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Post by argyle antiques on Mar 30, 2020 2:31:23 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the MW battle royal mode?
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Post by Den on Mar 30, 2020 23:31:53 GMT -5
Unironically far better than the past several CODs as a COD game, a really good contender in Battle Royale genre for the way it handles getting killed off and encouraging people to actually fight, and not bad in its own right.
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Post by illram on Mar 31, 2020 2:41:29 GMT -5
The only other BR I have played is Blackout, so I can only compare it to that.
Pros: * TTK is better. People die quickly, and while this really sucks when you're getting lasered in half a second from a mile away, it's refreshing to shoot people and have them actually die. * The simplified loot system is cool. I like that you basically just search for money and collect your loadout drops. World loot is really secondary. * Self healing. When I first heard this I thought it would take away part of the "strategy" but I like it better I think. It goes with the simplified system. * The Gulag is neato. * You can ping enemies finally, which Blackout strangely lacked. * It's free and has crossplay, which IW really deserves a ton of credit for finally getting done in COD this cycle.
Cons: * The audio is currently a disgrace and needs major work. It is super inconsistent, certain sounds just drop out if there is too much going on, etc. And they made a big deal of this game having Atmos but that also is terrible and there is no verticality to any of the audio--same problem as Blackout. Still better served just using a "normal" 7.1 virtual surround device or software. * The vehicles need work. The truck is a tank and has a tiny little hitbox for the driver. Grenades don't even kill them, which is silly. You can barely hear them. The list goes on. You don't even get hurt if you jump out at full speed which enables all sorts of shenanigans. * There should be more gun variety on the ground. My cynical opinion is they make the base ground loot mostly trash so people are encouraged to buy the game and rank up their guns in their loadouts (since ranking up guns in Warzone, or even Plunder, takes forever compared to in MP). * I don't know why they have red dots for gunshots. UAV's OK fine, in BO we had the sensor dart, whatever. But red dots for gunfire seems like they're holding everyone's hand.
Could go either way: * The map is huge, and there is a lot of variety, but a lot of the building interiors seem needlessly complicated and there are tons of power tactical loitering locations in the buildings, where it is very hard to dislodge an expert tactical loiterer. E.g. attics with one stairway, the firehouse sniper nests, etc. And the lack of a lot of equipment use in this game means most people are not well prepared to deal with campers. You can't horde a bunch of grenades and tacticals and very few people use launchers much beyond the beginning. Also the central stadium is a waste of space and the circle actually finishes on its roof once in a while, which is a crime. * Not sure about the parachute. I love that it is totally easy to use when you're jumping off stuff, but for the initial plane launch part, it feels a little clumsy getting anywhere far from the initial route.
Overall I feel like the bones of it are solid and the things that are wrong are easy fixes. I do feel like it is harder to win in solos than Blackout for some reason but I am still having (rage inducing) fun.
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Post by exaltedvanguard on Mar 31, 2020 18:03:01 GMT -5
Wait. They have red dots in the battle Royale mode? And no dots in core multiplayer?
Jesus Christ they just get dumber and dumber. What clowns. What absolute buffoons. Every time I think I've heard about the last piece of stupid game design, they manage to come up with something even worse.
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Post by kylet357 on Mar 31, 2020 22:00:39 GMT -5
Wait. They have red dots in the battle Royale mode? And no dots in core multiplayer? Jesus Christ they just get dumber and dumber. What clowns. What absolute buffoons. Every time I think I've heard about the last piece of stupid game design, they manage to come up with something even worse. I mean, i guess tbf Warzone is technically a separate game?
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Post by Broadband on Apr 2, 2020 23:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by argyle antiques on Apr 3, 2020 20:12:41 GMT -5
It's definitely grown on me a lot since day 1. The mid game is more engaging than any other typical looter-shooter BR with the addition of contracts and buy stations. Recently Pegasus Actual, Dumien and I adopted a highly entertaining strategy dubbed "speedrunning" where we vehicle rush as many recon contracts as possible.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Apr 4, 2020 5:37:28 GMT -5
#teamstrong #gimmeplates #legendofthenoodle Final boss unlocked:
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Post by Dumien on Apr 4, 2020 20:55:15 GMT -5
This roguelike RPG is great. Grinding out those early quests make us real strong for the final boss rush.
