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Post by Orske on Nov 23, 2009 21:19:01 GMT -5
Hello. I am not good at call of duty MW2. In call of duty 4 I used juggernaut and steady aim with a P90. I did Ok with that setup. It probably got me between poor to low average player range. I can't aim to well so i try to help my teams by running around with my current setup...
a riot shield marathon pro light weight pro comando pro
it keeps me alive a bit longer but i still die alot. My teams in MW2 that i get placed with... send memessages (to put it nicely) that i suck and also to ditch the riot shield.
well i AM dropping the riot shield and I AM doing research on what to stuff is good for a player like me to pick and this site is really detailed.
whats a good gun and perks for me and why? bros.
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Post by toysrme on Nov 23, 2009 21:40:36 GMT -5
what system do u play on?
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Post by Orske on Nov 23, 2009 21:57:28 GMT -5
hey that remove ads post is GREAT!!! the sticky!! that is so cool, i didn't even know such a thing was possible! who ever reads this post should check that one out if you haven't.
I play on xbox live, oh I also use a javelin as a secondary weapon most the time and melee with the knife
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Post by toysrme on Nov 23, 2009 22:14:01 GMT -5
send me a message, well play abit. im lagging my ass off tonight anyway (80ms pings to google, 200 to yahoo! wtf!)
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Post by Orske on Nov 23, 2009 22:30:14 GMT -5
my new mic isn't in from the mail yet so it'll have to wait at least a few days anyways but i will/would apperciate it.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 24, 2009 0:08:22 GMT -5
The best guns for beginners/bad players are FAMAS M4 SCAR M16 (slightly better than FAMAS but is unlocked later on) ACR (much better than the M4 but is unlocked later on) and maybe the AK-47 replaces the SCAR, but I don't have the AK yet so IDK how easy it is to use.
If you can use iron sights, use a grenade launcher or if you want to be sneaky use a silencer. If you can't use iron sights, use the Red Dot or Holographic. For secondaries, either take a Stinger to use against vehicles or an AA-12 for close range (maybe Akimbo 1887s when you hit level 67). If you use the AA-12, DO NOT put a silencer on it. Use Grip, FMJ, or Extended Mags. Do not aim down the sights with shotguns, always fire them from the hip. For perks, use Scavenger or Sleight of Hand, Stopping Power, and Steady Aim or Commando. I would lean a bit more toward Sleight of Hand and Steady Aim, but try Scavenger and Commando out to see if you like them. For death streak, use Painkiller or Final Stand.
Seriously, do all of that.
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Post by robesh on Nov 24, 2009 1:25:52 GMT -5
Camp your ass off. Seriously, do it. It helps your k/d and helps you get kill streaks.
Really, it's so hard to run and gun if you don't know the maps.
As for guns to use, I'd go with FAMAS if you have decent aim, and M4A1 if you don't like the FAMAS's 3-round-burst. UMP is a good SMG, but it's got tons of recoil, so if you aren't so good with recoil, the MP5K is always a good alternative. I like the first LMG you get (can't remember what it is I think it's like an L-86 or something), but it too has mega-recoil. The SPAS-12 requires good aim, and the "n00b friendly" shotguns are unlocked later.
In MW2 there are four types of Assault Rifles -Low recoil, low damage, high ROF autos (M4A1, ACR, maybe FN 2k but idk haven't used it yet) -High recoil, high damage, low ROF autos (SCAR, AK-47, TAR-21) -Low recoil, high damage, low ROF 3-round-burst rifles (well, the first 3 rounds actually have a higher ROF)=M16 & FAMAS -low recoil, high damage, low ROF semi-autos=FAL
The way I see it, the low recoil, low damage autos require better aim, while the high damage high recoil autos require better trigger control. The 3-round-burst rifles are GREAT if you can get the kill in the first or maybe even second burst. Otherwise, it's just wasting ammo. The FAL is good for it's significantly high power, to a point where stopping power doesn't have an effect on it. But the FAL is said to be hard to use, so if you are as bad as you say you are, don't use it.
The best thing you could do is just try all the guns out and see which one you like most. You will almost always do better with what you feel comfortable with than what people on the internet tell you to use.
One of the most important skills is map-savvy.
Learning the maps is the difference between a 1:2 k/d and a 2:1 k/d, trust me
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 24, 2009 2:53:42 GMT -5
Robesh, you're wrong on two points. The F2000 has MASSIVE recoil and a very high ROF. It sucks horribly. The TAR has a pretty high ROF, but it has more recoil than the SCAR or AK. The TAR and AK are the only guns in the running for best overall AR, but the TAR has some unfriendly recoil and the AK idles a bit with fairly low recoil.
