Nuketown secret (The Den Kirson Team)

[Den]

That's what it reads.
From the looks of it...

It may be that there are 28 specific mannequins that need to be popped or least 28 mannequins minimum placed in the map.

There is also a spawn array that places mannequins randomly.
Sometimes, that mannequin in front of the outdoor grill may not be there, or the mannequins watching TV may count two or three or this guy may be here that time but there the next time.

[aequinox]

Yeahhh, I changed my GT recently and forgot I put spaces in it. Thanks.

[skitrel]

Nov 12, 2010 8:58:06 GMT -5 Den said:

That's what it reads.
From the looks of it...

It may be that there are 28 specific mannequins that need to be popped or least 28 mannequins minimum placed in the map.

There is also a spawn array that places mannequins randomly.
Sometimes, that mannequin in front of the outdoor grill may not be there, or the mannequins watching TV may count two or three or this guy may be here that time but there the next time.

Ok Den, thanks for the info. It looks like they've gone out of their way to make this difficult to do, it can't be planned for easily in advance. It could be to make it very difficult to pull off in normal matchmaking. I'm leaning towards it prematurely triggering the nuke, but who knows.

EDIT: I just took 3 more runs through the map, I counted off 45 mannequins each time so I don't think it's a variable number, I've been unable to trigger them to respawn so far so either the claims that they respawn when they've all been shot are false or I'm missing one or two.

I don't think I'm missing any, I've flown around this level in theatre so much, I can't be missing anything.

[pooneega]

Man I'd love to help the bros out but I'm a PS3 guy.... so do the mannequins have individual spawns in random locations or are there different 'formations' that the mannequins line up in whenever u load up nuke town? Has there been any word on just how fast you have to pop the heads off in?

[skitrel]

The closest thing to an amount of time that's been mentioned was something like "It's going to take a highly organised full team of pros, they're going to have to do it fast, I mean in record time!"

In terms of mannequin spawning, the 6 on the bus, the second floor annoying one and the ones outside of map that you can see from center seem to always spawn. The rest seem to all be variable, I think they have fixed placements that are randomly decided.

There are also (apparently) two that spawn outside of player view, they're down the road on the right side, by the darkened window, you can only see their shadows. I discovered someone mention these 2 today. You could help by confirming these for me I can't get on right now.

EDIT: I can confirm this one, there are 2 inside the black reflective window, first house on the right as you look down the street that players can't get to. You have to stand near the manhole in order to see them through the window. If you go inside the building in theatre mode they're almost impossible to see as it's pitch black in there.

[PrestigWorlwide]

If you need an extra gun add: PrestigWorlwide

BTW, I'm: US/central

[skitrel]

Not a problem Born, I'll short list you as a sub for the likely probability that someone might not show up.

[wjang]

We still going on tonight at 6pm central/8pm eastern right?

[skitrel]

My attempt at going ahead with this early (Fri)12pmGMT 6PMCentral fell through, obviously because there wasn't enough notice. I haven't even had all the friend requests accepted yet from you guys =P

We're still going ahead with this as planned. Saturday evening/night. That's 12am(midnight) GMT+0 6PM Central. 8PM Eastern. Really really try not to flake out on this guys. If we can't put this together from a mature board like this I'm going to be really surprised.

With the people that weren't busy this evening I was able to do a bit of a map walkabout, pointing out the particularly obscure mannequins and what not.


I just want to say a few things on strategy here.

There are several possibilities that need to be considered when triggering this, particularly with the timer. We do not know whether the timer is triggered as soon as the match starts or as soon as the first mannequin's head is blown off.

Assuming it's as soon as the first mannequin's head is blown off my strategy is as follows.

Everyone will be using C4 and whatever they perceive as their most accurate weapon, you ALL need red dots to be certain here.
C4s give us 2 each which gives us some serious mannequin smashing power.

1 C4 blows the 6 on the bus, 2 C4 will be used upstairs and downstairs in each house, clearing them out. 2 more will also be used for three very obscure mannequins which I'll point out when we get in game. This leaves us with 17 more C4 to clear out mannequins in gardens garages and the center map.

All players will be present in center map with this strategy, this gives us 12 guns to shoot the remaining 6 mannequins out of map down the road and clear up any mannequins that we are unable to get with C4 in the center.

Using this strategy I believe we can achieve a time of under 5 seconds.


The alternative timer method is going to be much harder, if the timer to decapitate mannequins starts from the moment the game starts then we are just going to have to go absolutely crazy, marathon, lightweight, SMGs. Ultra fast map sweeping. We'll do this after the other attempts obviously, this will ensure everyone is very familiar with the map and knows which mannequins ALWAYs spawn. (bus x 6)(obscure x 3)(out of map x 8)



I have a few other worries regarding this, I don't know what the max team size is for private matches. This may be a problem if the secret can only be triggered by 1 team decapitating. This may lower the number of people we have to use in order to achieve success, it does not however mean you can't participate by being in game, it just means you won't be shooting anything. If anyone knows the max team size, it'd be good to know.

[mdnl]

My predictions are that it will just set off the nuke early, interested to find out all the same.

[IL TJ]

Invite "IL TJ" if you need more people

[idolize]

Add me, Idolism.

