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Post by air139 on Jan 2, 2013 0:02:19 GMT -5
Assault Rifles: 85 feet
PDW/Vector/Chicom: 82
MP7/MSMC/Skorp: 62
M1216: 82
Other Shotties: 50
LMGs: 80
Ballista: 50
SVU: 332
XPR: 332
DSR: >381
Pistols: 50
Shield: 50
Crossbow: 50
Ballistic Knives: 50
(At 50 feet the knife goes where you aim it)
Launchers: 82
Combat Knife and Balistic Knife
Aim Assist range 50
Knife reach <5
Lunge range <10
Black hat hacks within 50 feet w/o LoS, or super far with LoS
Once hacking has started, you can lose LoS and still hack.
Dragon Fly Aim Assist 132
Sentry Assist: Huge
Sentry Auto kill range: 150
Guardian kill range 62
Engineering highlight range 125
Tomahawk 132
all other equipment 50
small edit to black hat
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Post by 42 on Jan 2, 2013 0:05:33 GMT -5
Nice. how did you get these?
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Post by air139 on Jan 2, 2013 0:10:29 GMT -5
Ballistic CPU multiple samples
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Post by Robospy on Jan 2, 2013 1:29:12 GMT -5
Maybe this is why I find it takes ages to line up long range shots with the Ballista
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Post by air139 on Jan 2, 2013 2:40:12 GMT -5
Maybe this is why I find it takes ages to line up long range shots with the Ballista exactly why |
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Post by mmacola on Jan 2, 2013 2:43:00 GMT -5
Maybe this is why I find it takes ages to line up long range shots with the Ballista Because guess what: It wasn't made for long ranges. WUT |
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Post by air139 on Jan 2, 2013 3:15:41 GMT -5
Maybe this is why I find it takes ages to line up long range shots with the Ballista Because guess what: It wasn't made for long ranges. WUT Supposed to put that iron sight on it and show off and all |
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Post by randomguy987 on Jan 2, 2013 5:15:40 GMT -5
Maybe this is why I find it takes ages to line up long range shots with the Ballista Have to keep quickscoping balanced, Treyarch-style. If the Ballista had aim-assist, people would abuse the hell out of that sexy 0.35 second ADS time. /s |
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Post by asasa on Jan 2, 2013 9:42:33 GMT -5
Interesting.. that does explain why the Ballista is such shit.
I do like the Vector even more now that I know it has more aim assist than the Skorp/MP7. Seriously, it's idiotic for the MP7 to have shorter aim assist range than the PDW/Vector. Its supposed to be the "mid range" SMG...
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Post by banana on Jan 2, 2013 11:57:32 GMT -5
Vector new best smg  |
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Post by danoski666 on Jan 2, 2013 12:27:10 GMT -5
Vector new best smg Vector was best SMG since the game came out, bruh! |
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Post by bm01 on Jan 2, 2013 12:41:27 GMT -5
Interesting.. that does explain why the Ballista is such doo-doo. And why only PC players seem to like it. I don't like their way to balance guns, by tweaking their aim assist range. |
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Post by Marvel4 on Jan 2, 2013 13:07:37 GMT -5
You should convert the ranges to inches. And specify if they are from the hip or ADS.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 2, 2013 16:28:31 GMT -5
Wait - the M1216 has aim assist 32 feet past where the pellets even reach?
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Post by mmacola on Jan 2, 2013 16:43:56 GMT -5
Wait - the M1216 has aim assist 32 feet past where the pellets even reach? lol, I just realized that. I guess this is a great excuse to not buff it, according to 3arc. |
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 2, 2013 16:53:25 GMT -5
Do any attachments impact aim assist range? Long barrel? Suppressor? Any sights?
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Post by Megaqwerty on Jan 3, 2013 0:24:20 GMT -5
You should convert the ranges to inches. I disagree. The numbers were derived from the Ballistics CPU, which reports in feet, and thus lacks the resolution to be converted to inches. |
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Post by asasa on Jan 3, 2013 0:33:35 GMT -5
Well, if made into inches, you might find that they round into cleaner, more likely numbers like 500 or something.
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Post by 42 on Jan 3, 2013 0:36:31 GMT -5
Yeah, but they're impossible to convert accurately, so that wouldn't really help much.
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Post by Robospy on Jan 3, 2013 1:20:36 GMT -5
I think there's this magical process called multiplication that could convert these numbers, although I heard its extremely difficult and time-consuming; I lost 3 of my best friends to multiplication.
