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Post by wittyscorpion on Aug 10, 2012 13:31:38 GMT -5
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 10, 2012 13:32:38 GMT -5
Moneybuck season for Activision.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 10, 2012 13:34:12 GMT -5
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Post by pooneega on Aug 11, 2012 10:19:52 GMT -5
Good to see early signs of a strong Halo 4 following. I plan on getting back into the Halo scene with my friend I played Team Doubles with back in the day for Halo 3.
The amount of customization for BlOps 2 has me interested and I hope this game goes over well. My interest in COD is most certainly dying and its gonna take a dern solid game to keep me around.
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Post by noscreenname on Aug 11, 2012 11:20:25 GMT -5
I'm waiting to see if support streaks are back before I preorder blops2. Might be the only factor to keep me from buying it.
Nah, I'll still get it, I'll just b1tch about it.
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Post by noscreenname on Aug 11, 2012 11:44:36 GMT -5
Didn't say I hate it. That is just one aspect that I never liked about mw3 since I heard about it. Just still trying to understand how you call something a streak when there is no actual streak involved. It is just a progression not a streak in the cod sense of the term.
There are still plenty of pros compared to the cons involved in my cod experience. Plus anyone on this board is probably a big enough cod junkie like I am to buy basically anything they put out. I actually like what I have seen in black ops two and am hyped to see more. I say that with a grain of salt though because I say that every year but mw3 has definately not been in the top three experiences of cod games in my opinion.
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Post by Morshu on Aug 11, 2012 12:10:28 GMT -5
Just get rid of the EMP/Lethal killstreaks in support package and deathstreaks.
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Post by Broadband on Aug 11, 2012 15:39:27 GMT -5
I'll probably get Black Ops II, but Halo 4 is definitely gonna get more playtime.
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Post by mw2baller on Aug 12, 2012 19:50:32 GMT -5
Unless BO2 is both really polished and innovative, i'm not gonna touch it. What I want:
-fixed spawns
-fixed lag
-good maps
-good balance
-a bunch of innovative features. Not just a new game mode, new guns, new killstreaks, and some new equipment.
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Post by Marvel4 on Aug 12, 2012 19:53:25 GMT -5
Won't happen on consoles without dedicated servers.  |
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 13, 2012 10:27:05 GMT -5
Didn't say I hate it. That is just one aspect that I never liked about mw3 since I heard about it. Just still trying to understand how you call something a streak when there is no actual streak involved. It is just a progression not a streak in the cod sense of the term. There are still plenty of pros compared to the cons involved in my cod experience. Plus anyone on this board is probably a big enough cod junkie like I am to buy basically anything they put out. I actually like what I have seen in black ops two and am hyped to see more. I say that with a grain of salt though because I say that every year but mw3 has definately not been in the top three experiences of cod games in my opinion. I personally thought MW3 is one of the best CoD games ever made, even with it's negative points. And even if you felt it wasn't one of the better CoD games...what is often not said is this.... ....MW3 and CoD games in general....even on their worst day, are still better than just about every other FPS shooter out there. Which is why people who come online and gripe, say they hate it....then 30 minutes later get online and play. The game, even with its negative points, is still completely heads and tails above all it's competitiors. |
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 13, 2012 11:55:46 GMT -5
Eh, I see where you're coming from but I disagree with just about all of that. For every 100 people who complain, whine and say they will never play CoD again, not going to buy the new Blops 2........ ....95 of them are playing again within a day, and 98 of them will be buying Blops2. |
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Post by cmck on Aug 13, 2012 13:29:30 GMT -5
99.8% of statistics are made up.
If you want to confirm this its in the big book of shit I pulled out of my ass.
