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Post by robesh on Aug 16, 2009 16:06:02 GMT -5
Which pistol do YOU like more?
The USP seems to be the better contender when you don't have a suppressor. The 1911 might be more effective when they are both suppressed.
I'll go through the pro's and con's of each gun.
USP Pro's -Larger magazine capacity (12 rounds). -Greater range (Unsuppressed has 100 more range in both max-damage and min-damage values, while suppressed has 150 more range in the min-damage value).
Con's -More recoil. -Less accurate hip-fire.
M1911 Pro's -Hip-fire is more accurate. -Less recoil.
Con's -Less range. -Smaller magazine capacity.
When unsuppressed the USP is dominant, but when they have a suppressor, the 1911 is similar in effectiveness, but it still doesn't catch up to the USP in terms of range.
The USP and 1911 have the same hip-fire accuracy when standing still, but the 1911 is more accurate when moving.
I think if they wanted to balance the game, they would switch all of the USP and 1911's stats, except the magazine capacity.
If I had to go with one, I would chose the USP. Not only does it have 50% more ammo, but it has greater range, which is important. The con's of the USP aren't very detracting, either, because the recoil isn't terrible (in my opinion,) and I almost never hip-fire with pistols, unless it is a Desert Eagle.
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Post by noscreenname on Aug 16, 2009 16:30:46 GMT -5
USP is better just because of the slight increase in clip size. M1911 isn't even and option in my book. I don't think many people hip fire with the pistol anyway, unless maybe a DE. The argument should be between the M9 with its bullet sharing and large clip versus the USP with its slightly longer range.
On a side note, I have become a scavenger of secondary weapons off of dead enemies so I rarely even keep my pistol for more than a minute.
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Post by scorp on Aug 16, 2009 16:43:39 GMT -5
I don't think it's just me, as my friend and others have said the same:
It's a lot easier to fire the M1911 faster then the USP.
I like the M1911 better as it's more original, I can fire it faster, better hip-fire, and has a uber awesome reload.
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Post by robesh on Aug 16, 2009 16:52:12 GMT -5
I agree, it is easier to shoot guns with small magazines faster.
But, do the extra 4 bullets matter? The Desert Eagle is very popular and effective, but it has the smallest magazine capacity, being 7 rounds. If you generally kill with the first 4, then the extra ammo wouldn't matter. I still like the USP more for it's range properties.
The way I see it, the best unsuppressed pistol is the Deagle, while the best suppressed pistol is the USP. On a side note, the M1911 with a suppressor has the same damage/range as an unsuppressed M9.
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Post by ssog on Aug 17, 2009 18:22:27 GMT -5
I agree with Robesh. If you want an silenced pistol, use the USP. If you want an unsilenced pistol, use the DEagle. If your primary is an MP5, use the M9. If you want the worst pistol possible, use the M1911.
I used to use the silenced USP a lot, until I realized that I didn't really care if my pistol was silenced or not. I mean, either my primary weapon was silenced (in which case, why use the pistol?) or else my primary weapon was unsilenced (in which case I likely didn't have UAV Jammer, so the silenced pistol was only a half-measure). The only time I use the silenced USP anymore is on a Dragunov/UAV Jammer class (and even then, I usually prefer the DEagle). In hardcore, the DEagle is better than many primary weapons. DEagle + Bando, Slight of Hand, and Steady Aim is a seriously legit class, regardless of your primary weapon (basically just a G3 that trades an optional silencer and a smaller clip for ridiculous hip-fire accuracy and either an optional Ghillie Suit or SMG movement speed).
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Post by imrlybord7 on Aug 17, 2009 22:09:48 GMT -5
How is it easier to fire a small magazine faster? That makes no sense. It's all in the finger.
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Post by iKONIG on Aug 18, 2009 0:55:47 GMT -5
its the sound i guess, thats why i like the deagle
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Post by imrlybord7 on Aug 18, 2009 13:27:13 GMT -5
USP and M1911 make the same sound when fired.
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Post by robesh on Aug 22, 2009 0:41:12 GMT -5
How is it easier to fire a small magazine faster? That makes no sense. It's all in the finger. It's all psychological.
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Post by iKONIG on Aug 22, 2009 6:40:31 GMT -5
Hmmm, dont know what to say about that . . .
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Post by robesh on Aug 25, 2009 0:13:00 GMT -5
Then don't say anything at all.
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Post by iKONIG on Aug 27, 2009 22:39:30 GMT -5
Robesh is a sexy beast >
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Post by robesh on Aug 31, 2009 16:20:54 GMT -5
You got me there
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