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Post by Marvel4 on Aug 15, 2012 20:18:00 GMT -5
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Post by asasa on Aug 15, 2012 21:49:39 GMT -5
No one knows how refined the setup is.
If it really is "move x distance between scans" then yes, the complaints are warranted and this is retarded.
However, if its more like move from x radius within y time, and time is paused when reloading, using killstreaks, etc... then the system is good IMO.
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Post by volgon on Aug 15, 2012 22:16:15 GMT -5
I think Ghost will probably work as it says: if you're moving (ie using WASD/the left joystick) you won't show up on UAVs. If you're not moving, you will. I wouldn't expect any complex mechanics to be present, since for COD developers it always seems like the simpler, the better.
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Post by tooros on Aug 16, 2012 4:02:41 GMT -5
It'll be like 'space invaders' where little crouching figures wiggle side to side in dark corners.
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2012 7:48:28 GMT -5
This. Also the LSAT looks to have slightly more recoil and comparable damage output to the Type 25. Dual Bands is some kind of Thermal sight. |
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Post by prinsmp on Aug 16, 2012 8:01:46 GMT -5
does he not realize he broke the game? not only is this extremely easy to counter, but this is just going to annoy everyone who is sitting in a corner to reload or to heal or to do literally anything because "dammit they'll see me" Well maybe finally people are going to shoot those damm UAV out of the sky. If it was up to me, they could have nerfed it even more. Like ghost will only keep you of the radar while running. This would make it a real rushers perk, instead of a campers perk. Or they could have just make UAV's a 6 kill streak and have a full time ghost. This will make the ghost less attractive, because you will see less UAV's. |
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2012 8:25:08 GMT -5
I'd like to see UAVs at 375 points. That way they would require four kills in most situations, but you could get away with a 75pt assist as well.
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 16, 2012 9:20:31 GMT -5
Since UAVs only show enemies at scan intervals, I think how it will work is that if you're roughly in the same place as where you were at the last scan interval you'll show up. It shouldn't matter if you're not moving at the time it scans since players stop all the time to reload etc. and shouldn't be punished for it it they happen to be stationary when the scan passes over. Really, the idea should be to detect campers who sit in the same corner/in the same window/prone looking down the same hallway without moving. The more I think about it, the more it seems like the most logical and reasonable solution without making Ghost as nerfed as everyone thinks it's going to be. batman The UAV is 375 points. And consider this: it takes 8 kills in objectives modes just to get a UAV if you don't play the objective. |
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2012 9:35:28 GMT -5
Since UAVs only show enemies at scan intervals, I think how it will work is that if you're roughly in the same place as where you were at the last scan interval you'll show up. It shouldn't matter if you're not moving at the time it scans since players stop all the time to reload etc. and shouldn't be punished for it it they happen to be stationary when the scan passes over. Really, the idea should be to detect campers who sit in the same corner/in the same window/prone looking down the same hallway without moving. The more I think about it, the more it seems like the most logical and reasonable solution without making Ghost as nerfed as everyone thinks it's going to be. batman The UAV is 375 points. And consider this: it takes 8 kills in objectives modes just to get a UAV if you don't play the objective. Pretty sure the UAV is 325 currently. I'm completely okay with 8 kill UAVs in objective modes. |
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 16, 2012 9:51:48 GMT -5
UAV is at 375. RC-XD is at 325.  |
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2012 9:55:14 GMT -5
UAV is at 375. RC-XD is at 325. My mistake, sounds good to me though. |
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Post by cashmoves on Aug 16, 2012 9:57:35 GMT -5
i think the UAV could easily be balanced according to how many bullets it takes to shoot down. if a player can take down a UAV with a single magazine in an AR, then who cares about how ghost is gimped?
theres more than one way to skin a cat. time will tell.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 16, 2012 9:57:46 GMT -5
Buff the Lighting Strike, it's just Mortar Team -_-'
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2012 10:01:22 GMT -5
I demand a Care Package mimic.