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 14, 2012 9:51:42 GMT -5
And I will not be one of them. Up to MW3, I've been sure about buying CoD right up until I get them. I've been sure since I didn't like Blops that I wouldn't get whatever 3arc handed me next, and the flashy trailer hasn't changed that. But hey, don't let me stop you from pulling stats out of your ass. The point isn't to say my '95' isn't right, it really should be 93.65, and now let's argue over that number........it's the overall point i made. MOST people who complain and whine on a message board about CoD games, are right back to playing them very soon. You know this is true. We all know this true. If someone has already taken the time to register, log in, take the time to post their thoughts, has many posts..... .....they are already hooked on the game, and MOST of those people aren't going anywhere, despite how much whining they do about how they aren't going to get the next game. You know i am 100% correct there. And if you don't want to buy BLOPS2....don't buy it. I don't give a rat's azz what you do. You won't be missed at all. Most likely the game is going to be very solid, very playable, tons of fun, and heads and shoulders above anything else going on in the modern combat FPS arena. If you want to sulk on the sidelines, playing something else, saying a game YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED YET (let alone has even read a review) sucks....go right ahead. Seems a bit silly to me. So rather than 12 million people playing the first few weeks, there will only be 11,999,999 instead. No skin off my back. I'll never even know you never bought it. |
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 14, 2012 10:08:12 GMT -5
Yeah yeah. I got no doubt that there'll be plenty of newcomers/old hats sticking with Cod. Despite everyone's complaining, CoD's one of those games where a lot of players act like they'll hate it, buy it, play it every day, and about it every day too...then repeat. I'm just sick of that, and since this one came out, I'm seeing a lot of people saying that they mainly stick to an older installment. I'm gonna venture to say that this'll be the first CoD to not outsell its predecessor, but hey what do I know. EDIT: I really am basing my judgement on previous installments. I didn't really like CoD3, W@W, or Blops. So I'm just not gonna buy the next treyarch game. Saying this installment won't outsell it's predecessor really isn't sticking your neck out on the line. Each succeeding game has had a lower gap (distance) over it's predecessor. MW3 (27 million?) just barely outsold Blops2 (26 million) The reality is, ...the PS3/360 are long in the tooth, and so is the franchise on those consoles. One just isn't going to see explosive growth gains that were seen with MW1 and MW2. It physically can't happen. Game sales/Users are ultimately in lock step with new console buyers....and that growth isn't what it used to be. When it grinds to a very slow growth......ultimately, everyone who wants to play CoD, will already have it. if Blops 'only' sells 22 million....it will probably still triple the sales of what Halo does. |
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 14, 2012 10:14:38 GMT -5
Oh yeah definitely, but it's just falling now. Every game does that though. Halo's lost its touch, same goes for Tony Hawk, Guitar hero, and every other game that pumps out sequels. Eventually people get sick of it. And that's when the series will need a serious revamp, or at least need to stop being annualized. CoD has something TonyHawk and Guitar Hero don't have.... social networking. People might grow a little tired of the game, but will return, as they don't want to miss out hanging out with their bros, and killing people. The Elite stuff, clan stuff Activision did.....probably extended this game's life by a good bit. |
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 14, 2012 10:20:28 GMT -5
That's definitely true. I pretty much only bought blops because everyone I f ucking knew did as well. That didn't last though. They do seem to be pushing more towards the competitive scene with CoD though, what with elite to start with. Blops2 looks like they're really gonna set the bar for the Touch Football players. By all means, all the power to them. I don't really think they are doing that. I think it's more a case that they are simply giving one part of the community....something that has been woefully lagging...a new environment. New people, casual people, those types....their 'game' that they like is still going to be exactly the same. Nothing has changed. It just seems like all that's going to happen is the try-hards (like me) will be given some more options to fuss over things. Win/win...imho. |
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 11:48:20 GMT -5
MW3 vs BO: BO was far more skill based in both encounters and tactics.
BO2 will hopefully continue this trend. As someone has stated before, IW = Casual oriented, 3arc = Balanced
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Post by wittyscorpion on Aug 14, 2012 11:56:26 GMT -5
@mousey: I see that you have a history of negative experiences with 3arc's COD games. I have not played any of them so I can't comment. However, it is my impression that they have been making significant leaps for each new title (both quality improvement and innovations), based on the review scores and sales figure. IW on the other hand, have been riding the success of MW1 through MW2 and MW3, not a lot of innovation in comparison. BO2 "could" be the title for 3arc to finally take over the leadership and become the "flagship" in COD making. So at least keep an open eye on it. you are wondering what "innovative features beyond just weapons / perks / killstreaks", below are some info from CharlieINTEL: www.charlieintel.com/2012/08/14/black-ops-2-multiplayer-gameplay-videos-detail-screenshots-more/10-Point Create-a-class -Treyarch describes as “Pick 10″. -”Pick 10 lets players take any 10 pieces of content from the game, including weapons, weapon attachments, perks, grenades or equipment, and assign them to a pre-determined slot.” Livestreaming You can now livestream from your console. New Gamemodes Hardpoint -King of the Hill moving hot zone Multi Team Deathmatch -6 Teams max, 18 Players Leagues Leagues are a skill-based matchmaking system that puts players into divisions based on skill. Scorestreaks -The new killstreak system based on points. -There are 22 score streaks in the game. Wildcards -”Uses one of the 10 allocation points, let you “bend the rules”. They can let you take two perks from the same category, or add a third attachment to your gun.” |
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Post by daftpunk on Aug 14, 2012 11:57:26 GMT -5
I'l wager my house , the wife and weans and the shirt off my back that mousey gets blops2 ...
