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Nov 25, 2009 5:39:47 GMT -5
Post by tural on Nov 25, 2009 5:39:47 GMT -5
I was wondering if there is an extractable file for the Accolades Table. It's referenced in 'maps/mp/_awards.gsc' as"mp/awardTable.csv"
In particular, I'm interested in locating any information concerning the accolade "Warming Up" - "Just getting started." I notice an award in the _awards.gsc being given for getting no other accolades in a private match, but I'm not sure if that's it and I've been unsuccessful in completing a private match without acquiring any accolades, so I'm interested in the hard data if it's available.
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Nov 25, 2009 6:02:56 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 25, 2009 6:02:56 GMT -5
well i can help you with the earning no accolades thing
make a private match, change the settings to like 1minute gameplay and make it free for all. make sure the other person doesnt shoot and you dont shoot, then just run around doing nothing but stay in the same area and same altitude for that minute, dont prone or crouch
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Nov 25, 2009 6:22:41 GMT -5
Post by tural on Nov 25, 2009 6:22:41 GMT -5
If a player gets no kills and no deaths, or no kills and any deaths, they will receive the AFK or Participant accolades, respectively. Ending a private game with 0 kills will still earn you accolades.
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Nov 25, 2009 7:05:10 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 25, 2009 7:05:10 GMT -5
hm. ive had a few no accolade matches before, but that was because i was in the game for 3seconds and it ended
you could try killing each other once, both by stomach kills and with the same weapon
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Nov 25, 2009 7:34:45 GMT -5
Post by tural on Nov 25, 2009 7:34:45 GMT -5
The "noawards" accolade can only be obtained in a private match, joining the end of a matchmaking round, or joining any matchmaking round, cannot give it to you. This also applies to the AFK and Participant accolades, among others. I did note this in my post, that it is only obtainable in a private match.
I believe that if two players have the same thing, they both receive the accolade. This is based on how if two people plant a bomb in S&D, both will get the 'Most Bombs Planted' accolade, assuming nobody had higher than 1 plant. In that case, I'd guess both players receive a "Most [weapon type] kills" accolade. I tried many scenarios and spent quite a bit of time trying to set it up to where I received no accolades, but was unsuccessful. It's not as simple as it sounds.
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Nov 25, 2009 7:47:43 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 25, 2009 7:47:43 GMT -5
ok so get 3 people in a private match
you kill only once and die only once
and the other two just keep killing each other
or
get 2 people to start a FFA private match and when theres 15seconds left get them to invite you
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Nov 25, 2009 8:00:10 GMT -5
Post by tural on Nov 25, 2009 8:00:10 GMT -5
You'd have to make sure you don't sit still too long, but don't run more than them. Also have to make sure you don't live the longest, or the shortest. You can't skip or watch the most killcams. Make sure you get killed from behind (So you don't get 'No deaths from behind'), but make sure someone else has more deaths from behind (So you don't get the private-only 'Most deaths from behind'). Make sure someone has less deaths than you (So you don't get 'Least deaths'). Make sure you're not closer to enemies more than other players. Probably more I'm overlooking.
Lots of things to look out for. It's going to be difficult to just go "Alright, I'm going to get no accolades" and do it successfully, given that you can get an accolade from virtually every action in a game.
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Nov 25, 2009 8:05:46 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 25, 2009 8:05:46 GMT -5
wow. we should start a list of things to do and not to do. its probably the most hardest accolade to get lol
but i think my 2nd option (get 2 people to start a FFA private match and when theres 15seconds left get them to invite you) will work, its gotten me a few no accolades online, i dont see why it wouldnt work on private, just make sure you dont actually get into the game, but your still choosing your weapons class
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Nov 25, 2009 8:06:57 GMT -5
Post by tural on Nov 25, 2009 8:06:57 GMT -5
Wouldn't you still get "AFK", for no kills/no deaths, by doing that? AFK is private-only, so that's why you haven't received it in a matchmaking game.
Also, this mystery could require you to play an entire match, but I'm not sure if it does.
