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Post by Marvel4 on Nov 26, 2012 23:23:06 GMT -5
See signature.
Movement speed is determined by the currently equipped weapon.
Most weapons have a sprint duration of 4 seconds. The Combat Knife has a sprint duration of 6 seconds and the Death Machine has a sprint duration of 3.2 seconds.
Lightweight: Increases movement speed by 7% Extreme Conditioning: Doubles sprint duration
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Post by ohbliveeun on Nov 26, 2012 23:23:46 GMT -5
You're sexy, you know that?
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Post by Dumien on Nov 26, 2012 23:35:02 GMT -5
Hah!
I knew the combat knife gave increased movement speed! even if it is minute...
dat sprint duration though.
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Post by asasa on Nov 26, 2012 23:43:58 GMT -5
Well, I'm never using a handgun again now that I see the fckin basic knife is faster.
And ROFLOFLOCTOPUS @ shotguns with stock.
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Nov 27, 2012 0:00:51 GMT -5
Good stuff. That is really weird about smgs with stock though.
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 27, 2012 0:19:42 GMT -5
something usefull
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Post by esupin on Nov 27, 2012 0:31:40 GMT -5
Wow, according to this, the stock on the SMG isn't that bad. WTF at the shotguns not getting SMG move speed when using the stock.
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 27, 2012 0:37:50 GMT -5
the main point i wanted to point out was that, no matter what speed your going, you will always go the same distance
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Post by Marvel4 on Nov 27, 2012 0:48:31 GMT -5
That's bullshit.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 27, 2012 0:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by asasa on Nov 27, 2012 1:44:40 GMT -5
seriously.....you have a faster speed for a longer time...idfk how this guy draws his conclusions. I think he is saying the, for example. AR 95% vs SMG 100% Would run the same distance before going to walking speed. Just that the SMG got their faster. However that doesnt look like the case in his video. 5% isnt going to be like WTF BBQ HOLY OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 27, 2012 1:53:51 GMT -5
...if two players travel at different speeds for the same amount of time, the one going faster is going to cover more distance. Obviously. Obvious to high school graduates, anyway.
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 27, 2012 1:54:25 GMT -5
well yeah, i wouldn't take his word for it, but its worth testing
also, is 7% increase is speed x107% or speed plus 7%
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Post by jackaltornmoons on Nov 27, 2012 2:05:38 GMT -5
...if two players travel at different speeds for the same amount of time, the one going faster is going to cover more distance. Obviously. Obvious to high school graduates, anyway. Get your fancy shmancy logic and maths outta here!
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 27, 2012 2:39:41 GMT -5
stock+lightweight stack or no?
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 27, 2012 2:55:17 GMT -5
Those arseholes with the combat knife and 6 perks are getting REALLY annoying. The knife is already broken as all-get-out, the combat knife does NOT need faster movement speed and longer sprint duration.
Aside from the shotguns (wtf) I like how the stock benefits all guns pretty much equally, unlike MW3 where it benefited AR's much more than SMGs. But seriously WHAT THE FLYING F*CK is with the shotguns??? They should have the exact same movement stats as SMGs!!!
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Post by Tyzerra on Nov 27, 2012 4:56:53 GMT -5
SMGs: 100% SMGs when ADS: 80% (Adjustable Stock: 102%) . . . . . Ballistic Knife: 102% Combat Knife: 102% LMAO, who thought that SMG's w/ Stock should move faster than their actual base 100% speed? That's hilarious. Also, I love seeing those numbers above 100%. It seems weird but makes sense really; instead of giving Knives 100% and the SMG's 99%, it's probably easier to just leave the SMG's at 100% and push the Knives above 100%.
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Post by Voice from the Basement on Nov 27, 2012 5:53:04 GMT -5
Well, 2% are not easy to be seen, and the bonus of that 2% increase is negligible. However, x1.5 max sprint duration is a good idea. I Am Hollywood, the first thing they should fix is unbelievable knife range and lag compensation system – then there'll be no problems with those Combat Knife whоres, they won't have a lot of advantages. Adjustable Stock on SMGs is still as useless as Stalker for them was in MW3. Shotguns want to laugh at you all, shotgun lovers (I'm not offending you), and ARs, comparing to MW3, got 2% "nerf" (that's such a big nerf). However, poor LMGs got some more penalties for using them. :(
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Post by mmacola on Nov 27, 2012 6:22:33 GMT -5
well yeah, i wouldn't take his word for it, but its worth testing also, is 7% increase is speed x107% or speed plus 7% multiply whatever previous value by 1.07 and that is the new speed.
