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Post by Will on Jan 12, 2015 10:35:24 GMT -5
MW3... the most impeccable and amazing
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Post by asasa on Jan 12, 2015 10:40:00 GMT -5
If it weren't for the sbmm, I don't find it to be so bad. Definitely not as bad as MW3.
It's still downhill, but with reverse boosting, at least this cod is enjoyable, unlike the previous two.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jan 12, 2015 10:42:19 GMT -5
I just hope supply drops guns never return.
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Jan 12, 2015 10:45:27 GMT -5
... you are always in the open, the potential of being shot from every single angle or area. Areas aren't safe anymore. = problem with campers solved, in other words : ) Umm, no. I don't camp. I don't sit in one spot aimed at a particular location. Any kind of stopping in this game results in you getting 'bum rushed' (people just throwing themselves at you) until you are eventually killed. Nothing about tactical loitering. Every post I've seen you make on here is how amazing and how much you praise it. It sucks.
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Jan 12, 2015 10:50:08 GMT -5
MW3... the most impeccable and amazing Funny, you cut off the rest of my sentence. I said MW3 and BO2 are the most amazing CoD's there are, which I can say for the most part is true. These games are pretty balanced. Because AW is pretty terrible, my crew and I have taken some time to delve into the older CoD's. MW2 is fun, but there's a lot of tactical loitering for nukes, bad spawns, ridiculous stuff like OMA + Noob Tube. BO1 is pretty fun, but it's attack-of-the-clone type guns are pretty boring, and the game boils down to everyone using FAMAS or G11. MW3 and BO2 give the most balanced gameplay and overall in my opinion are the most enjoyable. Better than Ghosts, at least.
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Post by Will on Jan 12, 2015 10:51:53 GMT -5
If it weren't for the sbmm, I don't find it to be so bad. You'd prefer unbalanced matches versus close, exciting, fair games? How strange. Personally, I find it much more enjoyable and satisfying to win a tight game of domination 190-185, just squeaking by them in the last minute. Winning 250-0 is not my idea of fun.
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Jan 12, 2015 10:56:24 GMT -5
Funny, you cut off the rest of my sentence. I said MW3 and BO2 are the most amazing CoD's there are, which I can say for the most part is true. These games are pretty balanced. Because AW is pretty terrible, my crew and I have taken some time to delve into the older CoD's. MW2 is fun, but there's a lot of tactical loitering for nukes, bad spawns, ridiculous stuff like OMA + Skill Cannon. BO1 is pretty fun, but it's attack-of-the-clone type guns are pretty boring, and the game boils down to everyone using FAMAS or G11. MW3 and BO2 give the most balanced gameplay and overall in my opinion are the most enjoyable. Better than Ghosts, at least. Mw3 balanced :c There are more viable options in MW3 than I've seen in this game. AW seems to focus around with few classes that dominate the game. In MW3 I can do great with many more options. SPAS-12? Great. UMP? Great. CM901? Great. M4A1? Great. M16? Great. Running around with akimbro Skorpions? Great! You get the idea. There are a vast amount of gameplay options that allow MW3 to be very very fun. I can play a run n' gun style with a shotgun, or chill with a M60E4. Anything really works.
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Post by wwaa on Jan 12, 2015 10:59:33 GMT -5
I did not suggest it, just generally speaking. c a m p i n g was considered the most important problem, gemebraking, unacceptable, etc. Now it is solved and game sucks : ) Every post I've seen you make on here is how amazing and how much you praise it. It sucks. There must be some balance and I deliver it. Players who like AW just play and have no time to post here : )
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Jan 12, 2015 11:10:18 GMT -5
There are more viable options in MW3 than I've seen in this game. AW seems to focus around with few classes that dominate the game. In MW3 I can do great with many more options. SPAS-12? Great. UMP? Great. CM901? Great. M4A1? Great. M16? Great. Running around with akimbro Skorpions? Great! You get the idea. There are a vast amount of gameplay options that allow MW3 to be very very fun. I can play a run n' gun style with a shotgun, or chill with a M60E4. Anything really works. Spas12 sucks. Ump sucks. Cm9 sucks. M4a1 nah... Just cause aw has terrible balance doesnt mean that mw3 has good balance. Most guns in MW3 have their merits and definitely viable. The UMP didn't suck after the SMG buff. The CM901 was very good, although it was kind of a ACR cousin. SPAS? It's bad until you get damage, sure. Damage shotguns were amazing for the most part. I loved their feel. Know the flow of a map and game and you can dominate with a shotgun. So I wouldn't say the SPAS sucks, just very heavily dependent on skill. You'll find that most people on here find MW3 to be a great game overall.
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Post by Will on Jan 12, 2015 11:19:03 GMT -5
You'll find that most people on here find MW3 to be a great game overall. But those scabs killed Soap! Zampella would never have done such a thing.
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Post by fpsdredd on Jan 12, 2015 11:38:44 GMT -5
This game requires mass grinding for weapon balance. IF you can get passed that, the game is great. It is great because every one discounts so many of the guns and options.
