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Post by Will on Jan 13, 2017 23:52:28 GMT -5
www.titanfall.com/en_us/news/frontier-news-network-6-13/So I've been anxiously waiting for the 2nd DLC release <really, this is the first one, because that Angel City one was just 1 map (copied from the first game) and some camos> As we all know, the maps in Titanfall 2 have been the weakest point (when compared to the first game). I've been able to enjoy them, but they really are getting stale and I've been looking forward to some new ones. So finally we get this announcement... and bam... zero new maps. WUT We get a new pilots-only game mode.... really? I'm firmly in the "we have too many game modes" bandwagon, the player base is already spread way too thin and people are already having issues finding matches for the less popular modes. I'd MUCH rather see them amalgamate multiple game modes into combined, mix-tape style playlists. Here's how I would break it down: 1) Attrition/Bounty Hunt/Hardpoint rotation (not that "Amped" Hardpoint bullshit. And put bots back in) 2) Last Titan Standing 3) Capture the Flag 4) Frontier Defense (WHY ISN'T THIS THE GAME TYPE BROUGHT BACK?) Oh! But there is good news! We get 2 new maps! ... shit, they are both EXCLUSIVELY for the new gametype....... Maybe we'll at least get some new customization options (other than camos).... nope The "make your own mixtape" thing does sound neat, but we'll have to wait and see how it actually works. Hopefully it doesn't just result in putting you into whichever mode you check off that is the most popular (i.e. Attrition). That is why a proper rotating mixtape, like I outlined above, would work so much better. More faction intros is kind of cool, I guess. But they really butchered the immersion with the factions by making the matches confusing and pointless (i.e. why would the 6-4 fight a trillion-dollar battle against the MCOR?). And my teammates don't even see the same faction as me. The first game was really easy to get immersed in, feel like I was a soldier of the IMC fighting the Militia terrorist scum, and I would engage in full-RP pep talks with my teammates. Can't do that anymore, now it's just another arcade shooter with no difference between teams. I rate this "DLC" a solid 0/10, and I haven't even played it yet. Not impressed, Respawn. I would have much preferred to pay for maps if it meant I actually got some new maps...
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Jan 14, 2017 8:05:40 GMT -5
I'm kind of shocked there's nothing on Frontier Defense yet. But the new mode sounds fun. MW3's post launch low player count game modes with exclusive maps was my favorite thing in that game. And another Coliseum map with some columns to bounce off of will be great. I like the choose-your-own variety pack thing too but it remains to be seen if that actually keeps the unloved modes viable. In Rocket League it did often just dump you in the most popular mode but I think they've improved it. Or maybe it's just that RL is hitting all time highs in player counts so there's more going on. The map count compared to Titanfall 1 is dire at this point for sure. I agree about the factions. Titanfall 1 worked better in that regard, and they could have done better including the new factions just by going old-school COD style with set factions on a per map basis.
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Post by lazy on Jan 14, 2017 10:48:17 GMT -5
I said this on TF1 but it's like they released the game unfinished I'd much rather wait a few months and have the complete product. Now it's not just Respawn with this problem we all hear about plenty of games that are unplayable when released. You don't buy a dvd and then have to wait a few weeks to get the ending, or buy a car and have to go back to get the steering wheel. Anyway I liked the sound of the new game mode, but there is no way it should have come before some new maps to play, surely it was harder to make a new game mode and two new maps, than to just freshen up a few old maps. I think the amount of players will drop with some the decisions getting made on this game, I was already bored playing before christmas. While I'm moaning I might as well carry on, people were happy when the stats were available but actually they're pretty shit you can't even compare weapons to each other (unless i'm doing something wrong). So all in all from a business point of view a few people in EA and Respawn need a flipping stern talking to.