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Post by argyle antiques on Apr 7, 2020 4:49:32 GMT -5
The munition box is free real estate
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Post by banana on Apr 16, 2020 4:11:51 GMT -5
Warzone is the best be ever made other than prime Fortnite
I run m4 + akimbo snakeshot .357
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Post by kylet357 on Apr 17, 2020 8:39:53 GMT -5
Warzone is the best be ever made other than prime Fortnite I run m4 + akimbo snakeshot .357 Kilo with integral suppressed barrel and 100-rd drum mags with whatever else you want on it is amazing. For secondaries, personally I run akimbo M19s (w/32 round mags) or akimbo Rennetis (w/ 3-round burst and 27 round mags).
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Post by banana on Apr 19, 2020 2:04:49 GMT -5
Warzone is the best be ever made other than prime Fortnite I run m4 + akimbo snakeshot .357 Kilo with integral suppressed barrel and 100-rd drum mags with whatever else you want on it is amazing. For secondaries, personally I run akimbo M19s (w/32 round mags) or akimbo Rennetis (w/ 3-round burst and 27 round mags). What’s your kd btw? I’m on 1.68 I tried the kilo for a while but went back to the m4, the kilo’s recoil is very nice however. Now that I permanently switched to keyboard, even that advantage is irrelevant My m4 setup is: mono suppressor, m16 grenadier barrel, commando Foregrip, 60 rounds, and no stock On controller i used the cqs stock (the other one that increase ads speed) My 357 is: .357 long barrel, 5mw laser, snakeshot, akimbo, lightweight trigger I want to try out the burst renetti but I’m sure snakeshot is better
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Post by kylet357 on Apr 19, 2020 22:32:27 GMT -5
Kilo with integral suppressed barrel and 100-rd drum mags with whatever else you want on it is amazing. For secondaries, personally I run akimbo M19s (w/32 round mags) or akimbo Rennetis (w/ 3-round burst and 27 round mags). What’s your kd btw? I’m on 1.68 I tried the kilo for a while but went back to the m4, the kilo’s recoil is very nice however. Now that I permanently switched to keyboard, even that advantage is irrelevant My m4 setup is: mono suppressor, m16 grenadier barrel, commando Foregrip, 60 rounds, and no stock On controller i used the cqs stock (the other one that increase ads speed) My 357 is: .357 long barrel, 5mw laser, snakeshot, akimbo, lightweight trigger I want to try out the burst renetti but I’m sure snakeshot is better In multiplayer? I'm at a 1.5. For Warzone, almost the same - 1.53 I'll give Akimbo Snakeshot a try next time I'm playing. I have a feeling I won't like it as a much as the Renetti's, just down to the fact that with the Renetti my bullets don't disappear into a void after 10 feet
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Post by kylet357 on Apr 19, 2020 22:33:14 GMT -5
And I mostly use the Kilo because you can get the 100 Round Drum Mags, which are pretty useful for sustained fire.
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Post by qupie on Apr 21, 2020 4:55:53 GMT -5
Give the M13 a try, it's a true laser, especially combined with akimbo snakeshots. I had a lot of fun with a Oden/FAL + MP5 class too, to go little bit off meta. AK with conversion, mono, Romanian, skeleton and grippled/tac laser is the best solo's AR imho. Warzone is the best be ever made other than prime Fortnite I run m4 + akimbo snakeshot .357 I think this is the best "tactical BR" I have ever played. And I sincerely love how they have limited the effect of RNG with the loadouts. However, this game is already starting to bother the heck out of me, tactical loitering and slow play is just far too much rewarded. Even when I try to slow play it, there is always another team that is playing it even slower... If you want the best chance to win the game, you don't engage anyone past the 3rd circle and only move when you have to as late as possible. I don't think that is great design, and partially the armor economy is the problem imho. Dead players should always drop one or a few plates at least to make up for this. I think Apex is still the better BR, but this is a welcome change for a while. I hope the loadout idea gets build on by other BR games.
