thepythnator
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Post by thepythnator on Nov 14, 2014 23:36:38 GMT -5
If you need visuals, there you go. I had a really bad cold so you know. Never saw anything against the rules, so I'll post it and hope for the best. Go ahead and remove it if necessary though, no biggie Anyways, I think Lightweight is useless in AW. It's so bland and lacks any significant feature. The fact that everyone has unlimited sprint makes rushing already effective. The fact that there isn't any fall damage means that it does not come with that ability to make it useful. There's also Exo Overclock which gives you a bigger speed boost, and I don't think Lightweight is beneficial all the time (like when you are just roaming around the map) so that is more useful. Finally, Low Profile, Overcharged, and Flak Jacket are much better perks. If I had to use Lightweight I'd be inclined to use a wildcard to use another one of those perks, but I don't want to spend that extra point. Do any of you guys find Lightweight helpful at all? I know it's been a big perk and very useful in previous games but based on the gameplay and style of Advanced Warfare it's role is extremely limited if you ask me.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Nov 14, 2014 23:43:05 GMT -5
For certain, Lightweight can substitute as an 'infinite' version of Exo Overclock, whilst one could make use of another Exo Ability or even none altogether as said perk is being used.
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Post by Will on Nov 15, 2014 1:08:54 GMT -5
In the current state of the game, with EVERY SINGLE exo ability other than Overclock being absolutely 100% useless, we can view Overclock as costing 1 point (because you should never have a different ability equipped), versus Lightweight costing 2 points (since you'll need Perk 1 Greed).
So basically, it's 1 point for a situational 10% speed boost, versus 2 points for a permanent 7% speed boost.
For me personally, every single class has both Low Profile and Flak Jacket equipped, so there is no space for Lightweight. It certainly does provide a viable alternative to those two in the tier. But for my playstyle, Overclock gets the job done.
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Post by confuzzled on Nov 15, 2014 20:06:12 GMT -5
Low profile and lightweight on every class for me. Flack jacket is the obvious choice for lightweight though. Not running lowprofile seems pretty much stupid outside of early rounds of search yet people do show up on the uav still.... I like to always be fast, not for just 5 seconds.....flak jacket is an obvious choice for hardpoint/Dom however!
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Nov 15, 2014 20:35:49 GMT -5
Play War, all mobility perks are essential. At least how I play it
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 15, 2014 23:57:50 GMT -5
I find Lightweight so pointless that I have it on every class.
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Post by hard1ine on Nov 16, 2014 10:20:34 GMT -5
Anyone else besides me find Lightweight pointless? I've been asking the same question since Modern Warfare 2.
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Post by wwaa on Nov 16, 2014 10:44:29 GMT -5
Do any of you guys find Lightweight helpful at all? I know it's been a big perk and very useful in previous games but based on the gameplay and style of Advanced Warfare it's role is extremely limited if you ask me. any movement, and faster especially, is a challenge for your opponent. - to use Lightweight effectively you have to MOVE at all btw ... Lightweight was a must in 'Capture the Flag' games for example (if you capture flags at all : ) In 'Demolition' as spawns were far away from bombsites (if you care about bombs at all : ) etc etc ... Many times, 1-2 sec earlier on "position X" means you live he dies.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Nov 16, 2014 11:25:05 GMT -5
Lightweight seems like one of the best perks to me. Flak jacket is game mode dependent, generally I haven't found it useful, I mean you have the freakin' boost to get away from any grenade you feel like, there's no claymores, seems like a general lack of explosives so why bother? Low Profile and Blast Suppressor seem like the must have perks, but there's not enough useful stuff in the Pick 13 to where I don't double up with Lightweight on that perk 1 slot.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 16, 2014 11:50:51 GMT -5
Anyone else besides me find Lightweight pointless? I've been asking the same question since Modern Warfare 2. Raifu Waifu/SMGee sissy spotted.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 16, 2014 16:05:02 GMT -5
If you use Lightweight, you move faster. If you don't, you don't. If moving faster is good, then you should probably move faster.
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Post by -3055- on Nov 16, 2014 22:07:53 GMT -5
I only use shotguns so yeah, I'll take all of the movement speed I can get.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 0:14:26 GMT -5
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Post by sixone on Nov 17, 2014 6:48:21 GMT -5
LW on every class. I mainly use SMGs.
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Post by asasa on Nov 24, 2014 15:51:53 GMT -5
LW on every class. I mainly use SMGs. Lw on every class since BO1. Manly railguns and semi auto AR. Lw should be a static increase rather than a multiplier imo since it's not fair to heavy classes Lmg usage would probably jump if it were a static +7% By the way I'm mlg and better than these floor cleaners so my word is proof lightweight is good if you are pro like me
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Post by Pentaza on Nov 25, 2014 16:39:57 GMT -5
For those who've not really used lightweight and don't if it's worth it, I suggest putting it on all your classes for a while and get used to it. Then take it off. And unless your playstyle involves posting up the entire game, you'll want to put it straight back on.
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Post by Ironforce92 on Nov 25, 2014 16:56:31 GMT -5
The fastest way to be killed.
