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Post by Judge_St3vo on Nov 8, 2012 0:27:25 GMT -5
I'm not reconsidering buying the game, but I'm seriously disappointed. I was really hoping for another Mk14 or at least a G3. As it is it looks like the best semiautos in the game... are pistols. I guess no one is as impressed with the laser FAL as I am.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 8, 2012 0:40:11 GMT -5
Not impressed in the slightest. The low rof cap is the reason it has no recoil. The gun has an hour between shots to recenter. If you shot any of the other guns in the game at that speed they would have no recoil too.
I sort of figured this would happen because of Select Fire (Mk14 SF would be... pretty good), but it's still sad.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Nov 8, 2012 1:00:05 GMT -5
You guys keep going on about the semi-autos, but what about the SCAR-H? Poor thing. :C
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Post by Lexapro on Nov 8, 2012 1:07:23 GMT -5
SCAR-H better be a flat 3HK or something...
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Nov 8, 2012 1:22:01 GMT -5
You guys keep going on about the semi-autos, but what about the SCAR-H? Poor thing. :C Well I would if your avi wasn't so mesmerizing.
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Post by Brick2urface on Nov 8, 2012 1:30:18 GMT -5
@brick Yeah but shotguns take no skill and have low skill ceiling while it takes years of training to use a 1250RPM gun that kills in 4 bullets but has 36 round mag.
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Post by blues27xx on Nov 8, 2012 1:30:54 GMT -5
Chicom with select fire, laser, and emags=pp90m1 reborn. The nightmare lives on. Uh..yea.. R.I.P. Here lies any chance the shotguns ever had of being useful.
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Post by novaball on Nov 8, 2012 1:39:59 GMT -5
I'm not reconsidering buying the game, but I'm seriously disappointed. I was really hoping for another Mk14 or at least a G3. As it is it looks like the best semiautos in the game... are pistols. I guess no one is as impressed with the laser FAL as I am. The new ACR, except it fires at half the speed. And unfortunately the only gun that sounds really different than the others is the MTAR, and that's because it sounds like it has its MW2 firing sound mixed in to the standard "bang" that every other AR has.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 8, 2012 1:41:03 GMT -5
R.I.P. Here lies any chance the shotguns ever had of being useful. Pretty much. I know one of my permanent classes now.
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Post by blues27xx on Nov 8, 2012 1:57:40 GMT -5
Buff the M1216!
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Post by Robospy on Nov 8, 2012 2:50:35 GMT -5
Everyone's cynicism is causing me great pain.
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Post by sixone on Nov 8, 2012 5:58:24 GMT -5
Chicom with select fire, laser, and emags=pp90m1 reborn. The nightmare lives on. Uh..yea.. Of course we'd have to see the exact stats for each, but to me the Skorpion looks the same as the Chicom, but no need for Select Fire (skip to 4:14)
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Post by Wonder Showzen on Nov 8, 2012 9:42:58 GMT -5
unless you clip an edge, you don't get out. those stupid little drones are murder too! once you launch/call them in you better avoid all enemies at close-medium ranges. especially roadways/cars/etc. otherwise about the time you think you're safe one will come down on an enemy & take you out too LoL!!! Can you go prone under it to escape the immediate damage? How about crouch-walk under it without it hitting you(and alerting enemy)? Shows the recoil of the burst and semi-autos when select fire is set to full. Holy hell the FAL has no recoil full auto. Holy shit the FAL looks awesome. Finally a return to the pixel-accurate MW2 ACR!
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Post by mmacola on Nov 8, 2012 9:49:01 GMT -5
Yeah guys. It's time to finally ADS with them shotguns. These testers sure as hell should. Only hipfire at knife range.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 8, 2012 10:34:53 GMT -5
Too bad an SMG can hip fire a shotgun at range (and kill) before the shotgun can even ADS.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 8, 2012 10:48:16 GMT -5
That guy ADSes with his Saiga, with long barrel, mind you, and fails to two shot at point blank.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 8, 2012 11:01:17 GMT -5
See mrdeeds' post. When ADSed, the spread is very low, which pleases me. It may well be the only thing to save these things. Also, even with an ADS spread of 3 (which I guessed), these shotguns have worse range than MW3 shotguns...and that's with the damage numbers I made up that are probably too high.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 8, 2012 11:59:22 GMT -5
15-5 all day er' day.
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Post by Judge_St3vo on Nov 8, 2012 19:19:22 GMT -5
Looks like the AN-94 can be shot in 2 round bursts
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Post by xtx on Nov 9, 2012 1:13:11 GMT -5
AN-94 with Fast Mags appears to have a 0.5 sec Reload Add Time.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 9, 2012 2:23:06 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one has asked this...
Toys or anyone else who has the game, can you confirm if the M27 actually has a mobility advantage over the other ARs?
I guess you can run to one side of the map and count how long it takes(or how far you go) vs another AR.
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Post by toysrme on Nov 9, 2012 9:29:18 GMT -5
ill say something else, the barrett in zombies is absolutely terrible. horrendous weapon. you scope in and it doesn't hit anything for a long time.
or you scope in & wait until it can hit something, and if you play on a high sensitivity & pull the sight too quickly, it resets AGAIN.
soooooooo annnoooooying. one of my favorite things in W@W was being MR 80-90% headshot sniper till a raygun+MG came up.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 9, 2012 12:23:26 GMT -5
ill say something else, the barrett in zombies is absolutely terrible. horrendous weapon. you scope in and it doesn't hit anything for a long time. or you scope in & wait until it can hit something, and if you play on a high sensitivity & pull the sight too quickly, it resets AGAIN. soooooooo annnoooooying. one of my favorite things in W@W was being MR 80-90% headshot sniper till a raygun+MG came up. Thanks...
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Post by ace22 on Nov 9, 2012 13:13:00 GMT -5
So here's what it looks like to me, overall in Black Ops 2:
1. ARs have next to no recoil. 2. Shotguns are shit.
Looks like another auto weapon fest, because there's no reason to use a sniper rifle or a shotgun. Goddammit.
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Post by danoski666 on Nov 9, 2012 13:24:09 GMT -5
So here's what it looks like to me, overall in Black Ops 2: 1. ARs have next to no recoil. 2. Shotguns are doo-doo. Looks like another auto weapon fest, because there's no reason to use a sniper rifle or a shotgun. Goddammit. I'm pretty sure you can say that about every CoD since CoD4. Maybe except MW2, since shotguns are pretty damn good in that game.
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Post by Brick2urface on Nov 9, 2012 15:14:23 GMT -5
I didn't like it. I would have loved to be able to go spas + stinger. Nothing kills momentum when shotgunning quite like an enemy harrier.
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Post by Brick2urface on Nov 9, 2012 15:25:42 GMT -5
Cold blooded spas works but light weight and stopping power are so much better. I did laugh my ass off when I got that silenced spas nuke with cold blooded on. Did not expect that to happen.
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Post by danoski666 on Nov 9, 2012 15:44:11 GMT -5
You mean, MW3 Spas with the Damage proficiency.
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Post by Brick2urface on Nov 9, 2012 16:04:00 GMT -5
That's pretty much mw3 spas Stock mw3 shotgun has just about 2 meters more one shot range than the mw2 silenced cold blooded spas. Thats really sad.
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Post by bmac39 on Nov 9, 2012 19:44:50 GMT -5
So apparently Flak Jacket doesn't protect you from Hunter Killer drones.
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