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Post by banana on Apr 23, 2020 12:36:47 GMT -5
And I mostly use the Kilo because you can get the 100 Round Drum Mags, which are pretty useful for sustained fire. yeah that attachment is pretty cool. I feel like 60 rounds is enough though, considering the 100 round mags' downsides Give the M13 a try, it's a true laser, especially combined with akimbo snakeshots. I had a lot of fun with a Oden/FAL + MP5 class too, to go little bit off meta. AK with conversion, mono, Romanian, skeleton and grippled/tac laser is the best solo's AR imho. Warzone is the best be ever made other than prime Fortnite I run m4 + akimbo snakeshot .357 I think this is the best "tactical BR" I have ever played. And I sincerely love how they have limited the effect of RNG with the loadouts. However, this game is already starting to bother the heck out of me, tactical loitering and slow play is just far too much rewarded. Even when I try to slow play it, there is always another team that is playing it even slower... If you want the best chance to win the game, you don't engage anyone past the 3rd circle and only move when you have to as late as possible. I don't think that is great design, and partially the armor economy is the problem imho. Dead players should always drop one or a few plates at least to make up for this. I think Apex is still the better BR, but this is a welcome change for a while. I hope the loadout idea gets build on by other BR games. i've tried the m13 but i dont think it kills fast enough to warrant using. It's an A tier weapon though for sure. I hope Apex tries out a Gulag system and starting out the game with armor already. Apex's backpack system is very dumb too, everyone should have the max backpack by default.
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Post by -3055- on May 1, 2020 3:00:46 GMT -5
Gruen with skeleton stock is a solid weapon. What's everyone's go-to tier 3 perk? I keep switching between spotter & tracker
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Post by Pegasus Actual on May 1, 2020 12:39:29 GMT -5
yeah that attachment is pretty cool. I feel like 60 rounds is enough though, considering the 100 round mags' downsides Give the M13 a try, it's a true laser, especially combined with akimbo snakeshots. I had a lot of fun with a Oden/FAL + MP5 class too, to go little bit off meta. AK with conversion, mono, Romanian, skeleton and grippled/tac laser is the best solo's AR imho. I think this is the best "tactical BR" I have ever played. And I sincerely love how they have limited the effect of RNG with the loadouts. However, this game is already starting to bother the heck out of me, tactical loitering and slow play is just far too much rewarded. Even when I try to slow play it, there is always another team that is playing it even slower... If you want the best chance to win the game, you don't engage anyone past the 3rd circle and only move when you have to as late as possible. I don't think that is great design, and partially the armor economy is the problem imho. Dead players should always drop one or a few plates at least to make up for this. I think Apex is still the better BR, but this is a welcome change for a while. I hope the loadout idea gets build on by other BR games. i've tried the m13 but i dont think it kills fast enough to warrant using. It's an A tier weapon though for sure. I hope Apex tries out a Gulag system and starting out the game with armor already. Apex's backpack system is very dumb too, everyone should have the max backpack by default. Apex backpack is indeed lame. M13 is great because of how effective it is out past 100 meters, at a little closer ranges you need to go for some headshots if you're trying to trade DPS with a stronger AR, but if you're not getting shot, it's so absurdly good at tracking runners at mid range. And paired with the snake shots is probably my most effective overall kit. FAL makes me sad. Best thing ever in Black Ops 2. Here it's kind of an awkward short to mid range spam gun. Still short a couple of unlocks but with the amount of recoil perks I have on it, it's still not really viable at range with a 3x. Gruen with skeleton stock is a solid weapon. What's everyone's go-to tier 3 perk? I keep switching between spotter & tracker Amped is pretty useful. EOD is more useful than spotter so I just use that. Tracker seems really good too but I need my fast weapon swaps. Im really liking the Grau as a tweener AR/SMG type paired with a sniper. I'm still leveling it so I haven't settled on a final build.
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Post by illram on May 2, 2020 16:55:33 GMT -5
I use amped as I hate dying in those moments where I need to quickly switch to my secondary.
