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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 10, 2012 15:07:27 GMT -5
I've got a gold KSG now and I like it way more than I liked any of the MW3 pumps, though that's not the highest standard in the world. Killing people window to window on Hijacked is just hilarious.
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Dec 10, 2012 18:16:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the R870 performs now after the patch?
I hope it does suck now, it really pissed me off. Maybe not so much the gun itself, but the fact that Dexterity can allow a R870 user to destroy you, even if you get the first bullet or two on 'em. Once again, it's not really the R870, but it's Dexterity.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 10, 2012 18:19:08 GMT -5
If you're in the one shot range of a shotgun, you had lost before the engagement began.
If you're in the two shot range of a pump action, you're just bad.
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Dec 10, 2012 18:24:01 GMT -5
guys i think aliens abducted moop and replaced him with some shotgun hating double No I don't hate shotguns. The R870 is still my 2nd most killed gun. It was also my first ever Gold gun. It's just really frustrating getting owned by it constantly because Dexterity makes it OP.
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Post by Amirror on Dec 10, 2012 18:39:49 GMT -5
I got my argument hat on. Even though I'm not arguing right now.
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Post by mastermarth on Dec 10, 2012 19:20:34 GMT -5
Well, I don't wanna take sides there since I really haven't played the game enough to have seen it as a big problem I guess. Just uh....get your argument pants on. Pants? HA! Pants are for the weak! I argumentate without pants! I like to feel the breeeeeeeze... On a more serious tone, what Mega said: If you are within 1 shot kill range, it's your fault before the first shot from either person got fired. Same as if you are running out into the open (especially on a SR friendly map), you were dead before the Sniper even spotted you.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 10, 2012 23:24:59 GMT -5
If you're in the one shot range of a shotgun, you had lost before the engagement began. If you're in the two shot range of a pump action, you're just bad. I agree with this in general, but because of the headshot multiplier the KSG 1hk range is absolutely huge, and because of the 200 damage range you can actually 1 shot wallbang people with it (you can even put a MMS on it!). I spent a fair amount of time leveling it up this afternoon and doing ok... until I put QD, LB, and MMS on it. I don't even think of the gun like a shotgun any more, it's something else. I'm inclined to say it's the demonic lovechild of the SPAS-12 and the Acog M40A3 (This is a good thing). It's growing on me rapidly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 23:50:56 GMT -5
same
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Post by 42 on Dec 10, 2012 23:52:59 GMT -5
i would totally fu ck the R870 Even after it's nerf? It is 45 inches shorter...
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Post by Brick2urface on Dec 10, 2012 23:53:50 GMT -5
moose has never spent the night with a real shotgun.
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Post by 42 on Dec 11, 2012 0:00:41 GMT -5
Yet you rejected the stakeout. Why? Why?
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Post by Brick2urface on Dec 11, 2012 0:09:19 GMT -5
what can i say, im easy like the mw2 spas 12 I will murder you in a way that can only be described as deeply pornagraphic. Mw2 spas is only easy if you use it as a secondary.
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Post by inu on Dec 11, 2012 0:12:25 GMT -5
I just came here to point out that the R870 has a friggin sweet animation when you pull it out at the beginning of the round.
Don't put a laser on it -- it ruins the animation.
The KSG's start animation is meh, but it sounds way cooler when you shoot it.
I can't believe no one here has mentioned these crucial factors of shotgun balance. Geez.
Seriously though, in my experience, KSG is super rad if you've got really great aim, but the R870 is more dependable if you don't -- just have to maneuver a bit more to stay in your 1-2HK range.
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Post by Brick2urface on Dec 11, 2012 0:19:57 GMT -5
it was the best shotgun of all time. i mean as far as shotguns go that means it was the easiest one. It still has finite range. Mw2 was some of the biggest maps in cod to date so that ends up being problematic. Mw3 striker was the easiest for me. Its effective inside every inch of its range, its forgiving, and the maps are generally conducive to its use.
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Post by Brick2urface on Dec 11, 2012 0:21:04 GMT -5
I wish we would make a game. We could make a freakin sweet game.
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Post by Brick2urface on Dec 11, 2012 0:33:24 GMT -5
I have never once put the spas on an AR class in mw2. I won't be "that guy".
My favorite mw2 class is mariton, light weight, ninja, spas with emags, and walther 2000 with heart beat as my secondary and stuns/semtex. When someone is impeding my progress accross an open sightline they get the wa2000. Then I charge and spas all his friends.