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Post by toysrme on Nov 24, 2009 7:00:19 GMT -5
imo newbs cant manage the 3 round bursts. never seen a raw FPS newb that took kindly too them.
if you really do suck, then start off with the M4 with a red dot/holo sight & graduate to the TAR when it unlocks. SCAR rolls very hard but the 20 round clip & 60 rounds of ammo will get you killed too often. From the TAR hit the ACR for points.
watch all killcams & keep track of what you did wrong & what you did right when u kill people. and frankly... let the other idiots go first & try to shoot the people shooting at them. once you get the flow of the maps you can get into flanking etc
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Post by Orske on Nov 24, 2009 10:39:59 GMT -5
Ok I have been trying these suggestions this morning/last night. I wish i could replay that kill cam. also before i wasn't really paying attention to it. Some of these guys have amazing aim. one guy even did a 360 jumping off a building and still killed me lol.
I'm still doing a lot of hip fire so yeah that steady aim does help too.
Now i'm trying to fire down the sites as often as i can but its pretty hard to kill that way.
One tip i discovered... well its actually pretty obvious i guess.. AND i'm not really sure its working because i just started doing it last game and i didnt do good. FFA. but it wasn't obvious to me until i started watching the kill cams. Is while your aiming target them and move around with the movement button back and forth and try to move the aiming button as little as possible. (seems i over correct myself that way) plus you get to make it harder for them to shoot you that way too.
anyways tactical loitering has been helping a lot too but people get pissed off at campers so i try to avoid it. In one game I got lucky and got an air crate so i threw it in a very devious spot to lure people to my camp site. anyways this truned out extremely well. People kept running to try to get it and i just kept shooting them... which got me a plane... then a chopper... and i came in first place lol lol!
anyways i got it one other time in another game. i tried that tactic again but the second guy that came along just proceeded to shoot me in the back of the head heh. If i get it again today ill see what happens.
i'm gonna try the 3 shot M16 the next few games and see how that works out.
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Post by shadz on Nov 24, 2009 11:29:30 GMT -5
You said aiming was difficult, perhaps you should try fiddling with your sensitivity. Make sure you're comfortable with aiming and moving about first of all.
Find a gun you like to use. You said you like to hipfire, perhaps try using the SMG's or LMG's with Steady Aim. Careful though, you'll get lots of people coming after you, so try silencers, cold blooded, and ninja.
Also use low killstreak rewards. Try using UAV and Predator for your main rewards. By throwing in the Care Package you'll ocasionally get something nice like the AC1-30, Chopper Gunner, etc.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 24, 2009 12:11:29 GMT -5
Don't worry about people getting pissed. Play however you want as long as you aren't glitching or cheating.
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Post by Orske on Nov 24, 2009 12:12:03 GMT -5
You said aiming was difficult, perhaps you should try fiddling with your sensitivity. Make sure you're comfortable with aiming and moving about first of all. Find a gun you like to use. You said you like to hipfire, perhaps try using the SMG's or LMG's with Steady Aim. Careful though, you'll get lots of people coming after you, so try silencers, cold blooded, and ninja. . sensitivy is only set at 8. ok ill try at smg the p90 with silencer if i have it unlocked, and ill use the perks... marathon, cold blooded and ninja. as for the M16 3 shot, with this setup for all 3 games: M16 (no attatchments because i didn't havce any unlocked) marathon stopping power steady aim FFA i got this: 9-16 highrise 6th place 16-18 airport 7th place 12-24 afgan 7th place then i swtiched over to my old setup with the riot shield for a game, FFA and got: 20-16 scrapyard 2nd place *flex*
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 24, 2009 13:05:17 GMT -5
Marathon, Cold Blooded, and Ninja are really for more skilled, tactical players.
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Post by mdnl on Nov 24, 2009 13:16:54 GMT -5
Just use whatever is fun for you, it's a game, if you suck at it, it doesn't matter so long as you enjoy it.
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Post by Orske on Nov 24, 2009 13:51:48 GMT -5
yeah those are hard lmao. been trying it now in multiplayer. oh and the riot shield in FFA is pretty ok. but thats mostly because people are not organized at all. and its easy to just block someones bullets till they start reloading or runaway then swap to a pistol fast.
what are people talking about when they say click to a target? or auto aim? when ever i look down the red dot site, i dont ever get any auto aim?
oh and playing today trying to get a little better with guns, i am starting to see how bad hip firing really is. i literally need to suprise the person unless i get lucky. or else they just aim and kill me
I did turn down my sensitivy way down and that is helping a ton! its annoying not being able to turn around as fast but it helps alot with aiming.
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Post by killeraslox on Nov 24, 2009 13:54:23 GMT -5
Just use whatever is fun for you, it's a game, if you suck at it, it doesn't matter so long as you enjoy it. This, or connect another controller and try splitscreen to test power, recoil, etc. of the weapons you currently have (by putting use Xbox Live Unlocks: On) on the other player (which stands still, but that doesn't matter).
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Post by Orske on Nov 24, 2009 13:54:56 GMT -5
Marathon, Cold Blooded, and Ninja are really for more skilled, tactical players. I mean cold blooded and ninja seem to be a death sentence for me. Whats wrong with marathon tho? or is there just a better couple perks?
