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Post by crazylad10 on May 2, 2009 14:09:27 GMT -5
heya bros,
i'm just wonder which of the 2 games you all think is better
peace
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Post by crazylad10 on May 3, 2009 15:01:36 GMT -5
bros i forgot to say, after votin can you please leave a comment saying which game you choose and y
peave broz
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Post by ssog on May 5, 2009 1:08:23 GMT -5
CoD4, and because it's a better game.
More seriously, it's because CoD4 has much more variety of weapons. In WaW, a huge chunk of weapons are functionally identical. All of the bolts? Virtually identical. Type100 and Thompson? Virtually identical. SVT, Gewher, M1A1... virtually identical. Even the guns that are different wind up being pretty much the same- for instance, the difference between the MP40, the Type100, and the PPSh isn't as big as the difference between the MP5, Skorpion, and P90. The differences between the Drag, M40, Barrett, and M21 are far greater than the differences between the Garand and PTRS.
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Post by iKONIG on May 5, 2009 1:36:24 GMT -5
No weapon balance, No imporved spawning system, And a cheap rip off of CoD4. Nothing about it makes any better, Its like taking 1 step forward and 10 back . . .
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Post by robesh on May 17, 2009 11:37:47 GMT -5
CoD4.
In w@w, they ruined the weapon balance, and weapon variety. If w@w came out before CoD4, then CoD4 would be much more popular.
The MP40 is the utmost abomination of balance in the world. With stopping power it kills in 3 shots at sniper range, and it kill juggernaut in 2 at closer range. In the PC version it is a little more balanced, but on consoles, the game sucks.
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Post by Protolisk on May 18, 2009 4:39:45 GMT -5
Yeah too sum it up.
CoD4 = Wellmade W@W= Has no face. retarded
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Post by qupie on May 18, 2009 6:37:26 GMT -5
there ARE some improvements in 5 I think. Tanks (though I hate them) more perks (and more different perks are often used, and better balanced) you can heal each other which is nice you get more points from assists (+2 on a last stand steal was just horrible and much more reason for aggression within the team) flashbang and stuns didn't affect your friends, now that was nice and so, but also overpowered and ridicules. together with a mate you could run in and he trew a flash. if you both get 3 flash's and switch from room to room, that is really bad ass and really bulldoo-doo... you get points for killing dogs. often your team didn't do anything against that heli, and with dogs you have to, and you get points for it!! The levels are sometimes better and not to forget, the graphics are allot better IMO (on Xbox that is)
The only thing what was/is really better in cod4 is the weapon balance IMO, that is the problem with COD 5, otherwise it is better then 4 IMO
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Post by Tapap on May 24, 2009 16:34:33 GMT -5
i like world at war but the weapon balance sucks ass
cod4 has perfect balance besides the noob16
my vote is cod4
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Post by shadz on May 24, 2009 19:44:21 GMT -5
Neither game has weapon balance. On COD4, it's the AK47, AK74u, MP5 and M16.
The only other guns that even come close to competing with these are the M4 and P90.
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Post by robesh on May 30, 2009 23:56:40 GMT -5
Well in cod4, AR > SMG long range and SMG > AR at close range.
Sniper > all at extremely long range and all > sniper at close/mid range.
In cod5, MP40 > Rifle long range and MP40 > rifle close range.
If the sniper doesn't get off the first shot, MP40 > sniper.
At least cod4 has weapon roles :\
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Post by qupie on May 31, 2009 5:39:35 GMT -5
yeah you are right, the thing mostly screwing everything up is the MP 40. Otherwise it is pretty good balanced (but I think the rifles should reload faster to compete with the BIG mag of the SMG) maybe the garand should be 50/35 and that is about it. That would make the balance allot better.
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Post by c4rn1f3x on May 31, 2009 12:57:17 GMT -5
i totally think cod4 is better simply because of the weapon balance and the fact that it is a well designed fun game to play.
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Post by n1gh7 on Jun 1, 2009 0:13:13 GMT -5
CoD4. It has a better weapon balance. Maps are fine. The only thing that W@W has is that it give you a reason to prestige (other than prestige).
