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Post by markopolo on Jan 29, 2015 16:19:06 GMT -5
You can only get a max of 9 coins per character per week. That's it. If you do the level 26, for six coins, that means you can only get 3 more coins in the Weekly. You go do the Lv30...you don't get nine coins, you only get three. So question: Mannon and I did the nightfall... he got 10 coins and I got a lowimpact/alreadygone AR. Can Mannon get more coins this week? Or is the 9 coin max weekly only?
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 29, 2015 16:20:05 GMT -5
I'm definitely planning to run the Weekly. Should be a piece of cake compared to NF... Then again I think it's arc burn and no solar, so that's not great, but the solar really only helped against the shards and wizards. TBH..... because a lot have Arc shields and it's solar burn, it might actually be harder. I was absolutely murdering the Fallen captains with Arc burn and the final part when I was just standing there headshotting Omni with P&T, I was doing a disgusting amount of damage per clip. But if you're up for it, so am I. Hell, let's break bradman's cherry and do it with him. 24 is 3 coins, 26 is 6... s9 for 30.... does that mean we can 18 coins doing it 3 times? That doesn't seem right... and I'm always confused about this sorta thing EDIT: since we're at it, let's redo the nightfall since we both need the bounty... hell, there are 9 bounties we can do no sweat in time for Xur tomorrow I found the weekly really easy this week. You shouldn't have a problem with it.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 29, 2015 16:22:21 GMT -5
You can only get a max of 9 coins per character per week. That's it. If you do the level 26, for six coins, that means you can only get 3 more coins in the Weekly. You go do the Lv30...you don't get nine coins, you only get three. So question: Mannon and I did the nightfall... he got 10 coins and I got a lowimpact/alreadygone AR. Can Mannon get more coins this week? Or is the 9 coin max weekly only? Mannon can get the coins. He just meant the weekly won't give you extra rewards for doing it multiple times on different difficulty levels.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 29, 2015 16:23:08 GMT -5
I found the weekly really easy this week. You shouldn't have a problem with it. if the hawk says it, it must be true. BTW... interested in carrying Mannon and me through the VOG again? My VOG weapons are itching to kick some oracle ass.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 29, 2015 16:24:48 GMT -5
So question: Mannon and I did the nightfall... he got 10 coins and I got a lowimpact/alreadygone AR. Can Mannon get more coins this week? Or is the 9 coin max weekly only? Mannon can get the coins. He just meant the weekly won't give you extra rewards for doing it multiple times on different difficulty levels. So, he earned 10... he can still get the 9 from the weekly for 19 total? I'm tired from exams this week, so you'll have to excuse my thickheadedness
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 29, 2015 16:28:11 GMT -5
I found the weekly really easy this week. You shouldn't have a problem with it. if the hawk says it, it must be true. BTW... interested in carrying Mannon and me through the VOG again? My VOG weapons are itching to kick some oracle ass. Easiest way would be to wait until you're ready to go and then I can see who's online that's interested in doing it. However, I think you guys should prioritize doing the Crota raid. At this point, we should be able to find people to help you guys through normal mode quickly, and that will net you some of the new raid weapons and raid armor that can get you to level 32, as well as the radiant materials you'll need to level them up.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 29, 2015 16:28:38 GMT -5
Mannon can get the coins. He just meant the weekly won't give you extra rewards for doing it multiple times on different difficulty levels. So, he earned 10... he can still get the 9 from the weekly for 19 total? I'm tired from exams this week, so you'll have to excuse my thickheadedness Yes.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 29, 2015 16:31:24 GMT -5
if the hawk says it, it must be true. BTW... interested in carrying Mannon and me through the VOG again? My VOG weapons are itching to kick some oracle ass. Easiest way would be to wait until you're ready to go and then I can see who's online that's interested in doing it. However, I think you guys should prioritize doing the Crota raid. At this point, we should be able to find people to help you guys through normal mode quickly, and that will net you some of the new raid weapons and raid armor that can get you to level 32, as well as the radiant materials you'll need to level them up. Wanna do both ;> EDIT: but yes, crota is the priority.... I just would like to see how I'd do in VOG with my new toys as opposed to last time where I didn't have them. Plus, I'd like a mythocast and a hawkmoon and a gjalie
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Post by mannon on Jan 29, 2015 16:33:42 GMT -5
With the daily missions, weekly strikes, and raids there are multiple difficulties but clearing it on a higher difficulty will add the rewards for the lower difficulties if you still haven't done them. That's why I usually push to do the weekly on the hardest difficulty, because if you do it on 30 you get all 9 coins and only have to do it once. But if you don't do it on 30 you can only get 6. If you've already done it on 24 and 26, or even just on 26 then you'll only get 3 coins for doing it on 30 because you already got 6. So it's most efficient to go for the highest difficulty you can and just run it once.