[skitrel]

Added you guys as potential subs.

I'm still missing friend accepts from the following, so we're still short right now. I didn't expect so many people here to be so flakey.

Panacheful
SensesFailNoVA
Tempest Tantrum
Zeebo

Thankfully we have extras.

PrestigWorlwide
IL TJ
Idolism

Leaving us only 1 short.

Please don't flake out tonight guys. Make sure you're online on time. I'm going to message you all right now as a reminder.
Subs, if the original people do turn up, please don't be offended or disappointed if you don't have a place, I do have to give priority to those that were here first.

Remember, tonight. 12am GMT+0 which is 6pm Central.

[mw0swedeking]

Sorry my internet died on me, but I've got it again so I will accept you now. Need to unlock c4 and a red dot though.

[skitrel]

That's cool, neither are an absolute necessity, we can work around it I think. But if you can get hold of them that would be great.

[Mr.Bob Loblaw]

I am out for 6pm central. I can make about 7pm if needed; I'll be on then to see. Store it on your file share if possible skitrel, I'd like to see the results asap! Godspeed.

Le Tornade

[aequinox]

I will be home and on in ~15 minutes, sorry. One problem after another has come up for me today so I apologize for the delay.

/Tempest Tantrum

[aequinox]

EDIT: No success, if anybody was wondering. We tried several times to no avail.

[skitrel]

Hey guys, so as aequinox said, the attempt was a failure, we tried several times and in total 14 people showed up, other people circulated in as some people had to leave due to time constraints.

Our first attempt, the C4 one, was indeed over with seconds. No success.

Our other attempts involved speed running the level as a full team, free for all and as two seperate teams. Also no success. Each of these varied from 15 to 30 seconds.

Afterwards the few of us that were left over had some fun playing public TD and even made a public attempt at the mannequins, also no success.

Our failure may be down to many possibilities, theories we have mostly involve lag though. What we discovered was that while some people were seeing heads shot off, others were seeing mannequins that still had their heads despite another person already decapitating them. The theory here is some sort of lag.

The other possibilities are that we might not be quick enough, or there are more incredibly obscure mannequins to discover.

Either way, I had fun with you guys and we should definitely keep at this, I'm sure there must be something to it. Hopefully we can get some official word from Treyarch. We had a couple of recorders in game so some videos of our attempts will be going up shortly, hopefully our failure might inspire someone else to succeed. I'm definitely looking forwards to seeing the video of our C4 attempt, that was over in less than 5 seconds as I predicted. Complete destruction.

[SheWolf]

have you considered the other possibility: it all is just a rumor and there is nothing to be done actually?
just a theory, maybe i'm wrong. are we absolutely certain that there is something?

[Deleted]

I'm leaning towards this just being an epic and masterful trolling exercise by Treyarch, it was fun trying though!

[pooneega]

..........somebody put up a video of the easter egg already. Not gonna spoil it for you, but I think that Treyarch shoulda did something cooler. For personal satisfaction I think you guys should keep at it. In the video nobody used C4 so maybe you actually have to literally shoot all the mannequins off, and they started shooting as soon as the match started. Good luck to the bros if yall still plan on pursuing.

[skitrel]

Yup, the video is up. Nextgentactics cracked it.

We did multiple attempts at doing it the same way they did, I guess lag is a major issue and something they didn't experience. Looks like most of them used m16s which I suppose would negate the lag problem as 3 bullets would be shot at each head guaranteeing at least 1 bullet would register hitting for team mates.

Our average was around 30 seconds though, it looks they achieved it in just under 20.

I'll post the video, since I'm sure nobody here is really bothered about having it spoiled, you don't have to watch it if you don't want to know.



We came close guys =/

EDIT: It looks like it doesn't have to be done by 1 team, 4 people seem to spawn on the opposite team in order to get the opposite house and gardens quickly. I'm very surprised that we didn't trigger it in our free for all attempts.

[zeebo]

Yeah, we totally did it faster in our FFA attempts. Oh well.

Now that I think of it, did any of us actually listen for audio differences? Haha. Cause I know I have my in-game music volume turned all the way down.

[aequinox]

%^&@. Just uploaded my video and came here to report and found their's. Ah well, good attempt. We tried.

Here's mine uploaded and commentated:


Gotta go edit it now to acknowledge the other video. shit.

And I'd disagree, we managed to do it in the free for all trials in definitely under 15 seconds. And we actually cleared each area in MAXIMUM 20 seconds, the next 20 seconds were spent shooting the same mannequins that someone else had already gotten.

Note; I wonder if they did it system link?

[skitrel]

Nice video Tempest, sorry you didn't get more recorded. I'm looking forwards to seeing Jim's videos, particularly because I wonder what his commentary might be like seeing as he spoke in third person in game.

[aequinox]

I've just got one other trial recorded, a free for all I believe. I can put that up too if you want.

[skitrel]

Sure : ) Watching the first one back was entertaining.

[kobefan012345]

********SPOILER************Well uh the "secret" is that the speakers at both spawns start playing that song that is played when you beat the game during the campaign. Rolling stones i believe?

[aequinox]

... we know.