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Post by Amirror on Nov 27, 2012 6:47:38 GMT -5
Does Lightweight stack with ADS Speed or Adjustable Stock?
LOL, shotguns are practically useless with Adjustable Stock. It's a waste of an attachment barely increasing ADS speed, while the SMGs get more speed ADS moving than normal movement. That's really unfair there.
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Nov 27, 2012 6:59:26 GMT -5
Now that we have this, can we fight the minimum movement speed for ghost to be active? Or is it specific to your loadout?
Also, do you move faster when you crouch ads an smg with stock? That would be funny lol.
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 27, 2012 7:25:24 GMT -5
lol i remember perk rumors that let you prone at 4x the normal speed that was gonna be so funny
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Post by mastermarth on Nov 27, 2012 8:56:45 GMT -5
Well then, with Stock not giving the full benefit for Shotguns, I guess that's one more point/slot that's free.
Thanks Marvel, you're awesome as always.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 27, 2012 8:59:56 GMT -5
Shotguns when ADS: 80% (Adjustable Stock: 88%) .........................................................................
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Post by bluespark on Nov 27, 2012 9:12:28 GMT -5
Those arseholes with the combat knife and 6 perks are getting REALLY annoying. The knife is already broken as all-get-out, the combat knife does NOT need faster movement speed and longer sprint duration. In earlier games, people complained because people could use an infinite sprint perk with their SMG and still knife-lunge people over several feet. Now you don't have the option of infinite sprinting and you need to have your knife out instead of a primary which leaves you defenseless in engagements at any kind of range. And that's still supposed to be broken? Well, they could make the Combat Knife cost a point, but that might actually make it underpowered. Believe me, I've had my issues with knifing in Call of Duty ever since CoD4. But I think Treyarch has found an excellent solution in BO2 (even though I think it's stupid how they switched the default knife lunge range to 'tiny' instead of completely doing away with it). Now, of course, if the maps weren't such a close quarters clusterf**k with corners everywhere... But we're been there already, no need beating a dead horse. Also, You're sexy, you know that?
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 27, 2012 9:20:58 GMT -5
Those arseholes with the combat knife and 6 perks are getting REALLY annoying. The knife is already broken as all-get-out, the combat knife does NOT need faster movement speed and longer sprint duration. In earlier games, people complained because people could use an infinite sprint perk with their SMG and still knife-lunge people over several feet. Now you don't have the option of infinite sprinting and you need to have your knife out instead of a primary which leaves you defenseless in engagements at any kind of range. And that's still supposed to be broken? Well, they could make the Combat Knife cost a point, but that might actually make it underpowered. Believe me, I've had my issues with knifing in Call of Duty ever since CoD4. But I think Treyarch has found an excellent solution in BO2 (even though I think it's stupid how they switched the default knife lunge range to 'tiny' instead of completely doing away with it). Now, of course, if the maps weren't such a close quarters clusterf**k with corners everywhere... But we're been there already, no need beating a dead horse. Also, You're sexy, you know that? ever since mw3, i hated the new knifes. i used the knife, when i ran out of options, (say im reloading and an enemy came out of nowhere, my instict is to knife. now in the new no lunge system, it fails to knife at any distance unless your directly infront of them or some other magical knife shit
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Post by hamburglar86 on Nov 27, 2012 9:47:27 GMT -5
Great post Marvel.
How is sprint duration affected by changing weapons? For example, if I have extreme conditioning and I sprint with a combat knife for 8 seconds and then switch to my shotty, how much additional sprint do I have? It seems that it could be no more (because extreme conditioning shottys sprint for 8 seconds), 2.67 seconds more (as this is 1/3 of the total sprint duration for shottys and 8 seconds is 2/3 of the total sprint for combat knife), or something even weirder that has no explanation.
Also, do we know if extreme conditioning increases the rate that you replenish your sprint duration after it is exhausted? My memory is that it didn't in the past, but my hope is that they changed this.
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Post by asasa on Nov 27, 2012 10:20:08 GMT -5
...if two players travel at different speeds for the same amount of time, the one going faster is going to cover more distance. Obviously. Obvious to high school graduates, anyway. ... obviously, he is saying that it is distance based rather than time based. While he's almost certainly wrong, you should get your shit straight
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Post by asasa on Nov 27, 2012 11:07:54 GMT -5
Well aids^3 was just trying to be an arsehole.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 27, 2012 11:11:09 GMT -5
Well aids^3 was just trying to be an arsehole. no u Sorry, the opportunity was just there...
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