Though, there is that Nightfall bounty so that's enough reason to run at least part of it, though I don't think there's much point in actually finishing it. We should just get the bounty, go Leroy Jenkins, and move on.
As for the weekly, yeah let's bring him on. I don't know if he'll be able to run 30 with us, but we could probably do it again at 30 after. Arc burn would certainly help with captains and knights, and Omnigul herself... but honestly I think it's a lot easier on solar burn, because most of the Hive in it use arc attacks. Thrall claws, Knight/Acolyte big fat projectiles, and the wizards bombardment are all arc. It might be a tad harder taking on captains and knights, but we can manage. Even without the burn a FR like murmur set to arc should do the job or at long range even just snipe them. But the wizards will just melt to Ice Breaker. Personally I find them to be the biggest annoyance because they can just pin you down and if you take their shields down but don't kill them they'll go hide. Knights hide sometimes but are usually easier to deal with. If anything it will make that 2nd fight tougher, but it's not a NF so it won't send us to orbit. I say we don't even run fireborn. (Though you might consider sunbro anyway for the solar burn.) I was thinking I'd run the radiance modifier that boosts fireteam's cooldowns and go for generating orbs. Try to trade off supers and just wreck everything at every opportunity.
If all three of us tried to focus our builds on that I bet we could blast the bejesus out of them. (Hell maybe you should try that whole bad juju/obsidian mind thing even?) Lots of options...
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Post by mannon on Jan 29, 2015 16:45:02 GMT -5
Yes 9 coins is the most you can get from the weekly. Any other coins you get are in addition to that, so technically you can get a nearly unlimited number, it's just that the only ways of getting coins other than the weekly depend on RNG unless there's some rare bounties that reward coins or something. I definitely want my 19 for this week. mwahahaha Especially if another good weapon pops up. My plan for now is just to get a bunch then be fairly thrifty with them until Xur sells something nice or I need more exotic shards. Hopefully by the time I need shards I'll have earned enough to keep my total up.
Basically Ice Breaker and Obsidian Mind going up at the same time taught me that I need enough coins to buy both an armor piece and a weapon any given week, or I might miss out like I did on Obsidian Mind. That really hurts because I don't have an exotic helmet, and it would be best to cover all my basis to improve my odds of getting 32 in as few pieces/grinding as possible.
PPS. I don't know what my weekend is going to be like. Looks like we're having company for the Superbowl and I'm going out on Saturday, so between the cleaning, going out, and spending time with GF I don't know what my Destiny time looks like. I will definitely squeeze some in because I think wasting that NF bonus XP would drive me INSANE, but I don't think I'll be able to devote enough time to a raid this weekend unless something clears up. My priority at the moment is weekly and dailies. Those are fairly short, and not too difficult. Dailies for the shards. I'm like two upgrades from level 31!
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 29, 2015 18:41:42 GMT -5
Yes 9 coins is the most you can get from the weekly. Any other coins you get are in addition to that, so technically you can get a nearly unlimited number, it's just that the only ways of getting coins other than the weekly depend on RNG unless there's some rare bounties that reward coins or something. I definitely want my 19 for this week. mwahahaha Especially if another good weapon pops up. My plan for now is just to get a bunch then be fairly thrifty with them until Xur sells something nice or I need more exotic shards. Hopefully by the time I need shards I'll have earned enough to keep my total up. Basically Ice Breaker and Obsidian Mind going up at the same time taught me that I need enough coins to buy both an armor piece and a weapon any given week, or I might miss out like I did on Obsidian Mind. That really hurts because I don't have an exotic helmet, and it would be best to cover all my basis to improve my odds of getting 32 in as few pieces/grinding as possible. PPS. I don't know what my weekend is going to be like. Looks like we're having company for the Superbowl and I'm going out on Saturday, so between the cleaning, going out, and spending time with GF I don't know what my Destiny time looks like. I will definitely squeeze some in because I think wasting that NF bonus XP would drive me INSANE, but I don't think I'll be able to devote enough time to a raid this weekend unless something clears up. My priority at the moment is weekly and dailies. Those are fairly short, and not too difficult. Dailies for the shards. I'm like two upgrades from level 31! If I'm on, send me a party chat invite. Your time is definitely better spent getting chests/drops from the raids than spending time doing the dailies.
