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Post by bhee on Dec 1, 2011 17:25:51 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]I've heard that there will be a balancing patch fixing the FMG machine pistols this week. My question is, when will this patch be, and will the L86LSW's near non-existent recoil also be fixed?
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oh, also: You are my bro, bro.[/glow]
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 1, 2011 17:29:24 GMT -5
It will come out this week.
The L86's recoil will be fixed. It will now have no recoil.
In all seriousness, only IW knows when the patch comes out. Also, no one has been complaining about the L86, which has very obnoxious visual recoil anyway.
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Post by bhee on Dec 1, 2011 17:31:12 GMT -5
Oh, by the recoil I mean Thermal Sights + Grip
Seems to have no recoil at all with these attachments.[glow=red,2,300][/glow]
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 1, 2011 17:52:50 GMT -5
The L86 does in fact have very low recoil: look at psijaka's plots. The thermal removes the visual recoil and this is probably creating that effect.
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Post by niteshadex on Dec 1, 2011 19:57:43 GMT -5
Oh, by the recoil I mean Thermal Sights + Grip
Seems to have no recoil at all with these attachments.[glow=red,2,300][/glow] Thats all gunkick, the stat that makes your weapon seemingly bounce all over the screen. Not actual recoil.
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Post by asasa on Dec 1, 2011 22:21:24 GMT -5
It does effect the accuracy, so it's like a second type of recoil.
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Post by reader on Dec 1, 2011 22:33:43 GMT -5
Oh, by the recoil I mean Thermal Sights + Grip
Seems to have no recoil at all with these attachments.[glow=red,2,300][/glow] If you find that to be a problem, then we also have to fix EM bug with shotgun, and noobtube with CM 901. The two LMG benefit the most from this are still far from best weapons in the game, don't see why need to be patched.
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Post by asasa on Dec 1, 2011 23:12:54 GMT -5
Apparently the FMGs have been nerfed. The change is less than that of the 74u nerf in BO:
The hipfire reticule no longer shrinks from standing still
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Post by j1000 on Dec 2, 2011 11:55:48 GMT -5
The L86 does in fact have very low recoil: look at psijaka's plots. The thermal removes the visual recoil and this is probably creating that effect. My tests show a significant difference in real recoil when you add the thermal scope. Try it yourself.
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Post by kalar on Dec 2, 2011 12:02:28 GMT -5
Apparently the FMGs have been nerfed. The change is less than that of the 74u nerf in BO: The hipfire reticule no longer shrinks from standing still The hell? Really? That doesn't mean jack 99% of the time.
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Post by cmak on Dec 2, 2011 23:54:14 GMT -5
Apparently the FMGs have been nerfed. The change is less than that of the 74u nerf in BO: The hipfire reticule no longer shrinks from standing still Didn't the BO 74u nerf only affect the Grip attachment and nothing else?
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Post by asasa on Dec 3, 2011 0:47:39 GMT -5
That, and it dropped max damage from 40 to 35. The removal of 2HK headshots is a bigger deal than an effectively non existent hipfire nerf.
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Post by Ishbane on Dec 3, 2011 9:42:21 GMT -5
The only thing they'll ever fix is the akimbo FMG9s by increasing it's hipspread by a marginal amount (+5%) and about three months later the thermal+grip LSW rendering it unplayable.
Players will keep complaining about the other secondaries' akimbo hipspread which are still bullshit for weeks, but noone at IW / Activision will give a fuck since BlOps 2 will be on its way.
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Post by Evan950 on Dec 5, 2011 3:17:10 GMT -5
these patches can come out and you don't even know. its not black ops any more
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Post by adyc00l on Dec 5, 2011 7:29:02 GMT -5
True dat... has the 5 7? pistol been patched? It now has a normal reload right?
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Post by toysrme6v0 on Dec 5, 2011 16:39:21 GMT -5
patches require XBL and PSN certification. the standard leadtime is 2 weeks from submission on Microsoft's end, barring extreme developer pressure.
as always, robert bowling is an assdumb. 98% of everything he says is made up tihs. they cant patch the game without MS's consent. if they could, everything that required basic number changes would be done the day AFTER a programmer verified it.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 5, 2011 16:52:45 GMT -5
To the best of my knowledge, they can change some things via simple hot fixes, ex. playlists, weapon data, daily challenges.
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Post by Ishbane on Dec 5, 2011 18:59:45 GMT -5
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 5, 2011 19:07:37 GMT -5
The only thing they'll ever fix is the akimbo FMG9s by increasing it's hipspread by a marginal amount (+5%) and about three months later the thermal+grip LSW rendering it unplayable. Players will keep complaining about the other secondaries' akimbo hipspread which are still bulldoo-doo for weeks, but noone at IW / Activision will give a Foxtrot since BlOps 2 will be on its way. I have yet to be killed or have even SEEN someone with an L86. Even with the Thermal scope it's still average.
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Post by Evan950 on Dec 6, 2011 7:08:46 GMT -5
The only thing they'll ever fix is the akimbo FMG9s by increasing it's hipspread by a marginal amount (+5%) and about three months later the thermal+grip LSW rendering it unplayable. Players will keep complaining about the other secondaries' akimbo hipspread which are still bulldoo-doo for weeks, but noone at IW / Activision will give a Foxtrot since BlOps 2 will be on its way. I have yet to be killed or have even SEEN someone with an L86. Even with the Thermal scope it's still average. not only do you have to get the weapon to level 28, but its only 'Awesome and Overpowered' at long ranges, you cant just run around and use it like an AR, but i think the M4A1 with thermal does the same thing
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Post by dshunter on Dec 6, 2011 10:46:50 GMT -5
"Hot Fixes after TU6: Weapon Rebalancing (Dual FMG-9, Type-95, CM-901 Attachments)"
There's nothing left to do but sigh in resignation I guess. When I first read that the balancing hotfix was released, I didn't quite believe it, but apparently they did indeed release something which is more akin to a bad joke than a fix. During these first weeks of the game's lifecycle, it started to look like IW would actually care about the game and work on balancing stuff. And then they basically just mock the educated playerbase by saying the Akimbo MPs had been 'patched'. It's MW2 G18s all over again.
Edit: Yeah, I forgot to edit my post after I realized my error upon reading about it a different thread. Sorry about that.
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Post by volgon on Dec 6, 2011 16:02:22 GMT -5
Again, the weapon tweaks won't be applied until AFTER Title Update 6, IE. they aren't in the game yet.
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