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Post by argyle antiques on May 13, 2020 14:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by qupie on May 15, 2020 7:20:21 GMT -5
Glorious! Always nice to see people whine about being banned, especially if they have spend a lot of money. My 4 warzone BR classes, all have EOD, Ghost, Amped, C4, Smoke and single Renetti (monolithic, burst barrel, lightweight trigger, 27 rounds mag, stippled grip). MP5 + Monolithic integral, merc foregrip, 45 rounds mag, stippled grip, collapsible stock (debating trading something with SoH) RAM7 + Monolithic, ranger barrel, commando foregrip, 50 rounds mag, stippled grip (debating switching to eclipse barrel but like the recoil control) Bruen + Monolithic, 26" summit barrel, tac laser, 3.0 VLK, 60 rounds mag (debating switching to smaller barrel but like the recoil control) HDR + Monolithic, HDR pro barrel, tac laser, FTAC Stalker Stock, 7 round mag MP5 + Bruen or Ram7 + HDR are most of the time the classes I end up with. Once I get my first drop I pick one weapon I have and take a class that pairs well with it. If I don't have anything useful (or come out of gulag) I take the RAM7. I also have a Gulag loadout, but only take that one if I end up on a loadout drop without anything, which is honestly almost never (its the same as my ram7 class but with fully loaded on both AR and pistol) My main mindset for these classes is to try and limit the number of weapons. I also had a MP7 and M4 class before (MP7 pairs nice with sniper too, and M4 pairs nice with RPG). But I learned that you can better have a slightly less optimal weapon you are used to, than a slightly more optimal weapon you are not used to. So I try to stay with these 4 weapons. Ram and Bruen have a fairly comparable recoil direction too. What classes do you guys have the most succes with now? P.s. these are the best stats I found: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11yTy4RcH6-8dSzgfODmMz-Yy8dgc1arfxm0ynfQbMY8/htmlview#All things considered though, I am starting to hate the campy nature of this game . I died 3 times this week by a squad that was chilling in an attic for at least 5 minutes without even peaking the windows, in the 2nd circle... I bet I am back in apex within a month.
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Post by Will on May 23, 2020 4:54:45 GMT -5
The meta, since launch, has been RPGs, and continues to be so, even with the latest "nerf" (which actually turned out to sort of be a buff. radius went from 10m to 9m, but damage increased). The reason RPGs are broken in warzone is because you can carry 7 rockets, and shoot them every 1.5 freaking seconds with Amped (1s reload, .5s ADS time). Nobody stands a chance. Clears out those attic campers you are bothered by very effectively. In my squad we usually roll with two snipers and two rocketbois, though sometimes we just Foxtrot around and go with all 4 of us using rockets. They're that good. We buy a munitions box every time we pass a buy station, and usually will carry a 2nd one with us, to keep refilling those rockets. I've had several 20+ kill games where the majority of the kills came from RPGs. Seeing a red vehicle pop up on my minimap makes my pants tighten.
My perks/equipment on all classes: EOD, Ghost, Amped, Stun/HB, C4
RAM: Monolithic, Eclipse barrel, commando foregrip, 50 round mags, tac laser Grau: Monolithic, Nexus barrel, commando foregrip, 60 round mags, tac laser M4: Monolithic, Corvus barrel, commando foregrip, 60 round mags, tac laser
All 3 AR classes have RPG secondary
MP7: Monolithic, Ranger barrel, merc foregrip, 60 round mags, stippled grip P90: Monolithic, Retribution barrel, fly strap, stippled reargrip, sleight of hand
Both SMG classes have a pistol with the fully loaded perk. As pistols/SMGs share ammo, this means I don't have to give up an attachment on my primary. I usually choose the MP7 class when dropping back in later in the game and ammo is less plentiful. First kill I get I swap the pistol for an RPG (as everyone else rolls RPGs too, every corpse has one on it)
I barely use the M4 and P90, I just made those classes so I can troll with pink tracers. But my go-to is definitely the RAM-7 (green tracers). I'll be switching to using the Grau more often than the RAM once the purple tracer pack for it drops next week. I'm a sucker for tracers, pewpewpew. Speaking of which, this game has a great shop model, it's already tricked me into spending more on here in 2 months than I did on Apex in 1+ year.
I also think this game is vastly inferior to Apex Legends. But it has cross platform, and with our hockey season cancelled in the lockdown, my team all started playing video games together to fill the void. But we're all on different platforms, so this game gets our time. Respawn really Foxtroting the dog not having cross platform after 1+ year of "working on it".
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Post by qupie on May 25, 2020 4:34:07 GMT -5
Oh yeah RPG are a supreme anti camper tool. I honestly don't mind actual power position campers though, that hold a power position and defend it, part of BR imho. My problem is with whole teams that just sit on a random attic and wait until you walk upstair unknowingly.
My last experience was like:
Oh there is a team 100 meter behind us, we can gate keep them over there in that village.
1 minute later: let's cut them off over there, I will get high ground in that attic
10 seconds later, whole team sitting in that house, not peaking out for the past 30 seconds we walked around the house etc.
Honestly, I haven't really used RPG yet, I don't really like using it. C4 though, yeah baby.