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Post by bradman on Jan 29, 2015 18:59:37 GMT -5
I'm definitely planning to run the Weekly. Should be a piece of cake compared to NF... Then again I think it's arc burn and no solar, so that's not great, but the solar really only helped against the shards and wizards. TBH..... because a lot have Arc shields and it's solar burn, it might actually be harder. I was absolutely murdering the Fallen captains with Arc burn and the final part when I was just standing there headshotting Omni with P&T, I was doing a disgusting amount of damage per clip. But if you're up for it, so am I. Hell, let's break bradman's cherry and do it with him. 24 is 3 coins, 26 is 6... s9 for 30.... does that mean we can 18 coins doing it 3 times? That doesn't seem right... and I'm always confused about this sorta thing EDIT: since we're at it, let's redo the nightfall since we both need the bounty... hell, there are 9 bounties we can do no sweat in time for Xur tomorrow Buy me dinner first, and we're on.
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Post by mannon on Jan 29, 2015 18:59:41 GMT -5
Over the span of a couple of weeks, certainly. But I think only a few dailies could probably get me the few shards I still need to hit 31. I might even buy an armor item and break it down for the shards. Or I could break down my alternate legendary gloves... I keep it for a second set of stats but they seem mostly inferior. I can't rememeber what about them made me keep them. I also have 3 sets of legendary boots, but two are Iron Banner so they won't give shards anyway and the other one is a decent alternate stat set. (Two are discipline one is strength I think.)
Anyway, I definitely want to jump into some stuff, but we'll see. Some time may free up.
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Post by wings on Jan 30, 2015 6:00:12 GMT -5
Mk 44 Stand Asides, Don't Touch Me, Starfire Protocol, Dragon's Breath. all DLC items for sale. No heavy ammo synthesis.
Totally RNG.
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Post by tooros on Jan 30, 2015 6:40:24 GMT -5
Don't Touch Me? Excellent. First part of CE now a cakewalk.
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Post by wings on Jan 30, 2015 6:48:43 GMT -5
So Xur has still never sold the Heart of the Praxic Fire or the Skull of Dire Ahamkara. I have both but it would be good to be in games with Warlocks who can produce a fair amount of orbs. Instead if I enter the Raid with Starfire Protocol users it is more of a hindrance because of the ammo bug in the game. Oh and heavy ammo synthesis has not been sold since hard mode Crota's End has been out.
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Post by iw5000 on Jan 30, 2015 6:52:15 GMT -5
Xur - waste of time this week.
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 30, 2015 10:34:47 GMT -5
Mk 44 Stand Asides, Don't Touch Me, Starfire Protocol, Dragon's Breath. all DLC items for sale. No heavy ammo synthesis. Totally RNG. /s Because it's mathematically impossible to randomly pick all DLC items to sell. /s But seriously though...yeah, I don't think there's any way they're NOT hand-picking or otherwise manipulating Xur's inventory at this point. I was all aboard the RNG bandwagon a few weeks ago, but there's just no way they're going to convince anyone that having all DLC items 3 times in 8 weeks is random. Even if it was (and it could be for all we know) nobody would believe it. That makes it all the more aggravating that Xur hasn't had heavy ammo in a while. It's almost unfathomable that they haven't used that as a way to help mitigate the effects of the heavy ammo bug. At the very least let him have it every other week or something instead of once every 4 or 5 or however long it's been now.