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Post by cmck on Aug 14, 2012 12:05:45 GMT -5
I'l wager my house , the wife and weans and the shirt off my back that mousey gets blops2 ... Won't saying that where he can see it make him more determined not to buy it? I thought that was the reason you make bets on people behind their back unless its something they always try on but don't actually succeed on all the time. |
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 14, 2012 14:09:56 GMT -5
@mousey: I see that you have a history of negative experiences with 3arc's COD games. I have not played any of them so I can't comment. However, it is my impression that they have been making significant leaps for each new title (both quality improvement and innovations), based on the review scores and sales figure. IW on the other hand, have been riding the success of MW1 through MW2 and MW3, not a lot of innovation in comparison. BO2 "could" be the title for 3arc to finally take over the leadership and become the "flagship" in COD making. So at least keep an open eye on it. Blops was FUN. It was a kick-azz game. The maps were awesome and well, all around, everything about the package was great. Blops also had more innovation than what MW3 did. That said, MW3 had some really nice things going for it, even though it was kind of a 'MW2.5 type of game. The support streaks, gun profiencies, point system on getting KS (which helped Dom players like me), plus the customizable class loadouts....some great things in this game. But Treyarch is the innovator of the two companies now. And from what I am reading, Blops 2 seems like it's going to have a ton of stuff in it, in terms of innovation. How could anyone NOT be excited about this stuff? From the campaign, to the Bots2, to the Zombies, to the better theater mode, to the LiveStreaming, new competive leagues, .....and well, all the multiplayer stuff now being discussed. Sorry...but even if you only casually liked CoD....you would be a fool to not buy this game, based on Treyarch's track record and what i am hearing so far. |
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 14, 2012 14:43:06 GMT -5
@mousey: I see that you have a history of negative experiences with 3arc's COD games. I have not played any of them so I can't comment. However, it is my impression that they have been making significant leaps for each new title (both quality improvement and innovations), based on the review scores and sales figure. IW on the other hand, have been riding the success of MW1 through MW2 and MW3, not a lot of innovation in comparison. BO2 "could" be the title for 3arc to finally take over the leadership and become the "flagship" in COD making. So at least keep an open eye on it. Blops was FUN. It was a kick-azz game. The maps were awesome and well, all around, everything about the package was great. Blops also had more innovation than what MW3 did. That said, MW3 had some really nice things going for it, even though it was kind of a 'MW2.5 type of game. The support streaks, gun profiencies, point system on getting KS (which helped Dom players like me), plus the customizable class loadouts....some great things in this game. But Treyarch is the innovator of the two companies now. And from what I am reading, Blops 2 seems like it's going to have a ton of stuff in it, in terms of innovation. How could anyone NOT be excited about this stuff? From the campaign, to the Bots2, to the Zombies, to the better theater mode, to the LiveStreaming, new competive leagues, .....and well, all the multiplayer stuff now being discussed. Sorry...but even if you only casually liked CoD....you would be a fool to not buy this game, based on Treyarch's track record and what i am hearing so far. I'd say thats going a bit too far. Sure it sounds cool now, sure it makes sense, perks seem balanced, innovation etc. in the end the game might very well be (sorry, i couldnt stop myself from using this quote) "miserable failure", as in the innovating mechanics not fitting, the game being broken, perks/guns/killstreaks dominating over others etc. While it may not happen(and i do believe 3arc will deliver) some people take the following as an explanation, and it is logical, since some people were less then satisfied with previous CoD games. So that may be a reason not ot get BO2. I am 100% certain i am getting it though, even if its just for zombies. |
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 14, 2012 15:02:25 GMT -5
Well...yeah...the game 'could' flop from a technical standpoint. Anything is possible.
But really, why even think that? Does anyone really think the world's most popular franchise, owned by Activision, that brings in well over a billion in revenue, run by one of the industry's best companies (3A) is going to flop on technical matters, not work? I don't.
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 15:05:42 GMT -5
Black Ops 30fps framerate says hello
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 15:07:29 GMT -5
Not in a competitive game
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 15:11:36 GMT -5
Maybe your eyes suck. 60 fps vs 30 fps is night and day.
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 15:20:12 GMT -5
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 14, 2012 15:25:39 GMT -5
its not the same, but saying that 1/30th of a second is gonna screw you up is beyond exaggeration. Agree |
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 14, 2012 15:29:53 GMT -5
Half a second or more, can very easily screw you up, even if your enemy stinks of rotten eggs. Countless situations where i see first, shoot first, die. I feel kinda bad for mmacola though.
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