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Post by blues27xx on Dec 11, 2012 0:50:56 GMT -5
"That guy" had the best class in the game tbh Wa2k was my favorite sniper ever because countersniping was like...a thing in mw2 CoD4 jugg dragunov is best countersniper. Mmmmmm the tears of the M40 whores where so deliciously salty.
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Post by Brick2urface on Dec 11, 2012 0:51:11 GMT -5
"That guy" had the best class in the game tbh Exactly. And w2000 is the best non stopping power unsilenced sniper. Its an actual marksman's rifle. No brute force, no spam, just precision.
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Post by MastaQ on Dec 11, 2012 2:48:39 GMT -5
I just got diamond shotguns, and I decided to give the silenced KSG a try. It's actually pretty good. Without the silencer, there's no making mistakes. If you shoot a guy, and you miss/get a hitmarker, you're probably toast. But with the silencer, you can make mistakes and get away with them.
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Post by n3r0s on Dec 11, 2012 6:32:57 GMT -5
The lag feels different and strange in this version of COD and of cause that's more important when it's about kill with the first shot or die.
One game when I tried the m870 i started up with 4 kills with 4 shots and had 7-1 fast when the connection broke to the servers. Another game it can be impossible to hit anything but air.
So my conclusion is that how the ping times is at the moment is more important than if it's ksg or m870. I've seen players preforming pretty well with both.
Yesterday I had some games against two KSG users, one with silencer and the other with long barrel. The silenced guy did very well, maybe he was better.
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Post by mastermarth on Dec 11, 2012 7:55:14 GMT -5
I agree with this in general, but because of the headshot multiplier the KSG 1hk range is absolutely huge, and because of the 200 damage range you can actually 1 shot wallbang people with it (you can even put a MMS on it!). I spent a fair amount of time leveling it up this afternoon and doing ok... until I put QD, LB, and MMS on it. I don't even think of the gun like a shotgun any more, it's something else. I'm inclined to say it's the demonic lovechild of the SPAS-12 and the Acog M40A3 (This is a good thing). It's growing on me rapidly. Hmm... I want to try this now...
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Post by mastermarth on Dec 11, 2012 8:25:12 GMT -5
Of course, it's all about that KSG.
That range and that powerful pump...
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Post by mastermarth on Dec 11, 2012 8:57:34 GMT -5
Stop moving around the room so much then. Just lie back and take it, as it'll happen eventually anyways.
Also, if he misses that much, maybe he needs more hands-on practice alone first.
Besides, think of it this way: at least the few missfires all land at the same place and not spread all over the place.
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Post by mastermarth on Dec 11, 2012 9:26:05 GMT -5
The Saiga just wants to blow its load as fast as possible on some unsuspecting faces... it has no morals or dignity.
At least the M1216 takes a break here and there.
Besides, the KSG lasts forever while the S12 and M1216 blow their loads in no time, leaving a lot to be desired.
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Post by -3055- on Dec 11, 2012 9:43:21 GMT -5
i would totally fu ck the R870 hmmmm I just came here to point out that the R870 has a friggin sweet animation when you pull it out at the beginning of the round. The KSG's start animation is meh, but it sounds way cooler when you shoot it. that game-starting pump is the reason i use it. and the ksg sounds stupid. it's like a large animal wheezing. suppressed and laser hipfired ksg is the way to go. that's the only way i use it.
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Post by mastermarth on Dec 11, 2012 9:52:30 GMT -5
@mousey: Again, if you wanted a quickie, let him do all the work and stop moving. Besides, at least the thick slug fills in more than a few small pellets.
@-3055-: So, the reason you use the R870 is because of the starting spawn animation on it? KSG sounds fine, not better than the R870 but still sounds great. I'd rather ADS myself.
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Post by -3055- on Dec 11, 2012 9:53:54 GMT -5
precisely. And so I can get final killcams in S&D so everyone can be amazed by my diamond shotguns.
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Post by mastermarth on Dec 11, 2012 10:03:24 GMT -5
precisely. And so I can get final killcams in S&D so everyone can rage at my diamond shotguns. Fixed.
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Post by Brick2urface on Dec 11, 2012 10:31:14 GMT -5
ksg has best penetration.
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Post by mastermarth on Dec 11, 2012 12:42:27 GMT -5
Women prefer thick slugs over long barrels. True story. At least, I know one woman that does...
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