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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Feb 2, 2012 21:37:02 GMT -5
I haven't unlocked the G3 yet, but I'm getting close and I was getting all excited as the G3 has always be such a badass weapon to me. Then I read on the BF3 wiki that in a patch both the maximum and minimum damage were both nerfed? Den's chart says it's normally 30-20. What was it before?
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Post by saddaminsane on Feb 2, 2012 23:02:23 GMT -5
it used to be 34- something, allowing 3 hit kills up close. The SCAR-H also had 34 damage up close, but too many people complained and the larger caliber rifles got nerfed
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Feb 2, 2012 23:30:27 GMT -5
ahhh.... i started playing after the patch, no wonder the SCAR-H felt so useless lol
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Post by tiesieman on Feb 3, 2012 13:05:28 GMT -5
The G3 is getting its 34 damage back though. Too bad the SCAR-H is still meh
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Post by didjeridu on Feb 3, 2012 13:34:03 GMT -5
Pretty sure the G3 was always 20 min. 25 min would be...sexy to say the least. Now that I think about it, the G3 was 25-20 in BC2. BF3 G3 is pathetic in comparison, considering right now they're functionally the same, yet the BC2 G3 did that damage versus all the weaker BC2 weapons. The SCAR makes me sad. If they're going to leave it neutered, at least lower the recoil or give it a bigger magazine/extended option.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Feb 3, 2012 15:30:35 GMT -5
The G3 is getting its 34 damage back though. Too bad the SCAR-H is still meh Really? Where did you hear that? The SCAR should too... i mean 1 less bullet to kill at range is sorta nice, but that's hardly worth the smaller mag, higher recoil, and lower RoF. I'm just gonna stick to the many other SMGs that kill in the same number of bullets with a larger magazine and faster RoF/lower recoil.
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Post by phale on Feb 3, 2012 21:51:05 GMT -5
i mean 1 less bullet to kill at range is sorta nice, but that's hardly worth the smaller mag, higher recoil, and lower RoF. I'm just gonna stick to the many other SMGs that kill in the same number of bullets with a larger magazine and faster RoF/lower recoil. Not quite true - the SCAR and G3A3 still kill in one less bullet at all ranges except point blank. They're still pretty good weapons, they just require a little bit of distance and a little more skill in recoil control. Proof: www.symthic.com/?s=bf3&sb=timetokill&pt=btk
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Post by undoubledzim on Feb 4, 2012 11:59:32 GMT -5
g3 is supposed to be getting its damage back according to posts made by the devs months ago
unless they fix the scar though its pretty meh compared to the rest of the weapons
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Post by battleaxerx on Feb 4, 2012 15:34:06 GMT -5
This whole game is a mess. USAS frags is just plain OP. Glitches pour out of this game like a fucking waterfall... and apparently EA doesn't care. 1 patch since release. I think this is my last multiplayer game and no more xblive for me, even though I've only spent like 5 dollars on it and I've played an insane amount due to friends leaving their xbox here and 1 month for a dollar, and a friendly giving person with a code that I shouldn't have accepted, but was addicted to cod.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Feb 4, 2012 19:52:48 GMT -5
This whole game is a mess. USAS frags is just plain OP. Glitches pour out of this game like a Foxtrotting waterfall... and apparently EA doesn't care. 1 patch since release. I think this is my last multiplayer game and no more xblive for me, even though I've only spent like 5 dollars on it and I've played an insane amount due to friends leaving their xbox here and 1 month for a dollar, and a friendly giving person with a code that I shouldn't have accepted, but was addicted to cod. Yeah, there does seem to be a lot of WTF stuff going on with BF3 right now, glitch-wise, balance-wise, etc. USAS frags is retarded OP, and so is the FAMAS. A lot of useless things too that will never get used and are just wasting space right now. BF3 has had 1 patch. MW3 has had like 9 patches(on Xbox). I honestly expected it to be the opposite way around considering IW's and DICE's track records.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Feb 4, 2012 19:55:12 GMT -5
i mean 1 less bullet to kill at range is sorta nice, but that's hardly worth the smaller mag, higher recoil, and lower RoF. I'm just gonna stick to the many other SMGs that kill in the same number of bullets with a larger magazine and faster RoF/lower recoil. Not quite true - the SCAR and G3A3 still kill in one less bullet at all ranges except point blank. They're still pretty good weapons, they just require a little bit of distance and a little more skill in recoil control. Proof: www.symthic.com/?s=bf3&sb=timetokill&pt=btkYes I know they kill in 1 less bullet at long range. But that alone isn't nearly worth the small magazine, slow RoF, and high recoil. And skill is a non-factor. At the end of the day there's no good reason to use the SCAR-H over something like the M4/AKS-74u/G53
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Post by saddaminsane on Feb 4, 2012 20:44:10 GMT -5
honestly, usas frag isn't that bad. They nerfed it enough so that it's about as good as a carbine at close range and still has long range factor- getting killed by it is just annoying though. It's probably placebo. A lot of the other guns still need some rebalancing though, the high ROF assault rifles are way too comfortable to use, and you don't get the "getting hit" response fast enough so it feels like you get insta killed by many guns. Game needs a lot more work, but it's still amazingly fun with friends in it's current state, let's just hope DICE is working hard right now
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Post by didjeridu on Feb 5, 2012 17:31:47 GMT -5
If they get this one patch right, waiting isn't so bad. I don't have a lot of faith in that happening, but hey. The whole "I'm getting shot" part of the game is the biggest thing that needs fixing. That, and random "BAD LUCK, sucks to be you!" and taking insane damage from touching a rock or falling one foot. Although I will say that the wait for damage fixing is killing me. I want to use the M240 and G3 so bad, but I refuse to go back to them until they're fixed.
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Post by fazzmania on Feb 5, 2012 20:44:12 GMT -5
USAS frags is irritating and not fun to play against but it isn't really OP.
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