BF4 Alpha Weapon Stats

[didjeridu]

More discussion thievery from Symthic: forum.symthic.com/battlefield-4/5040-bf4-alpha-weapon-stats/

BF4 is going for a lower damage model, and is more in line with BC2. Obviously stats are subject to change, but are interesting nonetheless. In case you're unaware carbines and DMRs are all-kit this time around, so take note of the carbine/assault and DMR/bolt balance. Also of note, battle pickup weapons are scattered around the maps at fixed locations. Watch in wonder of the great wookie migration to reach their home breeding grounds: the .50 cal!

AK5C (Carbine)

Damage: 20-14.3, Dropoff: 8-50

ROF: 700

Recoil: .22 V, .2/.2 H, 1.65 FSM

Standing Spread: .4 ads, 1.5 hip, .075 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: .8 ads, 2.5 hip

Velocity: 630

CZ805 (Assault Rifle)

Damage: 20-16.7, Dropoff: 8-50

ROF: 700

Recoil: .24 V, .05/.35 H, 2.1 FSM

Standing Spread: .2 ads, 2 hip, .075 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1 ads, 3 hip

Velocity: 580

QBZ951 (Assault Rifle)

Damage: 20-16.7, Dropoff: 8-50

ROF: 650

Recoil: .2 V, .1/.4 H, 2 FSM

Standing Spread: .2 ads, 2 hip, .075 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1 ads, 3 hip

Velocity: 630

Scorpion (PDW)

Damage: 16.7-11, Dropoff: 8-45

ROF: 1000

Recoil: .4 V, .3/.55 H, 2.5 FSM

Standing Spread: .5 ads, 1 hip, .1 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: .8 ads, 1.5 hip

Velocity: 370

P90 (PDW)

Damage: 16.7-11.2, Dropoff: 8-40

ROF: 900

Recoil: .18 V, .5/.5 H, 2.4 FSM

Standing Spread: .5 ads, 1 hip, .1 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: .8 ads, 1.5 hip

Velocity: 460

Type88 (LMG)

Damage: 20-16.7, Dropoff: 8-50

ROF: 700

Recoil: .2 V, .3/.3 H, 1 FSM

Standing Spread: .4 ads, 3.5 hip, .075 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1 ads, 4.5 hip

Velocity: 600

Ultimax (LMG)

Damage: 20-16.7, Dropoff: 8-50

ROF: 590

Recoil: .25 V, .2/.2 H, 1.5 FSM

Standing Spread: .4 ads, 3 hip, .075 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1 ads, 4 hip

Velocity: 650

ScoutElite (Bolt Action)

Damage: 100-38, Dropoff: 25-120

ROF: 63

Recoil: .25 V, 0/0 H, 2 FSM

Standing Spread: 0 ads, 3.5 hip, 1.2 increase (0 when stand+zoom), 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1.5 ads, 4.5 hip

Velocity: 640

SV98 (Bolt Action)

Damage: 100-56, Dropoff: 25-80

ROF: 48

Recoil: .25 V, 0/0 H, 2 FSM

Standing Spread: 0 ads, 4 hip, 1.2 increase (0 when stand+zoom), 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1.5 ads, 5 hip

Velocity: 520

RFB (DMR)

Damage: 43-30, Dropoff: 15-75

ROF: 260

Recoil: .5 V, -.1/.3 H, 2 FSM

Standing Spread: .05 ads, 3 hip, .6 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1 ads, 4 hip

Velocity: 460

M9 (Pistol)

Damage: 25-13.9, Dropoff: 8-50

ROF: 400

Recoil: .45 V, .3/.3 H, 1 FSM

Standing Spread: .5 ads, 1 hip, .2 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: .5 ads, 1.5 hip

Velocity: 380

QSZ92 (Pistol)

Damage: 20-12.5, Dropoff: 8-40

ROF: 455

Recoil: .5 V, .3/.6 H, 1 FSM

Standing Spread: .5 ads, 1 hip, .2 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: .5 ads, 1.5 hip

Velocity: 380

Hawk (Shotgun)

Buckshot Damage: 14-5, Dropoff: 12-25, 14 Pellets

Flechette Damage: 10-7.4, Dropoff: 14-30, 14 Pellets

Slug Damage: 100-38, Dropoff: 12-50

Frag Damage: 37.5-10, Dropoff: 8-40, 25 Blast Damage in a 2-2.5m radius.

