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Post by Marvel4 on Nov 11, 2013 4:00:37 GMT -5
See signature.
Movement speed is determined by the currently equipped weapon.
Most weapons have a sprint duration of 4 seconds. The Combat Knife has a sprint duration of 7 seconds.
Agility: Increases movement speed by 7% Marathon: Unlimited sprint duration Stalker: ADS does not decrease movement speed
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Post by fpsdredd on Nov 11, 2013 5:04:55 GMT -5
this is great, thanks!
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Post by Voice from the Basement on Nov 11, 2013 8:46:57 GMT -5
Minor changes since MW3 times? Good. Thank you, Marvel.
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Post by -3055- on Nov 11, 2013 10:09:28 GMT -5
I was really hoping agility gave 10% increase like MW3's speed proficiency... still good though.
Also, I'm assuming sprint speed is still 1.5x movement speed? It's never been changed I don't think but it's still good to be sure.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 11, 2013 12:11:51 GMT -5
Would Stalker on an Marksmen Rifle, viable, or no?
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 11, 2013 13:13:54 GMT -5
I say Stalker is a must have for anyone trying to play aggressively that isn't using a pistol or SMG.
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Post by jipa on Nov 11, 2013 14:01:06 GMT -5
ARs: 90% really rustles my jimmies...
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Post by -3055- on Nov 11, 2013 15:01:02 GMT -5
It's no different than MW3. And as a stalker/adjustable stock user, I like MW3's system more.
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Post by Lexapro on Nov 11, 2013 15:07:04 GMT -5
So even less reason to use a secondary, you can use knife sprint to get to objectives faster without Marathon.
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Post by Marvel4 on Nov 11, 2013 15:08:45 GMT -5
The Combat Knife is a primary weapon.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Nov 11, 2013 15:15:48 GMT -5
I'm sure gon' miss 80% ADS movement for shotguns. ._.The Combat Knife is a primary weapon. Sure is an interesting way to incentivize pistol use, too.
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Post by Lexapro on Nov 11, 2013 15:22:41 GMT -5
The Combat Knife is a primary weapon. WAT. I am waiting to get the game, should be today. But what is in the secondary slot if I don't have a secondary equipped? I assumed it was the combat knife like in BO2.
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Post by -3055- on Nov 11, 2013 15:31:33 GMT -5
Nothing. You can't switch weapons.
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Post by seanbateman on Nov 11, 2013 17:58:40 GMT -5
I say Stalker is a must have for anyone trying to play aggressively that isn't using a pistol or SMG. That's not true at all.
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Post by qupie on Nov 11, 2013 18:30:58 GMT -5
I say Stalker is a must have for anyone trying to play aggressively that isn't using a pistol or SMG. That's not true at all. Youre stalking about shotguns i hope?
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Post by -3055- on Nov 11, 2013 19:26:29 GMT -5
Yeah, LMG/AR/DMRs are gimped as hell without stalker. Sniper rifles can get away with not using them.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 11, 2013 20:59:24 GMT -5
You can play ARs/DMRs without Stalker, you just have to be relatively conservative with your movement. It's not like QD, which is pretty much mandatory to function properly at all. Strafing is convenient, certainly, but aiming is required.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 11, 2013 21:19:48 GMT -5
You can play ARs/DMRs without Stalker, you just have to be relatively conservative with your movement. It's not like QD, which is pretty much mandatory to function properly at all. Strafing is convenient, certainly, but aiming is required. I don't feel like I absolutely need either for my SVU.
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Post by deston on Nov 11, 2013 23:19:03 GMT -5
Saying stalker is mandatory is nonsense, I play perfectly fine with assault rifles without ever using it, and strafing is not as big in cod as it might be in different games (certainly not ghosts). I do believe it's one of those things like slight of hand... If you're used to having it, it might be hard for you when it's suddenly not there. Also slight of hand is very nice and useful to have if you're an aggressive player, but not always a necessity.
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Nov 12, 2013 0:55:41 GMT -5
What's the movement speed of maniac?
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Post by volgon on Nov 12, 2013 3:22:55 GMT -5
What's the movement speed of maniac? FAST
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Post by qupie on Nov 12, 2013 3:45:38 GMT -5
You can play ARs/DMRs without Stalker, you just have to be relatively conservative with your movement. It's not like QD, which is pretty much mandatory to function properly at all. Strafing is convenient, certainly, but aiming is required. You are actually using Quickdraw over stalker? I tried quickdraw a few times and could not find enough points for it anymore once I got of the grid. I could manage perfectly fine without it. Didn't really notice a difference Once I got stalker, all hell broke loose, for my enemies.... My life just got allot easier. It is true though, that I already was a stock user in BO2, so it also just felt good for me. Once I take stalker off my AR, it is just not the same (in contradiction to quickdraw). Marksmen rifles do okay without stalker, as I am only using them on very large maps I dropped Of the Grid on all my classes but one, so I probably could find points to put quickdraw back on. But Hardline is so nice in these big maps (lots of assists on long range) and the whole reason I started dropping of the grid was because I had literally no playing room in my perk selection (dead silence, focus, ready up and fully loaded are all much needed perks to got those chopper gunners, and using quickdraw will fill it up completely) Nice point of view though, opens my eyes a little bit again. I will try quickdraw again, but until now, I was not really impressed.
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Post by pwn3d on Nov 12, 2013 7:52:36 GMT -5
I think both Stalker and Quickdraw are required for Assault Rifles and LMGs in this game . I hate to use 6points for that, but I have too.
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Post by inu on Nov 12, 2013 8:13:24 GMT -5
What's the movement speed of maniac? "You can't outrun a Maniac." -ominous tip on the loading screens. I'm guessing the Maniac is faster than anyone else on the ground. Knife out, agility, whatever; the Maniac is still faster. I believe the Maniac mantles over objects faster too -- which is something no perk allows you to do anymore -- but I might have just been imagining things the couple times I got Maniac. Also, I've heard that SMG users get no benefit from agility. Has this been more extensively tested? And since pistols, shotguns, and knives all have the same movement speed base as SMGs is there any word on whether they similarly do not benefit from agility?
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Nov 12, 2013 11:03:26 GMT -5
Marvel4 was saying agility does work with smgs.
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Post by Dumien on Nov 12, 2013 11:36:56 GMT -5
Do iron sights on MRs increase movement speed or is this a placebo?
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 12, 2013 12:14:39 GMT -5
If i am remembering correctly, the ADS on AR's in Ghosts is what? 0.30 seconds? I think that's up slightly from 25ms in BI2. So 30 milliseconds. So Quickdraw is doing what? shaving 15ms of of your ads animation?
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Post by qupie on Nov 12, 2013 12:51:10 GMT -5
33% reduction. Dont know if AR are 0.3
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Post by Voice from the Basement on Nov 12, 2013 13:28:33 GMT -5
BTW, what about stance miltipliers?
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Post by -3055- on Nov 12, 2013 14:47:39 GMT -5
ARs go from 0.3s to 0.2s with quickdraw.
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