In other words, we're all just waiting for someone else to convert these numbers for us.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Jan 3, 2013 3:27:03 GMT -5
I think there's this magical process called multiplication that could convert these numbers Will this magical process also contribute the required resolution to do this step? There are twelve inches per foot. (Crazy, I know.) Because the CPU rounds somehow (could be tested empirically if it rounds, floors, or ceilings), you lose the amount of inches. |
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Jan 3, 2013 3:29:21 GMT -5
The best you could get is a range of inches.
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Post by Robospy on Jan 3, 2013 3:53:17 GMT -5
Even considering the rounding, the most you are ever going to be off by is 11, and because the developers generally only use values that are a factor of 10 or 25, it's can be easily interpreted to what the numbers should be - not like a difference of 11u is significant though.
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Post by 42 on Jan 3, 2013 9:32:00 GMT -5
I think there's this magical process called multiplication that could convert these numbers, although I heard its extremely difficult and time-consuming; I lost 3 of my best friends to multiplication. In other words, we're all just waiting for someone else to convert these numbers for us. I heard there are creatures on the Board of the Pros that lurk in the shadows, ready to unleash their snarky asides on any who is present. They skulk like lazy sharkskins, only submitting input where none is needed. I have heard they are moon-struck creatures indeed, incapable of realizing their lack of perspicuity or significance. Truly, the Board of Pros is a hazardous place. Marvel4 brought up a good point on the IRC as well, that we are assuming the OP's tests are completely accurate. Even if we did multiply them, they still wouldn't be accurate. But here we go... Assault Rifles: 1020 in PDW/Vector/Chicom: 984 in MP7/MSMC/Skorp: 744 in M1216: 984 in Other Shotties: 600 in LMGs: 960 in Ballista: 600 in SVU: 3984 in XPR: 3984 in DSR: >4572 in Pistols: 600 in Shield: 600 in Crossbow: 600 in Ballistic Knives: 600 in (At 600 in the knife goes where you aim it) Launchers: 984 in Combat Knife and Balistic Knife Aim Assist range 600 in Knife reach <60 in Lunge range <120 in Black hat hacks within 600 in w/o LoS, or super far with LoS Dragon Fly Aim Assist 1584 in Sentry Assist: Huge Sentry Auto kill range: 1800 in Guardian kill range 744 in Engineering highlight range 1500 in Tomahawk 1584 in all other equipment 600 in Thanks air139 for the original numbers. Anyways, as we can see some of these numbers aren't quite so clean, something Treyarch isn't apt to do. In reality, the numbers are probably more rounded than we think. For example the launchers probably have an aim assist of 1000 inches. |
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Post by Marvel4 on Jan 3, 2013 10:06:01 GMT -5
You should convert the ranges to inches. I disagree. The numbers were derived from the Ballistics CPU, which reports in feet, and thus lacks the resolution to be converted to inches. ARs, the AKS-74U and the Kiparis in Black Ops have an aim assist range of 1000. 82 * 12 ≈ 1000 Most SMGs in Black Ops have an aim assist range of 750. 62 * 12 ≈ 750 etc. |
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Post by asasa on Jan 3, 2013 13:55:08 GMT -5
I disagree. The numbers were derived from the Ballistics CPU, which reports in feet, and thus lacks the resolution to be converted to inches. ARs, the AKS-74U and the Kiparis in Black Ops have an aim assist range of 1000. 82 * 12 ≈ 1000 Most SMGs in Black Ops have an aim assist range of 750. 62 * 12 ≈ 750 etc. Yeah, at least Marvel gets it. |
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 3, 2013 14:25:48 GMT -5
So - any attachments change anything?
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Post by air139 on Jan 3, 2013 23:27:21 GMT -5
Do any attachments impact aim assist range? Long barrel? Suppressor? Any sights? will test this later |
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Post by beer0clock on Jan 4, 2013 0:28:09 GMT -5
I think you are confusing crosshair color distance with aim assist during L trigger. There's no way the ballista has only a 600 inch aim assist while hard scoped
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Post by air139 on Jan 4, 2013 15:17:51 GMT -5
crosshair color distance is aim assist distance. when the out of the red crosshair distance there is no change in speed when passing the crosshairs over the person. This was the same from the hip and scoped. I will retest the ballista later if you think the ballista has a different value in scope.
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