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Post by wittyscorpion on Aug 14, 2012 11:05:20 GMT -5
UPDATE: an article that provides more insights about the new features: www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/8/14/3239603/call-of-duty-black-ops-2-multiplayer-custom-classes-perks-scorestreaks--- UPDATE: more info from CharlieINTEL: www.charlieintel.com/2012/08/14/black-ops-2-multiplayer-gameplay-videos-detail-screenshots-more/New innovative features beyond just weapons / perks / killstreaks: 10-Point Create-a-class -Treyarch describes as “Pick 10″. -”Pick 10 lets players take any 10 pieces of content from the game, including weapons, weapon attachments, perks, grenades or equipment, and assign them to a pre-determined slot.” Livestreaming You can now livestream from your console. New Gamemodes Hardpoint -King of the Hill moving hot zone Multi Team Deathmatch -6 Teams max, 18 Players Leagues Leagues are a skill-based matchmaking system that puts players into divisions based on skill. Scorestreaks -The new killstreak system based on points. -There are 22 score streaks in the game. Wildcards -”Uses one of the 10 allocation points, let you “bend the rules”. They can let you take two perks from the same category, or add a third attachment to your gun.” ----- In another discussion thread you have seen the list of perks, weapons, scorestreaks, etc. In the YouTube video below, you'll see a sneak peek of the new "10 point" loadout and description of how "scorestreak" works (hint: strongly encourage team play), with MP play as background.
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Post by batman on Aug 14, 2012 11:08:28 GMT -5
Here's a compilation of some of the released gameplay since a lot of it has been taken down.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 14, 2012 11:09:02 GMT -5
Is that a machine pistol?
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Post by wittyscorpion on Aug 14, 2012 11:32:36 GMT -5
Is that a machine pistol? From the appearance it looks like the PM-9 in MW3.
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Post by Marvel4 on Aug 14, 2012 11:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 11:51:24 GMT -5
For Foxtrots sake, instaknife
Massive disappoint
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 14, 2012 11:54:17 GMT -5
The game will mete out weapon and gear purchases by giving players one token each time they level up, which they can spend on new weapons, equipment, and perks. By the time players reach level 55 and have cashed in all those tokens, Vonderhaar says, players still won't have unlocked and seen everything multiplayer progression has to offer.
Well that fucking stinks. I guess it gives some point in prestige. Assault Shield looks cool. Score streaks seem fine. Knife... yeah, still instant OHK with auto aim.
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Post by cmck on Aug 14, 2012 11:58:21 GMT -5
Prestiging...... is mandatory? I feel bad for the people that don't want to.
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 14, 2012 12:07:42 GMT -5
Prestiging...... is mandatory? I feel bad for the people that don't want to. mememememememe. It may have some point unlike in say, MW3 where its Same Shit Different Day. I just hope they have a lot of stuff in the game so this mechanic works better. CoD points were better imo.
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 12:18:37 GMT -5
Yeah at least you unlock something useful with prestige now. I guess I wont hate it so much.
But things that really suck:
1: Knife 2: DVK 3: 3HK/No recoil 4: Laser Sight 5: Those sights
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 14, 2012 12:28:05 GMT -5
Yeah at least you unlock something useful with prestige now. I guess I wont hate it so much. But things that really suck: 1: Knife 2: DVK 3: 3HK/No recoil 4: Laser Sight 5: Those sights The first 3 things remind me of the original Blops... and MW3.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 14, 2012 12:40:48 GMT -5
Does that mean stuff won't reset after prestige?
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 12:44:04 GMT -5
I get by with 5. Sometimes I want more, but with such crappy weapon balance 5 is all you really need.
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Post by mmacola on Aug 14, 2012 12:49:06 GMT -5
No biggie with a knife that kills to the back and may worth a class point or not.
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 12:51:17 GMT -5
You only get a combat knife if you dont have a primary or you dont have a secondary. The regular knife is still there. It may not kill in 1 hit to the front though.
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Post by mmacola on Aug 14, 2012 12:59:00 GMT -5
^ How come? I believe in the trailer the guy shoots his shotgun magnum and then pull out a knife. Or do you mean when he has only one of those?
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 13:01:17 GMT -5
Yeah, if you have both you sitll have panic knife.
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 14, 2012 13:03:06 GMT -5
1: I think you can no longer reflex knife someone if they shoot you in the process, so it's only good for stabbing someone in the back. If you have your knife out, you won't be interrupted. Don't quote me on this though.Disregard that, completely misunderstood. 2: DVK is great. Makes hardened useful and reduces frustration from getting railgunned. 3: Recoil and damage looks fine, or at least consistent with past titles. 4: Nothing wrong with a laser sight. It's steady aim as an attachment. Big whoop. 5: Sights look fine.
The whole can't unlock everything in one prestige thing kind of bothers me, but I'm not sure exactly how it works so I'll hold off judgement.
EDIT: The logical implementation of this would be that Prestiging no longer forces you to unlock stuff again, so that you can keep unlocking stuff as you level up. This would remove the downside to prestiging AND actually make it worthwhile.
