Are hip spread values radii or diameters?

imrlybord7 True Bro Posts: 11,639	Are hip spread values radii or diameters? Jun 24, 2015 17:09:16 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by imrlybord7 on Jun 24, 2015 17:09:16 GMT -5 I'm assuming radii, but idk lol.
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Are hip spread values radii or diameters? Jun 24, 2015 20:56:56 GMT -5

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Jun 24, 2015 17:20:53 GMT -5 Mousey said:

It's degrees from the center.

Radius is sin(hipspread)*distance to target

So how do you calculate the change in area of the circle based on change in degrees? Do you need a distance to target to do that?

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Are hip spread values radii or diameters? Jun 24, 2015 23:16:04 GMT -5

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Jun 24, 2015 22:55:39 GMT -5 Mousey said:

Uh yeah. The area that your bullets can go to gets bigger as you move further away.

If you have it then you just take the other formula and area is pi*r^2

If youre looking to find an effective range of a weapon's hipfire youre basically screwed. Youd need to find the overlap of a player model with the potential hipfire area at a given range, then pick some arbitrary threshold.. Then you have to consider that things like enemy movement,orientation, pitch of the player aiming all affect this as well and it becomes pretty much impossible to get any useful metric out of it.

If you just want a direct comparison of hipfire quality between guns then just compare sin(hipspread)^2 since thats the area's dependance on the hipfire value.

Yeah, that last part. Thanks.

I'm squaring hipspread then taking its sine, right? Not squaring the sine of the hipspread?

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imrlybord7 True Bro Posts: 11,639	Are hip spread values radii or diameters? Jun 24, 2015 23:41:49 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by imrlybord7 on Jun 24, 2015 23:41:49 GMT -5 Well shit. Okay for a spread of 6.8 I got .244 and for 7.65 I got .96. How do I compare those values?
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imrlybord7 True Bro Posts: 11,639	Are hip spread values radii or diameters? Jun 25, 2015 0:07:41 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by imrlybord7 on Jun 25, 2015 0:07:41 GMT -5 So when I divide those and get 1.27 does that mean the smaller one is 27% more accurate? Also if I divide 7.65 by 6.8 and then square that I get pretty much the same answer.
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Are hip spread values radii or diameters? Jun 25, 2015 0:48:00 GMT -5

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1.125^2=1.265

The 6.8 one shoots 8 pellets, the 7.65 one shoots 9 pellets. Going from the Sledgehammer to the Upper Cut you get a 12.5% increase in pellets and a 27% decrease in hip accuracy. From the Upper Cut to the Sledgehammer you lose 11% of your pellets and gain 21% in hip accuracy. The Sledgehammer has no benefits when ADS'd and a slightly worse mobility penalty, but I'm always worried about pulling the trigger before ADS spread occurs.

I play Touch Football (the mode that makes AW playable) so I'm just concerned with landing one pellet. With both variants it's disturbing how possible it is for every pellet to miss from not that far.

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