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Post by scb on Dec 16, 2009 23:02:10 GMT -5
Someone said in another thread they thought C4 was the best equipment in the game, but provided no details.
As a Claymore lover myself (and non-sniper), I don't know how I would take advantage of it. Can anyone provide helpful suggestions?
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Post by playn on Dec 16, 2009 23:59:57 GMT -5
i use it in flag based objective games. CTF and domination works best this is what i do - get to the flag you want to protect - place your C4 in a very un noticeable area either near the flag or at an entrance to the flag - get in a good position so that you can see it, but are well hidden enough - when the enemy is in range of the C4 double tap SQUARE to blow them up its fun as use scavenger for best affect so you can pick up more C4's without having to die. also use danger close to ensure a kill
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Post by n1gh7 on Dec 17, 2009 0:02:29 GMT -5
Someone said in another thread they thought C4 was the best equipment in the game, but provided no details. As a Claymore lover myself (and non-sniper), I don't know how I would take advantage of it. Can anyone provide helpful suggestions? You are my bro, bro. Plant it where people will be. Wait. When someone is within the blast radius, shoot it or double tap reload with Terminators out. Honestly I think the only benefit is a bigger kill radius, a circular one, you control its explosion, and it isn't affected by stuns/flashes? I might be wrong.
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Post by playn on Dec 17, 2009 0:27:25 GMT -5
its affected by stuns and flashes. people sometimes flash/stun the area and it doesnt activate until its too late
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Post by ssog on Dec 17, 2009 1:08:15 GMT -5
You can also use it like a grenade, too, although it doesn't throw as far. Basically, just toss the C4 at an enemy (aim up to arc it a bit), then blow it up immediately. It's essentially the same as a Semtex when you use it that way. With that said, I still don't think anything tops the Claymore.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 17, 2009 2:33:34 GMT -5
Depends on the game mode. I would always take Semtex or Claymores unless I was playing Search and Destroy (just about all I play, so C4 is my home boy). Put one on the bomb after planting, throw it into sniper windows from below, it's got tons of uses and is hella fun.
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Post by Den on Dec 17, 2009 4:03:46 GMT -5
C4 = Plan B You always need a Plan B and you always gotta stick to the plan.
The flat profile and the dim blinking light of C4 is much more difficult to spot than the Claymore. It also a full radius and greater range, power is equivalent to Semtex. Sticking it high is the best way to make the trap unnoticeable as well as burst over any possible cover.
It has range. Capable of making it into second story windows, over high walls and up stairs. You aren't going to overthrow this thing like you would a Semtex, either. It has no fuse. You can detonate in one second. The bad guys have even less opportunity to get out of the way of a room-clearing C4 than against the Semtex.
The C4 has a bit more utility, an indirect property.
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Post by cptmacmillan on Dec 17, 2009 6:06:52 GMT -5
I was the person who said that I had the belief it was the best equipment in the game. I'll try to give an idea of how I use it however it's something that has came more with experience than anything else (C4 was also my preferred perk 1 in WAW and I used it very much there, not too different now).
First up, I play SnD primarily. Second, I do not use the C4 for tactical loitering purposes in almost any situation. I will not plant it on a bomb site on defense; I will not put it in front of a doorway, etc. I do not think that is using it to it's full potential. The only times I might do something like that is if I've planted the bomb and in certain other rare situations that don't really have any criteria.
How I get most of my kills with them is by using them offensively. There are three traits to keep in mind: They leave you vulnerable while tossing, they have a big+powerful explosion, and they give no warning + no time to run to the enemy. Keeping these in mind, you use them at short ranges where your opponent can not see you. If he ducks behind a corner or some such, or you know he's there via UAV, you can toss one around and blast him. Why not use frags or semtex? Frags leave you vulnerable for far longer as you have to cook and are not nearly as strong, and I'll cover semtex a bit later because it's a competitor with C4 for best equipment.
Another use that takes advantage of all 3 traits is killing people with riot shields. It works almost flawlessly. An advantage over other explosives is that at very close range or in the air the C4 will pretty much ignore the shield, making them unable to block the blast.
Tossing them over medium-tall objects works amazingly well; the throw on these things is absolutely perfect for that. You can get a good many kills like that. Just for a couple of examples to see what medium-tall is, think of the stacks of boxes in the warehouse of Derail or the high area on Offense side on Sub Base.
One great trick that catches many people off-guard is when you're planting or defusing the bomb, you can toss the c4 and detonate it rather quickly. When you're platning or defusing you typically have a 3 second animation of dropping the bomb that will get you killed. Naturally being equipment C4 overrides this animation... it's the best equipment for this because it has the biggest kill radius with the shortest detonate time.... the only disadvantage it normally has (leaving you vulnerable) is gone because you were vulnerable anyways. One thing to note, however - When you do this with any equipment, when you finish throwing it you will pull the bomb back out and do the 3-second animation to drop it again.
Another use like this is to quickly prone behind cover when you have to reload and start the c4 throwing animation, and then get back up so it goes over the cover and then prone back down to detonate it. This can be a viable alternative to reloading or switching weapons if the criteria are met (moderately close range and you have cover).
Why not Semtex? I don't feel like going in-depth, but as a summary, it has +power +shorter time to detonate +no warning +manual detonator +better weight -more vulnerable while using -can't be used at longer ranges. I'm not saying C4 makes Semtex obsolete, however. Semtex definitely has it's uses and I'd put it as 2nd best, I just find myself preferring C4.
I hope this helps a bit. Remember, in addition to everything else practice makes perfect. The more experience you get with these things the better you'll do with them, because they are quite different from what most people are used to.
Edit: Apparently C4 and Semtex have the same damage and radius. Still prefer c4, though.
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Post by chip sandwich on Dec 18, 2009 3:29:47 GMT -5
Obvious tip: Don't EVER stand next to your own C4. It was an embarrassing experience
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Post by bobysk8 on Dec 20, 2009 23:50:27 GMT -5
i love c4, espicially on domination. how much does danger pro increase the range by??
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Post by iKONIG on Dec 21, 2009 3:28:44 GMT -5
Hmmm, I use C4 for rebel points. Like using the ACOG on the UZI
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Post by moses on Dec 24, 2009 2:25:31 GMT -5
I have to agree with the love for C4. I used them in CoD4 during the end of my time with it for fun, and my god, they were fun. Tossing them into a room by strafing into the doorway and out, being under cover while two poor saps trying nailing your shadow get blown up, that was certainly a grand thing to do.
So of course, when I got them in MW2, I tried them out in horror as they went half as far. Semtex just seemed far more logical. Then, last night, I tried them out with more of a whirl. From the first time I exploded a C4 before it even hit the ground, I was sold.
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Post by chyros on Dec 24, 2009 6:32:02 GMT -5
i love c4, espicially on domination. how much does danger pro increase the range by?? Its range doesn't increase per se, but its fatal radius increases by 28,5% which boils down to a 65% increase in fatal AoE.
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Post by cptmacmillan on Dec 26, 2009 21:29:48 GMT -5
Do I get more rebel points for using a blinged out Silencer+Thermal Mini-uzi?
It actually works quite well, which is funny. You can kill people from a long ways away very quickly with a good thermal burst and steady aim fire is extremely accurate up to mid-range. Silencer is just for extra-cool points.
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