Put in over 30 hours this weekend alone.
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Jan 12, 2015 11:55:57 GMT -5
Most guns in MW3 have their merits and definitely viable. The UMP didn't suck after the SMG buff. The CM901 was very good, although it was kind of a ACR cousin. SPAS? It's bad until you get damage, sure. Damage shotguns were amazing for the most part. I loved their feel. Know the flow of a map and game and you can dominate with a shotgun. So I wouldn't say the SPAS sucks, just very heavily dependent on skill. You'll find that most people on here find MW3 to be a great game overall. Shotguns good with damage :c And how is random hipspread of a shotgun skillbased? Unlucky: Hitmarker Lucky: Ohk They were lol. Striker and USAS were clearly the best, but if you wanted to show some skill and flair, use some of the pump or lever actions. If you really wanna show off use an AA-12. It was ok. I was playing earlier and went 64-4 with a Model 1887 and got a MOAB. They're pretty good if you know safe routes and areas.
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Post by Will on Jan 12, 2015 12:12:33 GMT -5
This game requires mass grinding for weapon balance. IF you can get passed that, the game is great. It is great because every one discounts so many of the guns and options. Put in over 30 hours this weekend alone. This is also my only complaint about AW. Having balance based around RNG loot crates is silly. They should have been cosmetic differences only. Everything else about AW I love. My #1 Call of Duty title.
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Post by cashmoves on Jan 12, 2015 12:20:28 GMT -5
exo boosting movement is the entire game. i see guys bunny hopping from across the map. its a gosh darn golly gee whiz joke. double jump, boost, double jump, strafe. for 10 minutes.
because movement is so incredibly altered, maps are altered. game is no longer played on the ground but in the air. think about this. where can you lie down in grass? think of all past cods in outdoor, pasture style maps. there are nooks and crannies, things to be explored, bushes, grass, fog, whatever. some past maps were gorgeous and had a real feel to them.
now think about AW maps. nothing of the kind. just flat dirt and low grass. nothing but hard surfaces. no 'texture' so to speak. not many intricate buildings or nooks and crannies. its literally just jumping around in the air. its god awful.
essentially, everything plays like nuketown now. which sucks ass. that is not cod.
and there are so many remnants of cod that no longer make sense. why the hell would you use infrared scope on these maps? they arent dark, foggy, murky, full of grass and cover. i mean, they are clear, open, and everything is midair the entire game. seriously? infrared scopes on these maps? its like finding an ancient artifact from civilization long gone. its not like we have snipers running around in sniper suits (sorry, cant remember the technical name for the suits that help you blend in). i mean, guys are boosting around in gold and purple shiny exosuits. yea, its really damn hard to see them!
cod is at the point in the series where designers no longer want the game to be 'cod' as we know it. advanced warfare is the first to really not be the same game. its a new game with artifacts of what cod once was.
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Post by cashmoves on Jan 12, 2015 14:11:23 GMT -5
BO1 is pretty fun, but it's attack-of-the-clone type guns are pretty boring, and the game boils down to everyone using FAMAS or G11. Mw3 balanced :c did they patch the M16 + ACOG because god damn son.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Jan 12, 2015 14:48:09 GMT -5
MW3... the most impeccable and amazing What? You didn't enjoy constantly seeing enemies spawn right before your very eyes?
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Post by asasa on Jan 12, 2015 16:12:12 GMT -5
If it weren't for the sbmm, I don't find it to be so bad. You'd prefer unbalanced matches versus close, exciting, fair games? How strange. Personally, I find it much more enjoyable and satisfying to win a tight game of domination 190-185, just squeaking by them in the last minute. Winning 250-0 is not my idea of fun. You keep saying that when you're playing against average players. It's a whole different game higher up bud.
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Post by noscreenname on Jan 12, 2015 17:25:13 GMT -5
Bad and hard to reach killstreaks are a good thing. GTFO
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Post by noscreenname on Jan 12, 2015 17:46:18 GMT -5
I'm not even referring to the most op streaks. But the ones in this game are on par with Ghosts imo. Not fun. Do you get a tingle down below when you get a uav? I don't.
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Post by Will on Jan 12, 2015 17:48:26 GMT -5
You'd prefer unbalanced matches versus close, exciting, fair games? How strange. Personally, I find it much more enjoyable and satisfying to win a tight game of domination 190-185, just squeaking by them in the last minute. Winning 250-0 is not my idea of fun. You keep saying that when you're playing against average players. It's a whole different game higher up bud. Again, your arguments are making no sense. If you really are on the god tier that you claim to be, then I still don't see what the problem is? Either you are having close, challenging games because you belong there, and thus this pisses you off because you would rather pubstomp some autism for nukes... Or you are getting destroyed, in which case your trueskill would lower and you would end up playing in matches more to your level. It doesn't matter what my skill level or your skill level is - if SBMM works, no matter how weak or strong it is, it will result in more close exciting games, and less stompfests. So the ONLY explanation for you hating it and wanting it removed is that you don't enjoy a fair fight. You want to play soccer against kids in wheelchairs.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Jan 12, 2015 17:50:45 GMT -5
I'm not even referring to the most op streaks. But the ones in this game are on par with Ghosts imo. Not fun. Do you get a tingle down below when you get a uav? I don't. Not even UAV with threat detection?