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Post by -3055- on Dec 1, 2014 17:47:49 GMT -5
LW on every class. I mainly use SMGs. Lw on every class since BO1. Manly railguns and semi auto AR. Lw should be a static increase rather than a multiplier imo since it's not fair to heavy classes Lmg usage would probably jump if it were a static +7% By the way I'm mlg and better than these floor cleaners so my word is proof lightweight is good if you are pro like me I use lightweight all the time too. I am also very MLG.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 1, 2014 18:26:54 GMT -5
Can confirm that 3055 is very MLG.
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Post by -3055- on Dec 1, 2014 18:48:41 GMT -5
Like perpetual doritos stained fingers level MLG.
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Post by fpsdredd on Dec 1, 2014 18:52:21 GMT -5
I have just recently dropped lightweight from my latest class build. It's good but you can get rid of it IF you need to.
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Post by confuzzled on Dec 1, 2014 19:39:54 GMT -5
Low profile has become the most useless and overrated perk to me but I play lots of dom and hardpoint.
1) You'll find me at B firing an unsuppressed weapon the whole game. If I run low profile then what is the point of not running a suppressor and blast suppressor (stealth now costing 3 points)?
2) The mini-map is in a bad spot. I can blast jump and fire all around people sometimes and they never turn around (e.g. when you flank two guys on a roof)...
3) This game is not really geared towards stealth...I can't hear people sneak up on me, even if I could they close the gap and move so fast its poinbtless.
I'm just going with the flow and running and gunning. That red dot? Yeah, that's me with a kf5 or an obsidian steed with extended mags, quickdraw and foregrip. Run towards the red light! I prefer to play like this:
I have my fair share of 25-25 games though but its fun and the action is relentless...
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Post by Will on Dec 2, 2014 3:05:07 GMT -5
Low profile has become the most useless and overrated perk to me but I play lots of dom and hardpoint. 1) You'll find me at B firing an unsuppressed weapon the whole game. If I run low profile then what is the point of not running a suppressor and blast suppressor (stealth now costing 3 points)? I would argue that Low Profile and Blast Suppressor are infinitely more valuable than a suppressor. When you are in the process of flanking your enemy, you are not firing your weapon. The entire purpose of flanking is to hit them unexpectedly - which you do so no problem without a suppressor. It could be argued that Blast Suppressor is also not needed - only if you do not make use of exo movements. But basically, when it comes to stealth: Low Profile >> Blast Suppressor >>>>>>> Weapon Suppressor
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 2, 2014 10:08:06 GMT -5
Low Profile is singly the most important perk in the game.
...Search and Destroy notwithstanding.
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Post by monkit on Dec 2, 2014 10:50:28 GMT -5
Low profile and lightweight are great. If you are a challenge whore then these two perks are the difference between 0 and 9 double kills in one momentum match.
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Post by sixone on Dec 2, 2014 14:09:42 GMT -5
The only perk that's a "must have" on all my classes is Peripherals. I just like the awareness it gives me, especially given the ground that can be covered. Friendlies, tangos, tags in Kill Confirmed, etc. It goes nicely with my only "must have" attachment, Parabolic Mic. An added bonus is the "no skulls" when I rush with a Suppressor, but I can't say the avg CoD player pays attention to skulls nearly as much as red dots.
As far as Lightweight goes, it can be the diffence between grabbing a tag and getting away safe vs. simply trading the grabbed tag for your own once u die. But when playing TDM and using an AR for example, I don't need it as much. The other Perk that I use a lot is Blast Suppressor, but again, it's more playstyle dependent as it's a must on my rush class cuz I boost everywhere and don't want to telegraph my movements. But if I'm kicking back with an HBRa3 in TDM, I don't need it.
I go back & forth with Low Profile. Seeing the pulse when you're swept by the UAV is great cuz you can use it to your advantage as tangos say "oooh, red dot!". But this is obviously more challenging than in previous CoDs cuz they can come from anywhere, and not just a couple of places. So sometimes its cool for them to be in a rush to get to the red dots and u catch them unaware.
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Post by asasa on Dec 3, 2014 13:15:21 GMT -5
I have just recently dropped lightweight from my latest class build. It's good but you can get rid of it IF you need to. This is not true. Do not listen to this false prophet of mlg. Once you go lightweight, you never go back. Unless stopping power. Err.. But seriously I find it very difficult to remove lightweight from classes. Only for a stealth build will I do it. And those are fairly useless for mlg pros such as myself.
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Post by -3055- on Dec 3, 2014 14:34:28 GMT -5
Wouldn't you want speed for stealth classes though? I feel like stealth camp classes kinda ruin the point of each other.
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Post by asasa on Dec 3, 2014 15:31:15 GMT -5
As an snd player, stealth is really only useful if you suck and are tactical loitering.. or if your team is shit AND the opponents are above average and the opponents have constant uav.
You should be able to flank loud with acceptable consistency.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 5, 2014 8:23:33 GMT -5
I find that the way it goes:
Flak Jacket & Danger close: useful on mode where you have to capture and hold points (HP, Dom, Momentum) Lightweight and Low Profile: Useful on Modes where the players become the objectives (TDM, SnD, SnR) Overcharged: dunno. don't use.
I like lightweight because that extra oomph helps me rush players.
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