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Post by Tapap on Nov 21, 2009 22:46:22 GMT -5
Which quality do you think is better in a rifle?
Recoil Power Rat of Fire Clip Size
Also which rifle do you prefer?
I am stuck between the ACR and SCAR-H. The ACR due to its VERY low recoil and the SCAR-H for its power as an automatic.
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Post by qupie on Nov 21, 2009 23:18:52 GMT -5
The TAR is the best gun for me, it is a scar with slightly more recoil (but sometimes the scar does the same as the old mp5 did, jump away far from the target sometimes) while the tar has a bigger but nice and constant recoil, bigger clip, and a faster rate of fire (extremely handy for close quarter, just hipfire and they will go down. also burst firing with the tar works better IMO (its like a M16 if you want to... Also the TAR has a verry nice red dot, wich seemes to reduce the recoil, but I honnestly never use it anymore after I completed the red dot challange. I think red dot and holo sight are for blind ppl, most guns have good sights and just save yourself the bling, and just get slight/marathon/scavanger with your gun.
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Post by vardinator on Nov 21, 2009 23:48:13 GMT -5
The FAMAS is my best weapon, period. Something about it makes me love it. It's with the FAMAS that I get all my best matches, because I can midrange and long-range with it if it has the Thermal. Close range is covered by either some risky hip fire, an under-mounted shotgun, or my trusty Striker. =D I also have a habit of getting seven consecutive head shots with the thing. That's when the first round strikes them in the leg and the rifle, unbeknown to myself, decides it can aim itself better than I can and bounces up for the dome.
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Post by toysrme on Nov 22, 2009 0:05:27 GMT -5
every AR is the bestest gun in the game except that piece of flying shit AK47. they all have their place.
famas great m16 better scar = pwnz any 1.5 player at a time acr = beast pwning m4 = great for up close spraying tar = for any gametype that has enough targets the scar could use a bigger clip
seriously tho.
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Post by toysrme on Nov 22, 2009 0:05:53 GMT -5
oh and the fn2000 is the most useless gun of any cod game. worse than the BAR & R700 by a mile
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Post by toysrme on Nov 22, 2009 0:06:16 GMT -5
"fail" says it all about that.
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Post by vardinator on Nov 22, 2009 0:11:19 GMT -5
oh and the fn2000 is the most useless gun of any cod game. worse than the BAR & R700 by a mile What are you basing this off of? Even better, how does the R700 suck? That was my best rifle in CoD4 until I got my hands on the Barret.
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Post by individual on Nov 22, 2009 0:25:04 GMT -5
Recoil matters the most to me. Because all of them are very close in terms of damage. 2-3 bullets difference is only a fraction of a second... On the other hand, high recoil adds a huge amount of time to your kill time because you either need to spray or burst fire, and it's unpredictable.
I like the ACR the most because its recoil is low, so it's just point and shoot. With the SCAR, it's deadly at close range, but at longer ranges, it jumps around a bit. And both the ACR and SCAR are nice with Thermal Scope...
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Post by robesh on Nov 22, 2009 11:56:42 GMT -5
R700 was terrible.
It had NO advantage over the Barrett.
It's cons include more sway, highest recoil(therefor longest center time), lowest ammo capacity. Against a non-jug, the M40 was far superior. Against a jug, the Barrett was superior.
It would have made sense to make the Barrett have more sway, but idk why they did a lot of things in that game. Example: M40 ACOG? WTF is up with the OSK to the foot?
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Post by vardinator on Nov 22, 2009 13:24:46 GMT -5
R700 was terrible. It had NO advantage over the Barrett. It's cons include more sway, highest recoil(therefor longest center time), lowest ammo capacity. Against a non-jug, the M40 was far superior. Against a jug, the Barrett was superior. It would have made sense to make the Barrett have more sway, but idk why they did a lot of things in that game. Example: M40 ACOG? WTF is up with the OSK to the foot? I said I used it until I got the Barret. I can fight sway, I can manage without the Claymores so I can use Bandoleer, and the recoil didn't affect me one bit. The idea that I can shoot a Juggerjuicer in the chest and kill him while still having the ability to one-shot everyone else in the balls (which the Dragonuv can't do for some reason) gave me confidence in my shot. I think my first collateral was with the R700 because it's just so damn strong. Then the Barret came, and I laid the R700 to rest as my... I think second most-used sniper. Took me a while to unlock it because I didn't strive for challenges, so I used the M40A3 a lot.
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Post by toysrme on Nov 22, 2009 13:40:16 GMT -5
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Post by individual on Nov 22, 2009 13:43:07 GMT -5
The R700 had only one advantage: If you're dealing with Juggernauts and have good aim, the R700 could be preferable, since the Barret is louder and higher recoil.