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Post by Will on Jan 12, 2015 17:53:07 GMT -5
I'm not even referring to the most op streaks. But the ones in this game are on par with Ghosts imo. Not fun. Do you get a tingle down below when you get a uav? I don't. Not even UAV with threat detection? UAV + threat detection + support + speed is one of the most powerful killstreaks in the franchise to date. It's easy to get (being support) and requires TWO perks to counter (low profile + cold blooded).
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Post by asasa on Jan 12, 2015 18:02:26 GMT -5
You keep saying that when you're playing against average players. It's a whole different game higher up bud. Again, your arguments are making no sense. If you really are on the god tier that you claim to be, then I still don't see what the problem is? Either you are having close, challenging games because you belong there, and thus this pisses you off because you would rather pubstomp some autism for nukes... Or you are getting destroyed, in which case your trueskill would lower and you would end up playing in matches more to your level. It doesn't matter what my skill level or your skill level is - if SBMM works, no matter how weak or strong it is, it will result in more close exciting games, and less stompfests. So the ONLY explanation for you hating it and wanting it removed is that you don't enjoy a fair fight. You want to play soccer against kids in wheelchairs. I just want the game to play as it always did. Good players and bad players together. "God tier" is not true. I can still do well against people, so its not like SBMM is bringing me down to shit tier, I just dont enjoy it. I liked to be able to snipe and do well. To use less than overpowered weapons and still do fine. Now I can't just shake my head at the people using obsididian bals, I have to use it myself to have a real chance. Less variety, less relaxing, more trying. Hence why I havent used my main account in a few days and instead been playing on the reverse boosted one. Also, SBMM doesn't really make games more fair, that's still down to the lobby split.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Jan 12, 2015 18:12:36 GMT -5
Not even UAV with threat detection? UAV + threat detection + support + speed is one of the most powerful killstreaks in the franchise to date. It's easy to get (being support) and requires TWO perks to counter (low profile + cold blooded). Let's instead make that one point spend, should you deal with said-God UAVs using an anti-air launcher. :3
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Post by Will on Jan 12, 2015 18:56:26 GMT -5
UAV + threat detection + support + speed is one of the most powerful killstreaks in the franchise to date. It's easy to get (being support) and requires TWO perks to counter (low profile + cold blooded). Let's instead make that one point spend, should you deal with said-God UAVs using an anti-air launcher. :3I'm at 9 days played or something and I have yet to have a single one of my UAVs shot down.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Jan 12, 2015 21:48:42 GMT -5
Well, that's on them, not you.
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Post by brcm on Jan 13, 2015 12:04:25 GMT -5
At this point I'm pretty much done with AW. I feel like it has a lower replay value for me because of the lack of fun I'm having with the weapons.
After a prestige or two I try to stay out of the AR/SMG categories and play more with shotguns, pistols, riot shield, LMG's, launchers, etc... and in this iteration those guns just aren't as fun. To be clear, I expect that a pistol class is going to lose ground to an AR class (I don't have unreasonable expectations), but in AW I feel like you just have to give up too much when not playing with a handful of weapons and the other guns just aren't fun to use.
Usually it helps your team when you have different teammates using different load-outs and strategies - but I don't feel that way about AW. There's no more variety for me.
I had fun for a month or so, the game has some unique qualities. But a few weeks ago I came to the realization that I was playing the game solely for the chance I'd get a certain gun or two from the supply drops.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Jan 13, 2015 12:49:36 GMT -5
Well, that's on them, not you. This Stinger is the worst the series has ever seen. ... Well, in regards to destroying streaks. It's obviously the best ever for anti-personnel duty. I miss the Strela.
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Post by noscreenname on Jan 13, 2015 14:47:59 GMT -5
Well, that's on them, not you. This Stinger is the worst the series has ever seen. ... Well, in regards to destroying streaks. It's obviously the best ever for anti-personnel duty. I miss the Strela. That AT4 flexibility tho. This always makes me lol:
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Post by fpsdredd on Jan 13, 2015 17:31:11 GMT -5
I just want the game to play as it always did. Good players and bad players together. "God tier" is not true. I can still do well against people, so its not like SBMM is bringing me down to shit tier, I just dont enjoy it. I liked to be able to snipe and do well. To use less than overpowered weapons and still do fine. Now I can't just shake my head at the people using obsididian bals, I have to use it myself to have a real chance. Less variety, less relaxing, more trying. Hence why I havent used my main account in a few days and instead been playing on the reverse boosted one. Also, SBMM doesn't really make games more fair, that's still down to the lobby split. I hear what you are saying and miss that myself sometimes. I try to avoid getting "old" by adapting to each new game and learning to enjoy them. Black ops 1 and 2 excluded (can't support those games on principle due to bullets not landing on cross hairs).
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