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Post by mannon on Jan 30, 2015 10:46:59 GMT -5
Is the exotic RL xur is selling worth getting? It sounds potentially useful for a zoning build, might help at start of CE. Do any sunsinger skills affect the solar flares it leaves behind? (I'm guessing no, but thought was worth asking.)
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 30, 2015 10:54:52 GMT -5
mannon: It's ok I guess if you have coins to spare, but if you don't have a bunch saved up I'd just skip it. It's really nothing special, and you'll be mad if you buy it this week and then something good shows up next week that you suddenly can't afford. From what I've seen, no, Sunsinger perks will not affect anything.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 30, 2015 11:05:29 GMT -5
Is the exotic RL xur is selling worth getting? It sounds potentially useful for a zoning build, might help at start of CE. Do any sunsinger skills affect the solar flares it leaves behind? (I'm guessing no, but thought was worth asking.) Datto called it the worst exotic rocket launcher in the game. Meaning that, while it's not bad, it's not particularly worth it
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Post by markopolo on Jan 30, 2015 11:10:16 GMT -5
So Xur has still never sold the Heart of the Praxic Fire or the Skull of Dire Ahamkara. I have both but it would be good to be in games with Warlocks who can produce a fair amount of orbs. Instead if I enter the Raid with Starfire Protocol users it is more of a hindrance because of the ammo bug in the game. Oh and heavy ammo synthesis has not been sold since hard mode Crota's End has been out. To play devils advocate: 1) Xur did sell the Obsidian Mind, which is very similar to the SoDA (but I fully admit, is not as cool looking) 2) My expertise is limited, but is the HotPF that good? 3) Heavy synthesis is not that rare... shit, I have 36 of them. Buy them from Banshie.
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Post by mannon on Jan 30, 2015 11:20:35 GMT -5
I don't know, been reading up on it on Reddit. Definitely sub par for using it like a regular RL, but those solar flares can be useful. Lots of bosses don't move, for example, and will take lots of extra damage, and I could pair this with a voidfang solar grenade build for massive zoning power. And I did get those 10 coins from NF and can still get 9 more from weekly so I kinda like the novelty.
On the other hand I need another exotic shard now. I decided to spend some of my marks that I couldn't spend on weapons, (because commendations) on some resources and level up some gear. Normally I just go run patrols and farm resources, but I just wanted to do something and didn't have an hour or more to farm so eh... I also know I'll get more marks before I get enough rep for another commendation so I might as well spend some. I've already hit the vanguard marks cap once. So the result is I've maxed out my Claws of Ahamkara and need a shard, plus I leveled up my chest armor to the max without AS and can now use exotic gloves at level 30. Yay!
I think I worked out that if I get my 9 from the weekly I'll have 25, which sounds like a lot, but isn't. That is enough for a shard and the RL, but would leave me only 1 coin going into next week... hmmm... I could wait on the shard and get the RL... Or just skip the RL. Thing is.... I love solar grenades and it kind of really appeals to me.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 30, 2015 11:24:04 GMT -5
I don't know, been reading up on it on Reddit. Definitely sub par for using it like a regular RL, but those solar flares can be useful. Lots of bosses don't move, for example, and will take lots of extra damage, and I could pair this with a voidfang solar grenade build for massive zoning power. And I did get those 10 coins from NF and can still get 9 more from weekly so I kinda like the novelty. On the other hand I need another exotic shard now. I decided to spend some of my marks that I couldn't spend on weapons, (because commendations) on some resources and level up some gear. Normally I just go run patrols and farm resources, but I just wanted to do something and didn't have an hour or more to farm so eh... I also know I'll get more marks before I get enough rep for another commendation so I might as well spend some. I've already hit the vanguard marks cap once. So the result is I've maxed out my Claws of Ahamkara and need a shard, plus I leveled up my chest armor to the max without AS and can now use exotic gloves at level 30. Yay! I think I worked out that if I get my 9 from the weekly I'll have 25, which sounds like a lot, but isn't. That is enough for a shard and the RL, but would leave me only 1 coin going into next week... hmmm... I could wait on the shard and get the RL... Or just skip the RL. Thing is.... I love solar grenades and it kind of really appeals to me. Don't do the RL... save the monies. It's supposedly no better than a purple RL. Not worth the coins From DestniyDB's Should You Buy It?