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Post by Will on May 29, 2020 8:13:03 GMT -5
Here's just a few settings I've found work great for me (on console)
Film grain: off Motion blur: off Weapon blur: off Minimap: square Audio mix: midnight
Aim assist: standard Response curve: dynamic Use/reload: contextual tap Depleted switch: disabled
The lack of a FOV slider on console is painful. I get really dizzy inside buildings sometimes. And for a game that has forced crossplay, that's not really fair that PC players can adjust FOV but console players cannot.
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Post by illram on May 31, 2020 17:36:11 GMT -5
I am having a hard time justifying using anything other than the M4+RPG. I was definitely running akimbo snakeshots until they nerfed them. The M4 is just so versatile at both short and long ranges, and as for the RPG, I get at least 2 or 3 kills every match just killing vehicles with them. There are games where I'll be in a firestation tower or rooftop and literally run out of all 7 rockets because I killed so many passing vehicles.
I used both the RAM and Grau for a while but have basically settled on the M4. I don't see a point in using anything else other than boredom with the M4. I'll snipe sometimes if I find good ground loot sniper rifles.
I run Ghost, Amped, Cold Blooded with a HB and C4. Probably will switch to EOD. Do bounties or recon contracts on the drop, get my free loadout, then just move from prime circle positions as necessary until I hopefully get the last kill, or troll around the map jumping out of my truck at full speed killing everyone who decides to try and shoot me. (That is such a cheesy maneuver and it works 9/10 times, why don't they do it like Blackout and make it kill you if you jump out fullspeed?)
I will prioritize bounties all game even if it is just so I know where that person is or to deny another player the bounty contract.
I am probably gimping myself but I don't find myself buying much stuff. I'll buy UAV's opportunistically and sometimes armor if I am desperate, or my loadout if I screwed up and didn't get my first one or came back from the Gulag. I really never buy killstreaks and I can count on one hand out of hundreds of games where self revive has actually paid off for me.
On PC, I find messing with Nvidia global color settings for the display helped with crappy visibility. Basically eliminates the need to use their in game filters setting which was ruining my FPS.
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Post by qupie on Jun 3, 2020 4:28:16 GMT -5
Here's just a few settings I've found work great for me (on console) Audio mix: midnight Agreed on all other settings and the FOV slider. But why did you pick this audio setting? I have been going back and forth, not sure which one is best. I really think it depends on the sound signature of you headphones too. What kind of setup do you use? Care to elaborate further on why you made this choice?
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Post by Will on Jun 8, 2020 21:02:01 GMT -5
Agreed on all other settings and the FOV slider. But why did you pick this audio setting? I have been going back and forth, not sure which one is best. I really think it depends on the sound signature of you headphones too. What kind of setup do you use? Care to elaborate further on why you made this choice? I don't know if there is one audio mix that is universally "best", the audio in this game is balls, all around. I've seen different pro players & streamers recommend all different sound settings. For me, I like Midnight because it seems to quieten a lot of the louder sounds, which in turn means I don't talk into my microphone as loudly, which is great because I do my gaming when my kids are napping. I use a Lucidsound LS35X headset: lucidsound.com/products/ls35x-wireless-surround-sound-gaming-headset-for-xbox-one
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Post by Will on Jun 8, 2020 21:06:14 GMT -5
I used both the RAM and Grau for a while but have basically settled on the M4. I don't see a point in using anything else other than boredom with the M4. Though you definitely can't go wrong with the M4, since the purple tracers have come out I've been using the Grau almost every game, and I now understand why the pros/streamers love it so much: - The BEST iron sights in the game, whether you go with the Archangel or the Nexus barrel. It's like getting a free red dot sight (better than some sights, even) - The lowest recoil of all the ARs. M13 is close, but I find the Grau's even easier to control (both are laser beams though). You can compete with snipers at 100m+ with the Grau, it's that good The TTK is horrible though at CQB range, it gets beat by just about everything. That is where the M4 & RAM shine - they can compete with SMGs up close. I see a lot of people pair the Grau with a MP5/MP7/P90. But Rockets are still too good to give up
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Post by illram on Jun 11, 2020 18:05:56 GMT -5
Yeah the Grau is great since it is so versatile with the iron sights and low recoil. Its irons are basically an ELO sight which was my most favorite sight in any COD. I'm surprised they have not slightly nerfed its recoil to be honest, it is basically the only gun I see people using now.
On a different note, the devs decided to just totally remove ALL vehicles from solos without mentioning it anywhere in the patch notes (WTF?). Kind of a huge change to just dump on everyone without explanation.
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