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Post by ssog on Jun 4, 2009 0:31:37 GMT -5
Neither game has weapon balance. On COD4, it's the AK47, AK74u, MP5 and M16. The only other guns that even come close to competing with these are the M4 and P90. That's 6 guns already that you've listed as worth using- I doubt WaW could scrounge up that many. I'd also argue that the RPD was every bit as powerful as any of the weapons you already listed, bringing the total up to 7. In addition, the Snipers were on more of an even footing compared to the other weapon types (i.e. better inter-class balance), and the snipers were more balanced compared to each other (where there were 4 snipers worth using in different situations, leading to better intra-class balance). Also, the Shotguns were worth a damn (in some maps, Shotguns wound up being the best guns on the block- Shipment, Vacant, and Bloc were my favorites). Basically, CoD4 had five different weapon classes, and all of them were relatively balanced against each other. CoD5 has 5 different weapon classes, and all of them are inferior to the SMGs. Another nice thing about CoD4 was that HC completely changed the landscape. The "Uber" guns in SC generally sucked in HC, and the sucky guns in SC were generally "uber" in HC. The M21 was generally considered the worst sniper in SC, but it's hands down the best in HC. The M16 reigns supreme in SC, but the G3 kicks its teeth in in HC. The RPD rules the school in SC, but the M249 lays down the law in HC. I also love the fact that CoD4 had really off-the-wall "niche" guns. For instance, the Skorpion is the most unique gun in either game (unless you count the flamethrower from WaW as a gun). It positively OWNS at super-close ranges (2-shot kill and RIDICULOUS full-auto RoF). It also rules the roost at super-long ranges, being the only full-auto gun with basically no idle and no recoil. On the other hand, it has essentially no clip size, leading to a really unique playing style unlike anything else. The G36c seems like the most pointless gun ever, but slap an ACOG on it and it's essentially a full-auto sniper with better hip accuracy. Best of all, there's the M249 SAW, which fools you into thinking it's an LMG... until you slap a grip on it and realize it's just an oversized P90 on steroids. The maps are also way, way better in CoD4. There's much more variety in terms of size and pace. I remain convinced that Crash is the single greatest map ever created- I've never met anyone who didn't like that map. It has something for every playstyle, all mixed together in a map small enough to keep the game moving but big enough to give you a chance to plan your tactics on a broad scale.
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Post by iKONIG on Jun 4, 2009 3:00:43 GMT -5
Honestly, I think that they shouldnt have rewards for prestige. The reason you prestige is for personal refrence/boredom and rank!
But putting rewards on it means that your not going to 'FINISH' the game untill you get to 10th.
They're some people in the world that just dont have that amount of on their hands.
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Post by ssog on Jun 5, 2009 1:13:52 GMT -5
They're some people in the world that just dont have that amount of on their hands. Then don't do it. If you don't prestige, then you haven't lost anything. If you really, really need some extra custom classes, then prestige twice. The first two prestiges net 2 class slots, the next 8 combined only give you 3 more.
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Post by iKONIG on Jun 5, 2009 1:57:18 GMT -5
meh, no rewards is better.
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Post by qupie on Jun 5, 2009 5:03:34 GMT -5
It sure is not. Why shouldn't be there be an award for putting so much effort in a game? It is the same as you unlock better weapons as you get a higher rank.And it sure isn't a that big advantage, it is just nice to have, thats it. I think it is just REALLY great and maybe the best difference they made in WAW.
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Post by iKONIG on Jun 5, 2009 8:23:38 GMT -5
because you prestige for personal refrences, with waw, you prestige becoz you get another creat-a-class slot . . .
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Post by ssog on Jun 5, 2009 23:44:03 GMT -5
because you prestige for personal refrences, with waw, you prestige becoz you get another creat-a-class slot . . . So? Before, prestiging was fun for maybe 50% of the population (just making up numbers at random here). Now, prestiging is *STILL EQUALLY FUN* to that 25% (since they get just as much enjoyment out of the challenge of starting over), if not more fun (since they get the additional class slot). Prestiging is also more fun to EVERYONE ELSE, as well. Basically, adding rewards takes something that's fun for a subset of the population... and makes it more fun for that subset, while simultaneously making it fun for the subset who previously thought it wasn't. I mean, that'd be like getting a brownie for learning stuff in school. I personally think that learning is fun. I think it's more fun when I get a brownie. My brother thinks that learning is not fun. He thinks its more fun when he gets a brownie, though. So we both think that a task is made more enjoyable by the addition of rewards. How on earth is that a bad thing?
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Post by ZeroKelvin^ on Jun 6, 2009 1:57:56 GMT -5
there aren't enough class slots, those extra 5 should be unlocked by default which would also help weapon variety
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Post by iKONIG on Jun 9, 2009 1:27:26 GMT -5
That lil symbol next to your name IS the brownie, adding creat-a-slots is another one. (its bad for your health)
I think treyarch had forgotten what prestige actually ment. 'Prestige, trade in all your accomplishments for a slice of prestige, at a price'
which means, prestige to get a extra symbol, or dont prestige and get weapon camos!
well, since treyarch removed camos, then prestige. But CoD4 has cage match, (HSx3). which basically makes camos meaningless!
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im confused.
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