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Post by Orske on Nov 24, 2009 13:59:46 GMT -5
Just use whatever is fun for you, it's a game, if you suck at it, it doesn't matter so long as you enjoy it. This, or connect another controller and try splitscreen to test power, recoil, etc. of the weapons you currently have (by putting use Xbox Live Unlocks: On) on the other player (which stands still, but that doesn't matter). im going to try this right now
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 24, 2009 21:56:49 GMT -5
Marathon will get you killed a lot if you don't know when you shouldn't be sprinting. Also, infinite sprint is borderline useless for players who aren't really good because other players simply can't engage enemies at the speed you are supposed to when using Marathon, meaning that other Perk 1s, namely Sleight of Hand, are far more useful. Unless you are purely focusing on objectives, you should not use Marathon.
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Post by i8 on Nov 25, 2009 9:02:30 GMT -5
U have to use stopping power or u will be at a disadvantage
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Post by ssog on Nov 25, 2009 18:03:48 GMT -5
U have to use stopping power or u will be at a disadvantage I think you mean that if he uses Stopping Power, he will be at a disadvantage. Here is the reality of being a sucky player- if you and the other guy see each other at the same time, you will lose. Stopping Power makes no difference, even if the other guy doesn't have it- heads-up 1-on-1 = lose. Why use a perk that won't help you any? You're better off using a perk that will help you avoid those 1-on-1 heads-up situations in the first place. A perk like Cold Blooded (to sneak up on people) or Hardline (for lots of UAVs). I always recommend Cold Blooded for sucky players, because the reality of life as a sucky player is that if the other guy knows where you are, you're dead.
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Post by toysrme on Nov 25, 2009 18:52:32 GMT -5
For AR's & LMG's use a sensitivity of 3-4 For SMG's Pistols & shotguns use 5-8. For sniping use 10.
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Post by ssog on Nov 26, 2009 0:03:33 GMT -5
For AR's & LMG's use a sensitivity of 3-4 For SMG's Pistols & shotguns use 5-8. For sniping use 10. Not necessarily. Use the highest sensitivity you can without compromising your ability to aim. I have a buddy who has set his sensitivity to 1 with every weapon in every single CoD game. He's one of the best players I know, and currently has a k/d of 2.5 in MW2. Sure, he gets into trouble any time he gets ambushed from behind because he can't turn quickly... but on the other hand, he's a run-and-gunner with an accuracy over 40%, and if he sees you first, he wins. Moral of the story: accuracy is far more important than turn speed. If you can boost turn speed without sacrificing accuracy, then do. If you can't, then don't.
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Post by Orske on Nov 26, 2009 7:14:59 GMT -5
U have to use stopping power or u will be at a disadvantage I think you mean that if he uses Stopping Power, he will be at a disadvantage. Here is the reality of being a sucky player- if you and the other guy see each other at the same time, you will lose. Stopping Power makes no difference, even if the other guy doesn't have it- heads-up 1-on-1 = lose. Why use a perk that won't help you any? You're better off using a perk that will help you avoid those 1-on-1 heads-up situations in the first place. A perk like Cold Blooded (to sneak up on people) or Hardline (for lots of UAVs). I always recommend Cold Blooded for sucky players, because the reality of life as a sucky player is that if the other guy knows where you are, you're dead. thats actually a good point. I do die maybe 80% of the time if we see each other near the same time
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Post by robesh on Nov 26, 2009 12:36:58 GMT -5
Robesh, you're wrong on two points. The F2000 has MASSIVE recoil and a very high ROF. It sucks horribly. The TAR has a pretty high ROF, but it has more recoil than the SCAR or AK. The TAR and AK are the only guns in the running for best overall AR, but the TAR has some unfriendly recoil and the AK idles a bit with fairly low recoil. Oh sorry, my bad
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Post by alchemist1984 on Nov 26, 2009 18:43:52 GMT -5
Just wanted to say that I'm new here and can't help but be impressed with this board. It's by far and away the best COD board I've come across. It's full of good accurate information rather than muppets arguing their unsupported cases and descending into slanging matches and equally seems to be full of people who realise that it's still a game, it's meant to be fun and as long as you're not cheating you can play the game however you like.
Right. Enough of the brown nosing, going to be around here plenty.
One question. What's the "bro, bro" thing about?
Cheers dudes.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 26, 2009 19:11:38 GMT -5
If you have to ask, you aren't yet a bro. RTFM, in all seriousness.
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Post by mw0swedeking on Nov 29, 2009 16:53:13 GMT -5
my advice for a beginner (not that i'm far past that stage), is don't replace your iron sights w/ an attachment and don't use stopping power. These are things you don't want to rely on. later you might want a silencer or rapid fire or something, and then you'll be tempted to waste your perk one on bling. Also, play defensive... choose defensive perks. You don't want people to know where you are when you don'y know where they are. Cold blooded is great, if you've unlocked it, it keeps you from getting wasted by killstreaks. ninja is also great, it negates the advantage someone has if they're running a heartbeat sensor, meaning you show up when they don't expect it. one more thing, periodically crouch walk! your footsteps are quiet, so you can hear others nearby.
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Post by individual on Nov 29, 2009 18:33:08 GMT -5
SCAR w/ grenade launcher Model 1887 Akimbo Semtex Scavenger Stopping Power Steady Aim Painkiller
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