If there are no Juggernauts, the R700 is just an M40A3 with higher sway.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 22, 2009 13:55:05 GMT -5
toys, what's wrong with the AK-47? It's like the only gun I still want to unlock. 40-30 damage + 30 round magazine should = win, right?
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Post by toysrme on Nov 22, 2009 16:11:03 GMT -5
ak47 is good to a close-medium range. you go trying to pop people beyond medium range. say medium-long to long u better hope they're already injured. recoil is nasty on it.
i wasn't the biggest ak47 hoe in cod4, but i would use it more than competantly w iron sight. new one... i kept trying it and didn't like it. not sure if it still has the long range attachment penalty, but *if* it does, thats a total deal breaker. inaccurate gun doing 20 damage at range isn't my thing!
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Post by kilo on Nov 22, 2009 16:33:03 GMT -5
Ak is good. Sort of an inbetween of the scar and tar just like the m4 is inbetween f2000 and act
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Post by toysrme on Nov 22, 2009 18:53:25 GMT -5
glad someone can use it/likes it. its like the recoil is the same in every direction, so it jumps wildly. it doesn't jump *more* than anything else, just goes back & forth 2 much for me!
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Post by noscreenname on Nov 22, 2009 18:57:10 GMT -5
Stuck on the Tar-21 right now. Three round burst sucks for me, and the others all feel weak comparatively. Coming from using AK47 on cod4 ALOT, I feel like this is one on roids. The m4 always felt weak to me in cod4 and it has carried over to this game. Why not roll with a 40-30 if you can handle it? Quipie explained most advantages so no need for review.
I have been using the irons, but the red dot is unique. Extended mags is my choice of attachment. I sometimes switch to FMJ if it is a cover heavy map.
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Post by toysrme on Nov 22, 2009 18:59:01 GMT -5
im with you. TAR rolls fairly hard. great SP damage, high ROF, manageable recoil, 30rd clip. reload is alittle long but meh, quick add
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Post by iKONIG on Nov 23, 2009 5:29:35 GMT -5
yeah, im stressing hard for that AK, but seriously, if its similar to the one off CoD4 [im an AK hoe], then il be all over it, i love the TAR, but even getting the 300 kill mark with this gun the recoil still manages to get away from me! lets hoping that this AK isnt another MP44!
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Post by kcpwnsgman on Nov 25, 2009 0:18:47 GMT -5
I used the AK a bit and it seems unchanged except maybe a little bit more accurate at longer ranges (maybe it's because I know how to use it more than most of the weapons in mw2?)
list of rifles best to worst in my experience with them: ACR AK-47 SCAR-H M4A1 M16 TAR-21 F2000 FAL FAMAS
although I haven't used the TAR or FAMAS very much (or at all in the case of the FAMAS)
in competitive play i'd rank the AK and SCAR higher up on the list and drop the ACR to third
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Post by sleep on Nov 25, 2009 17:58:54 GMT -5
SCAR-H and ACR are the best imo. I also love the FAL (G3 recoil + M14 power) and it's nice to use with perk2's besides stopping power. The TAR-21 is also quite good, but i prefer the low recoil of the SCAR-H (not to mention slightly better iron sights) with extended mags if necessary. M4A1 is a fine weapon but the ACR just outclasses it. I think the 3-round burst guns are both decent but I don't like using them, and the F2000 is straight garbage.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 26, 2009 2:15:40 GMT -5
I got the AK. It's good, but not as good as I had hoped it would be. The ACR is definitely my favorite for Core, and the SCAR for Hardcore. Not a fan of burst weapons.
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Post by robesh on Nov 26, 2009 12:34:30 GMT -5
ACR is my favourite weapon. Next comes the M4 Then the SCAR Then the M16
ACR is great: No recoi, no sway, no problem
I've always been more a fan of 40-30 damage guns (i.e. the AK-47 in CoD4), but the ACR has changed my mind. I also like the M4, but it doesn't feel as good as the ACR feels. The SCAR is great aswell, but it needs scavenger to be effective.
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Post by sleep on Nov 26, 2009 16:34:31 GMT -5
Ak is good. Sort of an inbetween of the scar and tar just like the m4 is inbetween f2000 and act ^ exactly. for 40-30 assault rifles it seems to be the middle of the road as far as ROF and recoil. btw, i did some basic testing with a few attachments. the ak receives a sway/idle amount penalty when using RDS, silencer, and even grenade launcher. that's all i have unlocked but i assume this penalty carries across the board for all attachments. i didn't test damage... hoping that isn't affected as well!
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Post by sleep on Nov 26, 2009 16:39:14 GMT -5
(without attachments it has near 0 sway/idle just like most of the other ARs)
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 26, 2009 18:37:14 GMT -5
The silenced AK is a one shot kill at any range in Hardcore, so I assume sway is the only penalty.
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Post by sleep on Nov 26, 2009 19:51:46 GMT -5
cool.
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