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 16, 2012 10:06:22 GMT -5
i think the UAV could easily be balanced according to how many bullets it takes to shoot down. if a player can take down a UAV with a single magazine in an AR, then who cares about how ghost is gimped? theres more than one way to skin a cat. time will tell. Now that FMJ also increases damage to killstreaks (technically "vehicles" but I bet they don't differentiate), AA classes might be pretty effective at shooting down UAVs quickly. Also, starting with 30/90 ammo on most ARs means you can afford to use those shots on air support. |
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Post by cashmoves on Aug 16, 2012 10:08:45 GMT -5
i think the UAV could easily be balanced according to how many bullets it takes to shoot down. if a player can take down a UAV with a single magazine in an AR, then who cares about how ghost is gimped? theres more than one way to skin a cat. time will tell. Now that FMJ also increases damage to killstreaks (technically "vehicles" but I bet they don't differentiate), AA classes might be pretty effective at shooting down UAVs quickly. Also, starting with 30/90 ammo on most ARs means you can afford to use those shots on air support. is a quickdraw, extended mag, fmj assault rifle possible under the new pick 10 scheme? if so, then i think we just created our default assault class. can you imagine the acr in that role? jesus. and thats completely separate from any perk scheme... |
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2012 10:10:12 GMT -5
Now that FMJ also increases damage to killstreaks (technically "vehicles" but I bet they don't differentiate), AA classes might be pretty effective at shooting down UAVs quickly. Also, starting with 30/90 ammo on most ARs means you can afford to use those shots on air support. is a quickdraw, extended mag, fmj assault rifle possible under the new pick 10 scheme? if so, then i think we just created our default assault class. can you imagine the acr in that role? jesus. and thats completely separate from any perk scheme... I think so. |
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 16, 2012 10:29:10 GMT -5
As great as that sounds, think about all the different combinations you could also have ie. all the things you would have to give up. No silencer. No adjustable stock (Stalker). No Fast Mags (SoH). No Select Fire (a good number of ARs are burst by default). No grip.
That's what excites me about BOII. Instaed of a bunch of attachments of which only a handful are useful, almost EVERY attachment is useful and caters to different playstyles. No more seeing the Silenced Red Dot ACRs all the time, I guarantee there will be much more weapon diversity (or at least, attachment diversity).
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Post by cashmoves on Aug 16, 2012 10:57:54 GMT -5
As great as that sounds, think about all the different combinations you could also have ie. all the things you would have to give up. No silencer. No adjustable stock (Stalker). No Fast Mags (SoH). No Select Fire (a good number of ARs are burst by default). No grip. That's what excites me about BOII. Instaed of a bunch of attachments of which only a handful are useful, almost EVERY attachment is useful and caters to different playstyles. No more seeing the Silenced Red Dot ACRs all the time, I guarantee there will be much more weapon diversity (or at least, attachment diversity). youre probably right, but if thats the case, i will probably gravitate to the weapon that is most deadly with the least amount of modification... |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 16, 2012 15:07:37 GMT -5
Do score streaks reset?
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2012 15:09:30 GMT -5
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 16, 2012 15:25:19 GMT -5
Do they work like support kill streaks or assault kill streaks from MW3? |
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2012 15:29:17 GMT -5
Do they work like support kill streaks or assault kill streaks from MW3? I meant they reset when you die. Don't know if they reset if you complete your streak. |
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Post by Broadband on Aug 16, 2012 16:05:50 GMT -5
Why is the RC-XD still in the game? Why is the UAV still so easy to get?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 16, 2012 16:11:52 GMT -5
DJ Vahn said the UAV now adds to your score streak! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Post by Broadband on Aug 16, 2012 16:14:14 GMT -5
Because fu ck you, that's why. Really though, I don't see a problem with the RCXD, the UAV I feel will be a bit overused as usual, what with killstreaks generally being harder to get. What annoys me most is that the blackbird cannot be shot down so I mean it's effectively 30(45?) seconds of pure buttrape with no counter. Counter UAV perhaps? |
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Aug 16, 2012 16:17:54 GMT -5
Counter Spy Planes did counter the Blackbird in BO, so I'm fairly certain it'll do the same here.
EDIT: Damn, ninja'd. >:c
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Post by 8bitasplode on Aug 16, 2012 16:27:37 GMT -5
I only saw one of the LMGs so I figured i'd ask: 3arc made sure all the LMGs have high ammo as a default, right?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 16, 2012 16:29:32 GMT -5
Did anypony see that LMGee's spawn w/ 100 in mag and 200 carried =3?
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 16, 2012 16:35:30 GMT -5
Did anypony see that LMGee's spawn w/ 100 in mag and 200 carried =3? BIG AMMO THAT SOB! |
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