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Nov 25, 2009 8:15:44 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 25, 2009 8:15:44 GMT -5
hmm.... its impossible!
the only thing to do is to make some massive massive list i guess.
theres gotta be something they dont award you for.. actually i guess there isnt because the only thing that wouldnt give you an accolade, it awards you for doing that too :s if that made sense
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Nov 25, 2009 8:43:44 GMT -5
Post by tural on Nov 25, 2009 8:43:44 GMT -5
I'm hoping the mp/awardTable.csv file is extractable, as that would save the trouble of testing manually, being able to see exactly what Warming Up is for. =)
Of course, if it is the 'noawards' accolade, then people can figure out ways to test it. =p
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Nov 26, 2009 5:51:19 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 26, 2009 5:51:19 GMT -5
true, time shall tell  |
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Nov 26, 2009 6:26:36 GMT -5
Post by tural on Nov 26, 2009 6:26:36 GMT -5
Also wondering about two other files that may be of interest.
mp/camoTable.csv - To see if there is a gold camo shader, although it is my understanding that there isn't.
mp/allChallengesTable.csv - To have a look at what titles/emblems are associated with what challenges.
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Nov 26, 2009 7:44:10 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 26, 2009 7:44:10 GMT -5
i wish i had the PC files so i could look around. try using a hex editor to open them
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Nov 26, 2009 15:11:50 GMT -5
Post by Neejoh on Nov 26, 2009 15:11:50 GMT -5
Anyone got a mirror for mw2_gsc_rip_1.1.zip so I can have a look?
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Nov 28, 2009 8:03:23 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 28, 2009 8:03:23 GMT -5
could someone reupload the original file? its not working anymore
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Nov 28, 2009 17:01:31 GMT -5
Post by Den on Nov 28, 2009 17:01:31 GMT -5
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Nov 28, 2009 22:07:27 GMT -5
Post by playn on Nov 28, 2009 22:07:27 GMT -5
thanks!
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Dec 1, 2009 18:54:52 GMT -5
Post by ice597 on Dec 1, 2009 18:54:52 GMT -5
while you are at it can you check out how to earn hijacker(most kills stolen) as well?
right beside warming up i think
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Dec 1, 2009 19:08:28 GMT -5
Post by Den on Dec 1, 2009 19:08:28 GMT -5
Hijacker and Warming Up supposedly can only be acquired in a Private Match.
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Dec 1, 2009 20:36:59 GMT -5
Post by ice597 on Dec 1, 2009 20:36:59 GMT -5
any idea on how? or you still trying to figure it out?
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Dec 3, 2009 11:54:38 GMT -5
Post by Neejoh on Dec 3, 2009 11:54:38 GMT -5
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Post by kcpwnsgman on Dec 5, 2009 6:28:04 GMT -5
accolades, not titles or emblems, although I didn't know there's a hijacker accolade |
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Dec 8, 2009 14:12:15 GMT -5
Post by gagarin on Dec 8, 2009 14:12:15 GMT -5
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Dec 8, 2009 14:34:08 GMT -5
Post by cptmacmillan on Dec 8, 2009 14:34:08 GMT -5
It's ridiculous that they are doing balance changes without saying anything at all about it. I could understand bug fixes, but nerfing a perk 33% and not saying anything about it is wrong.
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Post by mw0swedeking on Dec 9, 2009 0:13:30 GMT -5
Why'd they nerf lightweight? It seems like it's still generally less than SP or Cold blooded...
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Post by cptmacmillan on Dec 9, 2009 0:24:28 GMT -5
Indeed. There was absolutely nothing wrong with LW as it was. Maybe that's why they don't want to tell us about it; they know we'd complain!
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Post by iKONIG on Dec 9, 2009 1:01:51 GMT -5
Its funny how they nerf lightweight but don't even touch the Models?
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Post by dog on Dec 9, 2009 1:53:44 GMT -5
EDIT: nvm
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Dec 13, 2009 15:02:20 GMT -5
Post by mandalorian72 on Dec 13, 2009 15:02:20 GMT -5
Hey Den,
Are you able to tell which font was used in the Call Signs from the game files? I saw that you had uploaded all of the Call Sign images, but the text is missing. I was going to typeset them all, but cannot figure out what font was used.
I went through pretty much all of my fonts and did not find a match. The appearance of the Q, q, y, g & 7 have pretty much eliminated the chance of a match for all of my fonts. It is clear that they do not use serifs, but it is quite difficult to get a match just by appearance.
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