Advanced Warfare Recoil Plots

[probaddie]

The Lynx plots (post-patch) were revised: I used the wrong CenterSpeed.

[probaddie]

The plots have been updated:

• Submachine Gun and Heavy Weapon plots have been updated to reflect a stealth nerf to Rapid Fire (+20% ViewKick, up from +15%).
  
• Ohm plots have been both fixed - I mistakenly used a CenterSpeed of 1500 instead of 1400 - and updated with the newest variants.
  
• The Lynx - Tack-Driver was missing a plot. That is now fixed. (Thank you, srntener.)
  

[probaddie]

The plots have been updated yet again to reflect a stealth nerf to the Pytaek (-85% ViewKick after the first 12 shots, up from 8 shots)

[ninopettis]

Apr 26, 2015 0:21:40 GMT -5 probaddie said:

The plots have been updated yet again to reflect a stealth nerf to the Pytaek (-85% ViewKick after the first 12 shots, up from 8 shots)

Was it 8 shots? I thought it was 10 shots. I'm sure I'd seen that posted about and in drift0r's videos. Had it always been 8 shots?

[banana]

I thought it was 8 shots too

[probaddie]

Apr 27, 2015 8:50:25 GMT -5 banana said:

I thought it was 8 shots too

It was. Drift0r was going of in-game testing on that, to be fair. He - and others - likely overestimated the actual number because of residual recoil from the previous eight shots.

[banana]

I meant to say 10 lol

[bush911]

Mk14 post patch leads to ae4. You are my bro, bro.

[banana]

Can you update the single SAC3's plots please

[probaddie]

Jun 13, 2015 5:36:02 GMT -5 bush911 said:

Mk14 post patch leads to ae4. You are my bro, bro.

Jul 18, 2015 19:40:13 GMT -5 banana said:

Can you update the single SAC3's plots please

I'm planning a big update tomorrow that will address these issues, as well as bring the entire plot set up-to-date. (I'm adding the STG44 data to my spreadsheet right now!))

[banana]

Awesome

[probaddie]

Jul 20, 2015 21:04:14 GMT -5 banana said:

Awesome

So awesome that it can wait another day? I think so, too!

But in all seriousness, I need to wait for confirmation as to what attachment options are available for the new weapons before I start churning out plots. So yeah, that.

[probaddie]

A major update has been uploaded. In no particular order:

• The MK14 (Post-Patch) link has been fixed. (Thank you, bush911.)
• The MK14 Sheriff had a typo in its title ("Sherrif" rather than "Sheriff"). That is now fixed.
• Plots for the M1 Irons, Blunderbuss, SVO, STG44 and the single SAC3 have been added.
• The Ohm shotgun plots had a mistake: they used the wrong ViewKick values. That is now fixed.
• One degree measurements are more consistently represented from plot to plot. (Still not perfect, though.)
• As per ninopettis' suggestion, the inaccuracy scores are now divided into their separate yaw and pitch components.
• The Ameil pre-rapid fire nerf plots are gone. Because I went full doge. (Seriously, I'll fix this soon. Shut up, LB.)

[kylet357]

For probaddie: I have a question. Let's assume we have two guns that are statistically similar. The fire rate, viewkick, and gunkick numbers are all the same. But what if the Center Speed on one was, for argument's sake, 100 less than the other. How much of a difference would you see in recoil? If there is not much of a difference (to a degree where it's barely noticeable I mean), what center speed reduction would grant a noticeable difference? I'm just curious about this.

[probaddie]

Aug 1, 2015 17:41:55 GMT -5 kylet357 said:

For probaddie: I have a question. Let's assume we have two guns that are statistically similar. The fire rate, viewkick, and gunkick numbers are all the same. But what if the Center Speed on one was, for argument's sake, 100 less than the other. How much of a difference would you see in recoil? If there is not much of a difference (to a degree where it's barely noticeable I mean), what center speed reduction would grant a noticeable difference? I'm just curious about this.

It should be pretty negligible. For one, a 100 deg/s^2 decrease usually represents only a 5-7% overall decrease in CenterSpeed usually. That in itself usually means that you wouldn't see much loss of accuracy.

In general, how much of a penalty it imposes is dependent on the fireTime and ViewKick of the weapon. The math works out so that, to keep a weapon's fireTime the same and scale a weapon's recoil by a factor of r, you have to scale both the CenterSpeed *and* ViewKick by a factor of r^1/2 (square root). It's somewhat counter-intuitive: to reduce a weapon's recoil consistently, you must reduce ViewKick and Centerspeed; and conversely, to increase recoil consistently you must increase ViewKick and CenterSpeed.

The corollary of this is that it's actually impossible to give a hard answer on how much degradation you'll see with a 100 CenterSpeed decrease on any given weapon.

[bush911]

Also, the Pytaek (post-rapid fire nerf) leads to the Ameli (post-rapid fire nerf). And the Ameli (post-rapid fire nerf) leads to pre-rapid fire nerf.

[kylet357]

real video of Baddie when he was a kid

[banana]

Are you lullaby plots with ballistic cpu? It comes with it as an attachment. I'm pretty sure you didn't account for it lol

[banana]

probaddie are you going to do cod 4 plots?

[probaddie]

Nov 6, 2016 18:53:12 GMT -5 banana said:

probaddie are you going to do cod 4 plots?

I can definitely say "maybe".

[banana]

All i ever do is ask for stuff so i apologize but

probaddie Two questions:

1. could you reupload the bo2 plots but with the inaccuracy/accuracy score (whichever is the better one)?

2. Would a 2% increase in centerspeed always yield a less than 2% reduction in recoil? Obv the exact number would depend on the centerspeed but is saying something like a 1% reduction in total somewhat accurate, at least with the common cod centerspeed numbers?

[gearfr33k21]

Nov 12, 2016 13:52:13 GMT -5 probaddie said:

Nov 6, 2016 18:53:12 GMT -5 banana said:

probaddie are you going to do cod 4 plots?

I can definitely say "maybe".

How about ww2?

[banana]

lifes are for weenies