Apex Legends stats

[Will]

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Old post (inaccurate stats):

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[Pegasus Actual]

That guy has a retarded take on DPS tho, so how can I trust that the rest of the numbers aren't likewise molested?

[Will]

Feb 11, 2019 0:52:44 GMT -5 Pegasus Actual said:

That guy has a retarded take on DPS tho, so how can I trust that the rest of the numbers aren't likewise molested?

Yeah WTF is that explanation? So all encounters only last 1 second? No idea if these numbers are pulled from game data or player testing, if it's the latter I would be very weary

[Pegasus Actual]

Well, you'd have to be even dumber than this guy to mess up testing of these weapons seeing as numbers pop up as you land shots.

Granted, shit like "1 pellet 15, 3 pellets 45" probably isn't going to win him "tech writer of the year" or anything.

Max headshot and RPM seem to have been taken from someone smarter than him, think a Marvel4 to his Drift0r... which might even be an insult to Drift0r. I mean, at least Drifty grasps the concept of rates and wouldn't fuck up DPS like that by hunting for a literal second.

Of course aside from the aforementioned already-borked DPS numbers, the only other interesting thing I'd want to learn is exactly what effects the various attachments apply, since they're not in the training level.

On console this game is kind of an aim-assist team shooting DPS race, on PC it's a bit better.

[qupie]

loving the game so far. Great to see Titanfall is getting some love too due to this publicity.

The weapons seem pretty badly balanced at first sight, but after more games, they are actually really well done. There are some trash level guns (Mozambique, p2020 and to a lesser extend alternator and flatline), some super powerfull ones (mastiff and kraber) and the rest all has its niche, some are better than others (spitfire, R99 and R301 imho) but no single weapon is really awfull. Favorite combos right now for me are G7/Hemlock + R99 or Hemlock/R301 + peacekeeper.

Lvl 51 right now...

[Usagi]

so there's no damage dropoff? that's interesting.

[Will]

Feb 12, 2019 10:15:04 GMT -5 qupie said:

but no single weapon is really awfull

Mozambique would like a word with you

[Pegasus Actual]

I legit skip over the Mozambique even when I don't have another weapon. It's not worth the time wasted stopping to pick the piece of garbage up. I'll grudgingly pick up a P2020.

I'm gravitating towards the R301/Peacekeeper loadout myself. I like sniping but it's usually better to just close the distance and start shotgunning. And having a weapon you can spray after landing a big Peacekeeper shot (or just running out of shots) is key.

I hope first new weapon will be CAR with its trademark pinpoint hipfire.

[Will]

My go-to is Peacekeeper/Wingman, but I also love me some Longbow. Any combo of those 3 works great for me.

I only just today learned how the precision choke actually works on the Peacekeeper (the longer you hold down ADS the tighter the spread gets, it makes a charge up sound so you know. ~2 seconds it's essentially a slug that will 1-shot someone with full armor if you aim at their head).

Wingman is the most versatile weapon, can be used as both a close-range shotgun equivalent and a long range sniper. It just feels so good.

Pinging a longbow headshot almost always knocks the guy down if the rest of your squad has been shooting in their vicinity.



I haven't extensively used everything, but here is my shitty take at a tier list:

S tier: Mastiff & Kraber (obviously)
A+ tier: Peacekeeper, Wingman, R99, Prowler (with select fire)
A- tier: R301, Spitfire, Devotion (with wind up mod)
B tier: Alternator, Hemlok (single fire), RE-45, EVA-8
C tier: Triple Take, Prowler, Devotion, G7
D tier: P2020, Unarmed
F tier: Mozambique

[Will]

docs.google.com/document/d/11-G8P-_YAX7sh_FK409GTOuE1qIGF5kPtfz2pfgx5cY/preview#

This guy's guide is great, especially if you're like me and this is your first venture into a Battle Royale game

[GodMars]

Should I check this out? And who else is playing PS4-side?

[Will]

Feb 18, 2019 18:23:59 GMT -5 GodMars said:

Should I check this out? And who else is playing PS4-side?

I mean, it's free, so yeah. That's kind of their whole marketing strategy here with the surprise release - they just want people to try it out for themselves rather than reading a bunch of reviews that would otherwise write it off because "EA bad" memes.

It's very polished and smooth (as it's just built from Titanfall 2). Best to just think of it as Titanfall 2 DLC - a new game mode. I absolutely despised Battle Royale before this, and I am now fully hooked.

[markopolo]

It's EA... so I gotta ask the lootbox question... how prevelant and essential are they?

[hebbnh]

Not essential at all. No pay-to-win stuff in them, just cosmetics. You can also purchase everything with in-game currency as far as I can tell, apart from a couple store-exclusive weapon skins. I still don't like it because lootboxes are fucking stupid in general, but it's one of the better implementations I've seen.