ROF: 97

Recoil: 1.5 V, 2/2 H, 1 FSM

Standing Spread: .1 ads, 1.5 hip, 1.2 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1.2 ads, 2 hip

Pellet Cone: 3.5 Buckshot, 2.5 Flechette

Velocity: 300 Buckshot, 450 Flechette, 300 Slug, 150 Frag

M82A3 (Pickup)

Damage: 110

ROF: 125

Recoil: 2 V, -.1/.3 H, 1 FSM

Standing Spread: .1 ads, 5 hip, 1.2 increase, 15 decrease

Moving Spread: 1.2 ads, 6 hip

Velocity: 560

[mmacola]

I'm not sure if I like having slow muzzle velocity snipers, if we are going to see false gravity again.

And that 100 damage SV98

[Deleted]

Five to eleven bullet kills?!!?

Oh mah gawd.

M82A3 is gonna be freakin' awesome though. Although there probably will be only one per map. Or team.

[prioc]

yeah, I don't know if I really like the very low damage stuff. I think it's alright for some things, but for things like LMGs it shouldn't be low like it was in BFBC2. the only LMG I liked using in that game was the M60, and the XM8 MG was alright. it looks like this one will be alright though, I just haven't played any battlefield game for a while and I guess I am not used to weapons killing in so many bullets. it'll probably be alright once I get into playing it, it is just like going back to CoD games after a long time of battlefield, weapons seem to kill very quickly and I shoot extra bullets

[Deleted]

110 damage? But 110 x .9 is 99; which would imply that there's a remote chance of surviving a 50-Cal round.

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Jul 9, 2013 19:46:06 GMT -5 @sweetwater said:

110 damage? But 110 x .9 is 99; which would imply that there's a remote chance of surviving a 50-Cal round.

u wot

[mmacola]

Yes, except its a 0.91 multiplier, not 0.9

It could be specific to it though

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Whelp. I'm an idiot.*facepalm*

[tiesieman]

Don't think this is the balance we'll see in the actual game

Power weapons in battlefield though...that's interesting

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Jul 10, 2013 4:34:33 GMT -5 tiesieman said:

Don't think this is the balance we'll see in the actual game

Power weapons in battlefield though...that's interesting

It is. I'm not sure how I feel about them. I wonder if they will have one for each class? Imagine an AR that kills in 3 bullets at huge ranges that is fully auto, or something. Would it be fair?

[didjeridu]

Overall I like the change, but I still want to see what the higher caliber weapons will do. I liked the higher damage in BF3 at first, but it lost its luster over time. I dislike low damage as well, but I think BC2 had it just about right. Along with the suppression nerf, it will re-introduce a bit of skill into the infantry combat.

Jul 9, 2013 19:37:44 GMT -5 prioc said:

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Don't get too down. LMGs still get the benefit of suppression, plus DICE claims that they're giving them better accuracy this time around. The alpha stats back that up too. Plus like I mentioned previously, we haven't seen the higher caliber weapons yet. There will be a place for us M60 lovers.

[mmacola]

According to symthic, suppression will wear off over distance AND it barelly affects weapons now (as in alpha state). It only increases recoil, by the same ammounts present in bf3.

DMRs, Shotguns and Bolt Actions semm to fight against suppression surprinsingly well, and I like that. A well positioned sniper should be feared, not just shot around.

[didjeridu]

That's the way suppression should have been in the first place. If people think that's too little, then add some sway or more blur. You know, stuff that still hinders you yet can be countered. Added spread is not only bs, but just perpetuates the dominance of the hbar. Precision weapons are screwed, yet the high RoF spray weapons are rewarded. This time around there will be more spread increase per shot. Slower RoF weapons are now actually viable, and the high RoFs are rightfully limited in their effective range. Who knows, maybe people will actually start making use of fire modes (especially with the new angled grip)?