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 30, 2015 11:30:07 GMT -5
So Xur has still never sold the Heart of the Praxic Fire or the Skull of Dire Ahamkara. I have both but it would be good to be in games with Warlocks who can produce a fair amount of orbs. Instead if I enter the Raid with Starfire Protocol users it is more of a hindrance because of the ammo bug in the game. Oh and heavy ammo synthesis has not been sold since hard mode Crota's End has been out. To play devils advocate: 1) Xur did sell the Obsidian Mind, which is very similar to the SoDA (but I fully admit, is not as cool looking) 2) My expertise is limited, but is the HotPF that good? 3) Heavy synthesis is not that rare... shit, I have 36 of them. Buy them from Banshie. 1. Yup. Obsidian Mind is probably better anyway. Neither HotPF or SoDA is going to help you produce a ton more orbs than you would otherwise. 2. No, at least not from what THebb has said, and he's one of the very few people I know who actually has it. Basically you get to throw 2 or 3 more grenades during your Sunsinger super. You already get to throw 7 or 8 -- is a couple more really that big of a deal? It's not bad by any means, but I think its rarity has led to a lot of people inflating its value quite a bit. 3. Yeah...36 synths ain't shit when you're popping them all the time in Crota's End hard mode, and dropping 10K every couple days to restock is stupid. For anything else, sure, but we shouldn't have to go grind Exclusion Zone for an hour to make up for the synths used while spending an hour fighting Crota.
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 30, 2015 11:32:35 GMT -5
I don't know, been reading up on it on Reddit. Definitely sub par for using it like a regular RL, but those solar flares can be useful. Lots of bosses don't move, for example, and will take lots of extra damage, and I could pair this with a voidfang solar grenade build for massive zoning power. And I did get those 10 coins from NF and can still get 9 more from weekly so I kinda like the novelty. On the other hand I need another exotic shard now. I decided to spend some of my marks that I couldn't spend on weapons, (because commendations) on some resources and level up some gear. Normally I just go run patrols and farm resources, but I just wanted to do something and didn't have an hour or more to farm so eh... I also know I'll get more marks before I get enough rep for another commendation so I might as well spend some. I've already hit the vanguard marks cap once. So the result is I've maxed out my Claws of Ahamkara and need a shard, plus I leveled up my chest armor to the max without AS and can now use exotic gloves at level 30. Yay! I think I worked out that if I get my 9 from the weekly I'll have 25, which sounds like a lot, but isn't. That is enough for a shard and the RL, but would leave me only 1 coin going into next week... hmmm... I could wait on the shard and get the RL... Or just skip the RL. Thing is.... I love solar grenades and it kind of really appeals to me. If you only have 25 coins, just skip Dragon's Breath. You won't be missing out on anything, trust me.
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Post by mannon on Jan 30, 2015 11:45:45 GMT -5
hmm... Okay I guess I will, but if he doesn't sell something better next week I'm going to be kicking myself because I actually would like to try out this RL. It would be my only exotic heavy weapon as well.
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Post by iw5000 on Jan 30, 2015 11:49:05 GMT -5
Is the exotic RL xur is selling worth getting? It sounds potentially useful for a zoning build, might help at start of CE. Do any sunsinger skills affect the solar flares it leaves behind? (I'm guessing no, but thought was worth asking.) I have a fully leveled up Dragon's Breath. It's ok. Thing is, for 99% of what you do, it's more than adequate. It will work. And the solar flare thingy it leaves after explosion, is kind of fun on stationary targets. But it's net effect is just pretty much a different spin on the cluster bombs/wolfpack rounds perk...just a bit weaker. If you have decent Rocket Launcher, one with clusters, and that isn't an Exotic...you'll probably not use the Dragon Breath to much. It will become just a novelty.
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Post by mannon on Jan 30, 2015 12:00:59 GMT -5
I do not have any cluster RL's.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 30, 2015 12:22:32 GMT -5
I've had Dragon's Breath for a while and have not bothered to level it up.
Mannon, since you're only earning coins on one character, I'd advise against it.
What are all of the bosses that don't move around? I can't really think of any aside from Valus Ta'aurc.
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