[markopolo]

.....

It's EA... what's the catch?

[Usagi]

itll change a few months down the line im sure. i dont think ea was expecting this game to explode like it did.

[mannon]

It's also Respawn, though. TF2 had micro trans, but it wasn't cancer. After loot crates became toxic they actually shut down the mobile Titanfall game. (Sadly, I rather liked it, too.)

Besides, if they jump the shark it's not like we paid for the game, anyway. We can just go back to whatever.

I'm playing some. I find the game very appealing. Sadly I do suck at it. Heh In fact I'm still much better at Titanfall 2 despite being about a year out of practice... or more...

[Will]

Headshot stuff and how helmets work:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/at5uu0/current_accepted_helmet_reduction_numbers_are/


tldr = helmets reduce total damage from headshots by 10/20/25%. Skullpiercer adds 40% damage to headshots.

[Will]

I'm bored so I made a legend tier list. As this is a twitch shooter where everyone has the same HP and base movement speed, but different hitbox sizes, hitboxes act like an extra passive skill. Respawn kind of messed up with that one, they gave the smallest hitboxes to the characters who already had the best skills.




Legends

Lifeline: S
Hitbox: A
Passive: S
Ability: S
Ultimate: A
Lifeline's passive is two passives that each are S-tier on their own. They should take away the "fast item use" from her and give it to a new legend, perhaps a backpack-themed packrat type of character. Her shielded fast revive is great enough on its own.

Wraith: S
Hitbox: S
Passive: B
Ability: B
Ultimate: C
Wraith's super small hitbox alone makes her top tier, and a favourite amongst top players.

Octane: S
Hitbox: A
Passive: A
Ability: S
Ultimate: B
Octane's speed boost will give you the edge in every firefight. His trampoline doubles as not just extra mobility for yourself, but you can toss it to downed players on your team to help them get away from being thirsted.

Bangalore: S
Hitbox: B
Passive: S
Ability: A
Ultimate: B
Since the patch her passive only activates when you actually take damage, so it's not as overpowered anymore. It's still the top tier passive though and enough to keep Bangalore as a top pick.

Bloodhound: A
Hitbox: B
Passive: B
Ability: A
Ultimate: S
Bloodhound's ultimate gives faster movement speed for a pretty long time. Movement speed wins firefights because you can juke out enemy fire.

Pathfinder: S/B
Hitbox: C
Passive: F
Ability: S
Ultimate: B
In the hands of a player experienced with the source engine grappling mechanics, this guy can FLY. Coming from Titanfall 2, there is a short learning curve (due to the grapple distance being shorter), but once you get the hang of it this guy is a BLAST to play as, swinging around the map like spider-manbot. Apparently they tightened up his hitbox a bit in the last patch.

Mirage: B
Hitbox: B
Passive: F
Ability: A
Ultimate: C
This passive is 100% useless. His ability is skill based and can be used to great effect in the right hands. His ultimate rarely finds use except for the odd "holy shit" escape moments due to the increased movement speed. His best ability is the confidence you get when you play as him thanks to his voice acting.


Caustic: C
Hitbox: C
Passive: C
Ability: C
Ultimate: C
Bunker is your home.

Gibraltar: C
Hitbox: F
Passive: C
Ability: C
Ultimate: A
Even the best Gibraltar players will have more success using someone else. Hitboxes are too important.

[qupie]

I do think respawn messed up with the hit boxes, but you really think wraith abilities are top tier? I think they are mediocre at best. I would take gibraltar skills over wraiths any day, if it came with wraiths hitbox. Her ability is only good when your team pressures the enemy really well, or you play against a bad team. Following a wraiths blue line is very easy unless the whole enemy team keeps putting agro on you (which will result in a nice 3v2 there). It is a good ability if you need to carry a team, but it doesn't offer much for the team fight in general. I would rate the ability B at best.

In general I agree on your list though, although pathfinder might actually be S tier as well after the last patch. He seems harder to hit than bloodhound. Lifeline might be S+

Good stuff.

What is your favorite weapon combination now? I still like using wingman but R99, R301 and spitfire still own.

[Will]

Mar 25, 2019 3:30:43 GMT -5 qupie said:

I do think respawn messed up with the hit boxes, but you really think wraith abilities are top tier? I think they are mediocre at best. I would take gibraltar skills over wraiths any day, if it came with wraiths hitbox. Her ability is only good when your team pressures the enemy really well, or you play against a bad team. Following a wraiths blue line is very easy unless the whole enemy team keeps putting agro on you (which will result in a nice 3v2 there). It is a good ability if you need to carry a team, but it doesn't offer much for the team fight in general. I would rate the ability B at best.

Yeah, she's only really top tier because of her hitbox, I probably overrated her ability.

