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Post by Vis on Mar 17, 2009 13:10:40 GMT -5
Sniping style? Stop being retarded and rationalise your views properly, please.
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Post by crazylad10 on Mar 17, 2009 13:23:49 GMT -5
well most people have different style of which they snipe, and don't call me retarded, cos it takes 1 to no1
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Post by Vis on Mar 17, 2009 15:53:53 GMT -5
True, that. Everyone uses either the right style or the wrong style.
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Post by crazylad10 on Mar 17, 2009 16:22:41 GMT -5
their is no right or wrong it wot style you have m8
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Post by imrlybord7 on Mar 17, 2009 17:03:55 GMT -5
@bord Recoil and sway shouldn't make a difference because let's face it you really shouldn't be scoped in more than 3 seconds. And it has 16 bullets total, unless you have a 16:1 KDR don't moan about it's ammo. Stupid post is stupid. I certainly do not have a 16:1 KDR, but when I have a good sniping game I can easily go on a 20+ kill streak. Now it may be true that the R700 isn't that disadvantaged when sniping at individual targets, but it is HORRIBLE for sniping multiple targets. 4 shots before reloading, longer steady time due to higher sway (which also makes aiming just slightly harder in general), high recoil so that you lose sight of other targets, and an ROF of 70 RPM is pretty slow. Without SP it is indisputably worse than the Drag and .50, and with SP it is indisputably worse than the .50 and usually worse than the M40. Now people seem to have some crazy idea that the snipers are balanced. They aren't. If you are going for a 1sk with SP use the Barrett. If you are going for a 1sk without SP use the Dragunov. If you are going for high ROF use the M21 (with or without SP). If you are playing 30 Health Mode use the M21, or in some special cases the Dragunov. That's all there is if you are only talking about combat effectiveness. I understand people like looks and sounds of certain guns, which is fine. But if you are just going for the best gun to use, what I just said is pretty much the word of god. There is no debate to be had. Let's pose a scenario. A robot is built (and mass produced) that is the best CoD player possible. Absolutely perfect in every way. Now let's have a game filled with them, all sniping. The ones using what I specified above, obviously depending on SP or no SP or 30 Health Mode, will do the best. This is due to something I like to refer to as a "skill ceiling." Basically, when deciding between two guns, I think, "If I was a perfect player, which would be better?" There are very few times I go against this logic, and when I do it is for the sole reason that I am not a perfect player. However, I am good enough that this way of thinking works in most circumstances. |
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Post by bpmachete on Mar 17, 2009 19:43:13 GMT -5
True, that. Everyone uses either the right style or the wrong style. Um once again no sense to what you are saying dude. There are many sniping styles and there isn't one more "right" than the other one. My sniping style for example is a silenced SMG, Overkill with a scoped sniper by my side. It works for me and and I have a great time playing like that.  |
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Post by bpmachete on Mar 17, 2009 19:50:27 GMT -5
If you are not using Stopping power use the R700. With Stopping Power M40 I used to think this way until I realized the R700 has an idle of 60, 1.5x that of the other snipers (which idle at 40). If you can deal with that increase in sway, more power to you (I can - I love me some R700 - feels so powerful to shoot... love the sound, etc...). But for simplicity in sniping, the Barett wins out... low idle and same killing power as the R700. I agree with you, but since the Post is about M40 vs. R700 that's what I would recommend. For some reason though, I can't bring myself to use the .50 Cal without SP. I can do it with the R700, just feels like If I hit and didn't kill it could be I was a bit off and scraped him... With the .50 I always think it's funny when I hit and don't kill, just doesn't make much sense... should have people dismembered every time like in WaW if you so much as scrape a guy with the .50. |
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Post by ssog on Mar 18, 2009 16:25:01 GMT -5
And you're a jerk. Well just for the sake of it. The R700 is NOT a bad weapon. Just learn to aim. A good sniper won't be scoped in more than the default hold breath time anyway. Just because someone does good with a gun doesn't make it a good gun. I've seen someone go 25-8 using nothing but an unsilenced M9 pistol on Softcore (with Double Tap and Eavesdropping, just to rub salt in the wound). Doesn't mean it's some sort of beast gun that we should all start using as our primary. The R700 will kill what you point it at. The point here is that any other sniper will do it better in every single respect. It's not like it fires rubber bullets or anything, it's just that it's the only gun in the entire game that is completely and totally outclassed by its peers in every single instance, every single respect, every single situation. Which makes it a bad gun. I will say one thing, though- it's perhaps the coolest gun to add camouflage to. So at least there's that. The Skorpion isn't a bad weapon; I got a 25 kill streak with it yesterday. The Skorpion really ISN'T a bad weapon. It's a niche weapon. It's as good as a Shotgun in CQB, and has far and away the least recoil of any gun in the game (making it the best choice to go full-auto from across the entire map). I mean, there's zero vertical recoil on it (and very, very little horizontal recoil to boot). For traditional playstyles, the short clip dooms it to neglect, but it definitely has things that it can do that no other gun can do. |
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