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Post by qupie on Jan 16, 2017 8:40:07 GMT -5
I think giving it a 0/10 is kind of overreacting tbh. This game has been out 2.5 months now, and while the DLC's are really small, if they keep up this rate, I am totally fine with small DLC (I mean, COD didn't even have its first). While I would have liked new maps for titans, the new game mode sounds really fun to me, and I prefer to have new game modes sooner than later. I really liked the MW3 3v3 maps/playlist as well, and was kind of bummed it came so late tbh. I am used to having 3 multiplayer maps and a zombie/alien map in a dlc, and for me, these two small DLC combined (for free) are at least equal to that. I don't know what platform you are on, but on PS4 there really is no problem at all with empty game modes. It seems this game mode is going to be great for me, because in all honestly, I don't really like (the way people play) pilots vs pilots. It can be a lot of fun but most of the time it comes down to camp on your own half of the map. This lightning fast rounds with flag cap seems really cool to me, like trials of Osiris. The new mixtape sounds really good to me personally, but we will have to see how it works. It is what the playerbase has been asking for, so I am sure they will do it right, or adjust it properly if it is not. I would personally hate a mixtape like Will proposes, because I really don't like hard point, and prefer bounty hunt over attrition. The other game modes would be as empty as they are now. I want a really mix mixtape. Not a semi mix of game modes which are very similar to eachother. I am all aboard the frontier defense though. I have heard compelling arguments that they shouldn't rush it and make it a duplicate from the last game, because apparently it wasn't as good as people imply (member berries). But I haven't played it, and I would say, just throw it in and improve it later on. It is a great way to give players some way to practice, because this game has a pretty big skill gap. Now, is this game unfinished? No, far from it. The fact a developer keeps adding to a game, doesn't mean it wasn't finished. I think a multiplayer game is never finished, and I personally love that they are giving out small updates at a fast rate (for now) over bigger slower updates. I really don't care about the faction intro's, or the factions at all tbh. One of my least favorite additions in the game, but it doesn't really bother me either. Gameplay >>> Lore I would love to pay for extra maps though, but we shouldn't forget that this game is only out for 2.5 months now, even if it feels a lot longer (gen 9 and still going strong...). All I can do is spend money on (very well priced) cosmetics, to support Respawn and hope they keep supporting and improving this game for a long time. edit: oh yeah, a new coliseum map, that is another thing I really love. I hate this stupid map tbh. 7/10.
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Post by Will on Jan 16, 2017 18:36:49 GMT -5
You like Coliseum? I can't take you seriously now.
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Post by qupie on Jan 17, 2017 7:23:27 GMT -5
Uhm no, I hate it. That is why I love the idea of a new map. I am hoping it will be more of a small 1v1 map with cover and stuff, like the dome level from single player, and normal (r201 or G2?) weapons.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Jan 17, 2017 22:56:58 GMT -5
Coliseum is a great time though, ya crackheads.
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Post by mannon on Jan 23, 2017 10:19:48 GMT -5
I've actually only played attrition and LTS so far, which is more than I did with the first game. ;3 I should branch out and play some bounty hunt. I sort of don't want to. Honestly I miss they way attrition used to be in the first game. In TF2 attrition is really just TDM with a sprinkling of grunts. I guess they toned down the AI's because there was a vocal minority in the community that hated them, but I always figured that's what Pilot vs Pilot was for.
The new mode sounds interesting, though and like it makes a lot more sense than just strait PvP. The normal game is really built around the titans so just taking them out doesn't make for a great multiplayer game. Hopefully the maps aren't tooooo small, though. With mobility what it is in TF2 the maps could get really cramped really quick, and if there's a high density of players that could actually just push tactical loitering so hopefully there are lots of routes and verticality to favor movement.
Still... I doubt I'll play this mode much. Sure it sounds intense, but I really like the titans. I like the sounds of custom mixtape. That also sounds like a great way to get people playing more modes if they'll actually use it. Honestly rather than the different playlists I feel like each mode should just have a checkbox whether you wan to look for games in that mode or not. That way rather than having your time to find a game punished if you do anything besides the most popular modes you're actually rewarded by including as many modes as possible. Being able to prioritize would be nice too, though.
I'd like to see a similar thing with the maps too, though more of a soft preference than a hard ban on specific maps. In other words you just mark which maps you prefer or dislike and the matchmaking would try to cater to those preferences, but only up to a certain threshhold and then it would ignore it in favor of just finding a game. That way it wouldn't have a hugely detrimental effect on matchmaking time. In the first game I feel like it was completely unnecessary, but in TF2 there are definitely some maps I'd rather play less often... not never, but less. That and I don't want to play repeats. Be nice if that were a toggle for players who would be okay with playing the same maps back to back if it means playing their preferred maps. I personally would rather not replay the same map back to back.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Feb 2, 2017 12:18:58 GMT -5
Trailer for Live Fire:
I hope it's good. It could then balance out all the time I've spent in Titans via 75% of my game time in LTS.
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Post by lazy on Feb 3, 2017 4:59:17 GMT -5
It sounds good and the trailer looks good,but trailers always look good so that's no real indication. So all we can do is hope.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Feb 22, 2017 22:16:23 GMT -5
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Post by Will on Feb 22, 2017 23:52:20 GMT -5
Double XP for the new mode all weekend too
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