In general I agree on your list though, although pathfinder might actually be S tier as well after the last patch. He seems harder to hit than bloodhound. Lifeline might be S+

I think you are right too. I just played a handful of matches with Pathfinder today after reading your post, got two 15+ kill game in a row. I am DEFINITELY feeling my old Titanfall 2 hands coming back to me

What is your favorite weapon combination now? I still like using wingman but R99, R301 and spitfire still own.

Lately I've been trying to hang on to whatever the first two weapons I have in my hands after the initial fights off the drop. It is doing a great job of keeping the game feel fresh. The only weapons I actively avoid hanging on to are the Mozambique and P2020. I usually end up dropping sniper rifles too, although I did have a blast using a Triple Take as a shotgun through some matches.

My favourite and best weapon is the select fire Prowler but I also really like all of the SMGs and the Spitfire.

[Pegasus Actual]

Picked this game back up a little since I had enough APEX BUX from purchasing the Whatever Packs at launch and then not using em on APEX LOOT TICKS to pick up the APEX BATTLE PASS.

I'm really liking Octane. Can't go wrong with a 'go fast' button. Though they do cheat a bit with the FOV trying to make you feel faster than you really are. But I love it for quick aggressive flanks. And at the start of a round, you can lock onto some poor fuck when you have no weapons and just speed boost punch into his back with him having zero hope of getting away.

Weaponwise I like the Longbow. G7 doesn't seem to work at like 200+ meters. Been enjoying the Hemlock as well, the burst fire helps me manage my ammo and focus on aiming in closer range fights. You have to land a lot of rounds to secure a kill, I still find myself overspraying with the likes of the R301 or R99. Spitfire is of course good since overspraying isn't that much of a problem.

I like the 2/4x AOG for my long range weapon and just a 1x or 1/2x AOG for the close range. Used to love the HCOG in the original Titanfall, but I don't like how it looks in the later games, *shrug*. The 6/8/10x zoom levels seem pretty unnecessary, and anything past that 2/4x blocks your peripheral vision. No thanks.

I love R99-ing people with Bangalore through her smokes but I've given up on it on console as that shit tanks the frame rate too much. It's still good fun on PC but I don't have the kind of ROLFstomp teammates in PC land. Are they ever going to do a solo playlist for this game?

[Will]

Mar 28, 2019 8:04:18 GMT -5 Pegasus Actual said:

Been enjoying the Hemlock as well, the burst fire helps me manage my ammo and focus on aiming in closer range fights.

It's like 100x better in single fire than in burst.

I like the 2/4x AOG for my long range weapon and just a 1x or 1/2x AOG for the close range. Used to love the HCOG in the original Titanfall, but I don't like how it looks in the later games, *shrug*.

Polar opposite to me. I despise the holo sights, to the point where I actually prefer iron sights. I will only use the 1x Digital Threat if I find it, or the 1x "classic" hcog. The 2x hcog is somewhat bearable to me on something longrange like a Wingman. All other sights other than those 3 are a hard pass for me.

I love R99-ing people with Bangalore through her smokes but I've given up on it on console as that shit tanks the frame rate too much.

Xbox One X my dude game runs smooth as a butterfly even at 4k resolution, with the exception of the occasional "slo mo" start to a game (about 1 in 20 games, lasts for 1-2 minutes, is universal to everyone in the match)

[Pegasus Actual]

I have a 1X. Smokes + some other action or god forbid someone pops one of those artillery ults and it all goes to shit. I haven't tried Bloodhound recently but at launch he was borderline unplayable since his ult dropped frames massively. The only BR on Xbox that runs at a solid 60fps is BFV: Firestorm, shame about how poorly implemented the rest of that game is. Oh and I would imagine Fortnite holds 60fps pretty solidly but I don't play it so I dunno.

[argyle antiques]

iirc fartnite is capped at 40 fps on console...according to some youtuber who did a comparison video of the potato masher pro gaming pc to console

Edit: just did a quick google search and they upped it to 60 FPS for console in their March update...but they also added that the Xbox version (presumably og xboner) dips down to 50 to 40

[mannon]

If anybody plays Apex on PS4 hit me up sometime. I play it on there, though usually only about once a week, and I'm not great heh. But I guess I know which end of the peacemaker to jam up someone's butthole... (I kid I'm shite with that thing, I need something that doesn't make me wait 2 weeks between my last missed shot and my next one so I can do some damage before I die and a teammate hopefully gets the kill and revives me. heh)

Actually I am getting better, but my aim is still pretty loose as I just don't have the hours. Mostly I go lifeline and try to support my homeys. Won a game this weekend that went great for me! I had 2 kills, which isn't my best, but is better than my usual zero! We won, which was nice. And I had 4 revives! ;3

[Will]

Updated with link to a proper spreadsheet that is being regularly updated. Biding my time until we get some lewd Wattson fanart.