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Post by asasa on Aug 14, 2012 13:08:30 GMT -5
2: DVK is a complete bullshit mechanic that brings a massive amount of luck into gunfights. Chance for free headshots, or complete misses, which are in no way controlled by either player.
3: Past titles were too strong/too low
4: Yeah... like we needed steady aim for sniper rifles? Also appears to be steady aim pro. Bullshit.
5: OP.
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Post by batman on Aug 14, 2012 13:13:16 GMT -5
Dexterity has steady aim pros effect not the laser sight.
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 14, 2012 13:17:04 GMT -5
2: DVK Recoil is a complete bulldoo-doo mechanic that brings a massive amount of luck into gunfights. Chance for free headshots, or complete misses, which are in no way controlled by either player.
3: How can past titles be either two strong AND too weak? There has been just about every possible combination to 2-6 HK weapons in every game since CoD4, both with and without Stopping Power.
Basically, game would only be completely skill based if everyone used silenced MP7s with Focus.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Aug 14, 2012 13:25:14 GMT -5
UPDATE: an article that provides more insights about the new features: www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/8/14/3239603/call-of-duty-black-ops-2-multiplayer-custom-classes-perks-scorestreaksI have to admit that I am thrilled by the following: - the flexible "pick 10" loadout creation system;
- the scorestreaks that encourage players to play for the objectives and win, not being selfish and conservative;
- the clear separation of perks (no impact on weapon enhancement) vs. attachments (focus on weapon enhancements)
- multi-team MP (to have fun with friends when only having a small party, and not to worry about having a no-mic-screwing-around random on the team)
- skill-based league play, provided that they can pull it off (this is a big "if" at this moment"
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 14, 2012 13:36:52 GMT -5
[/li][li] the scorestreaks that encourage players to play for the objectives and win, not being selfish and conservative; [/quote] I wouldnt be too sure about that. Still it doesnt end up completely ignoring objective play like pre-mw3 games, so at least it gives some incentive to capping dem flags.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Aug 14, 2012 13:53:21 GMT -5
[/li][li] the scorestreaks that encourage players to play for the objectives and win, not being selfish and conservative; [/quote] I wouldnt be too sure about that. Still it doesnt end up completely ignoring objective play like pre-mw3 games, so at least it gives some incentive to capping dem flags.[/quote] You are right. "Streaking" is necessary so the players have to stay alive. So selfish and conservative mind set won't change dramatically. Given the fact that the "support" pointstreaks in MW3 did not have great reception from the community, this scorestreak idea can work out better. Anybody know whether you can customize the scorestreaks per loadout, or can only have an universal one across all classes?
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Post by iw5000 on Aug 14, 2012 13:59:37 GMT -5
There's a lot of big stuff here.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 14, 2012 14:01:50 GMT -5
couple of questions.
1. Is that assault shield considered to be a primary? 1. What's that sniper rifle in 2:50? AS50? 2. WTF is DVK?
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Aug 14, 2012 14:06:07 GMT -5
couple of questions. 1. Is that assault shield considered to be a primary? 1. What's that sniper rifle in 2:50? AS50? 2. WTF is DVK? 2. No, its the SVU-AS 3. Damage View Kick
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 14, 2012 14:07:43 GMT -5
[/li][li] the scorestreaks that encourage players to play for the objectives and win, not being selfish and conservative; [/quote] I wouldnt be too sure about that. Still it doesnt end up completely ignoring objective play like pre-mw3 games, so at least it gives some incentive to capping dem flags.[/quote] Kills in objective modes only give 50 points. Kills around objectives, either attacking for defending, give 125 points. Capturing objectives gives 150 points. Playing the objectives is a much efficient way to raise your score, albeit more dangerous as well. And yes, the Assault Shield is a primary.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Aug 14, 2012 14:16:18 GMT -5
I wouldnt be too sure about that. Still it doesnt end up completely ignoring objective play like pre-mw3 games, so at least it gives some incentive to capping dem flags. Kills in objective modes only give 50 points. Kills around objectives, either attacking for defending, give 125 points. Capturing objectives gives 150 points. Playing the objectives is a much efficient way to raise your score, albeit more dangerous as well. And yes, the Assault Shield is a primary. Great info on how the points are rewarded. Looks like they put a lot of thought into the design to balance the risk vs. reward. Bigger risks give you more rewards in return, thus encourage better players to be less conservative, while the less skill players still have the option to roam around safer areas to earn the streaks in a slower way. Also, if the skill based matchmaking is at least decent, it would also change how streaking works significantly.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 14, 2012 14:26:47 GMT -5
couple of questions. 1. Is that assault shield considered to be a primary? 1. What's that sniper rifle in 2:50? AS50? 2. WTF is DVK? 2. No, its the SVU-AS 3. Damage View Kick It's.. The short barell version of the Dragunov? 9_9 Looks so.. sexy. Reminds me a lot like the AS50 though. It's design.. And it's scope zoom looks like acog zoom from WA2000 BO/AS50 MW3? Wonder what the RoF is.. I noticed it's mag size is 12. Which is a strange number. I pray that's not with extended clips attachment.
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