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Post by seanbateman on Nov 8, 2013 22:05:01 GMT -5
Have yet to unlock the MSBS, but that's obviously the best AR. The SC-2010 and AK are the best full autos from what I can tel.
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Post by hard1ine on Nov 8, 2013 22:20:38 GMT -5
MSBS is the new Type 95, easily the best AR in the game and needs to be patched soon.
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Post by -3055- on Nov 9, 2013 0:49:33 GMT -5
Type 95 did not need a nerf. MSBS does not need a nerf. If any AR was OP in MW3, it was MK-14 rapid fire and focus/kick.
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Post by Nintendon't on Nov 9, 2013 0:54:11 GMT -5
What seems to be the best MR in your opinion guys? the MK14 fires to slow IMHO (only picked it up once though), so the dragonov is probably also horrible. The 2 HK on all ranges sounds nice though. The IA2 with Red Dot/Silencer has been working pretty well for me.
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Nov 9, 2013 7:24:54 GMT -5
Why can't I look at my individual gun stats? I couldn't find them in the barracks and I don't have a Ghosts page on elite either...
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Post by tooros on Nov 9, 2013 8:34:56 GMT -5
In create-a-soldier, when selecting a weapon, you can toggle stat bars for usage stats. It's RB on Xbox (I think)
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Nov 9, 2013 9:13:42 GMT -5
Oh nice, I'll check that out next time I get on.
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Post by netherwind on Nov 9, 2013 17:17:17 GMT -5
Type 95 did not need a nerf. MSBS does not need a nerf. If any AR was OP in MW3, it was MK-14 rapid fire and focus/kick. There is no ACR or MP7, as good as AK is, ACR was way better, and Ghost MK14 < MW 3 MK14. On other hand, while MSBS has a lower RoF, it has better 2 hit kill range and you get just as much, if not more one bursts. Guns in this game are good, but not MW3 good, and IMO MSBS is an exception. Not sure if it really need a nerf though.
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Post by -3055- on Nov 9, 2013 18:44:13 GMT -5
Makes sense. If a gun is relatively better than others, it can be called overpowered But I feel like it's honestly not that great in of itself. The recoil even with grip isn't good enough for average sniping range. If I'm gonna two burst three burst people then I might as well use a marksman. And I'm not missing, mind you, I'm talking about stationary snipers.
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Post by netherwind on Nov 9, 2013 20:52:50 GMT -5
Makes sense. If a gun is relatively better than others, it can be called overpowered But I feel like it's honestly not that great in of itself. The recoil even with grip isn't good enough for average sniping range. If I'm gonna two burst three burst people then I might as well use a marksman. And I'm not missing, mind you, I'm talking about stationary snipers. That's completely true, 3 round burst weapon with 5 shot kill at very long range are not meant to kill snipers in that range, marksman are much better, even full autos like SC-2010 and AK-12 does a better job.
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Post by Zero IX on Nov 10, 2013 12:10:11 GMT -5
MSBS is neither in need of a patch nor the uncontested best AR. Something about the damage profile seems makes the MSBS top-notch at middle ranges, but not so much at longer ranges where it frequently takes several bursts to kill.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 10, 2013 19:11:38 GMT -5
I just finished maxing my first guy to level 60. Best gun I have found is the SVU followed by M27-IAR and then LSAT. The LMGs really do require the run speed perks though. SVU is for taking down people fast. Agreed. SVU is awesome in this game. Recoil isn't that bad(higher than SVU from BO2), but it gets that 2 hit kill at least. First time I played multi last night, and I used MR-28 as my MR setup. Not sure if it was the dual rendering, the way, or the 3 hit kill at long range that turned me off. I barely got any kills with it. As soon as I purchased the SVU earlier this morning though, I started going positive. 2 hit kill at long range really makes a difference. I did really good in stadium when I equipped silencer and iron sights. Was just pure sex. That ROF cap of +300 RPM is a drag though. It should at least get BO2's ROF of +400. >_> Other than that.. I'm not feeling the Bizon at all. Higher recoil than PP90. >_>
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Post by mw2baller on Nov 10, 2013 21:19:07 GMT -5
What's the point of the vector if the mtar is pretty much the same thing but with a 4hk at max range?
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 10, 2013 22:31:52 GMT -5
What's the point of the vector if the mtar is pretty much the same thing but with a 4hk at max range? Are you saying Ghosts has clone weapons? HOW DARE YOU.. Vector has a longer 3 hit kill range and a faster reload time.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 10, 2013 22:50:59 GMT -5
you know you got a clone weapon when shit like reload time is mentioned as a notable difference. also you know a gun is just worse when reload time counts as a tangible advantage. So lets pair the clone guns then Bizon+CBJ-MS Vector+MTAR Remington+AK12 SC2010+SA805 Bulldog+MTS5 MK14+IA Am I doing it right?
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Post by netherwind on Nov 10, 2013 23:43:17 GMT -5
you know you got a clone weapon when shit like reload time is mentioned as a notable difference. also you know a gun is just worse when reload time counts as a tangible advantage. Depends, I always say ACR 6.8 was the better gun than MP7 in MW3, one reason is the huge difference in reload time, and they were both OP but very different. Low enough reload time means a lot to me, I have to have slight of hand on slow reload guns, but if it's close to 2 sec, I can run another perk in its place.
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Post by netherwind on Nov 10, 2013 23:44:25 GMT -5
MSBS is neither in need of a patch nor the uncontested best AR. Something about the damage profile seems makes the MSBS top-notch at middle ranges, but not so much at longer ranges where it frequently takes several bursts to kill. Long range is where every AR get destroyed by Markman and Sniper, in AR's optimal range, MSBS just melt every other AR.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 11, 2013 3:07:52 GMT -5
MSBS is neither in need of a patch nor the uncontested best AR. Something about the damage profile seems makes the MSBS top-notch at middle ranges, but not so much at longer ranges where it frequently takes several bursts to kill. Long range is where every AR get destroyed by Markman and Sniper, in AR's optimal range, MSBS just melt every other AR. I wouldn't say destroyed.. If they get the first shot and they're using a low recoil AR, I'd say they got the advantage..
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Post by qupie on Nov 11, 2013 4:03:05 GMT -5
What's the point of the vector if the mtar is pretty much the same thing but with a 4hk at max range? Lol really? have you looked at the recoil? (in game and in plots) This gun is far from a clone... less recoil, less min damage, way better iron sights, faster reload. It is like calling the MW2 ump a clone of the MW2 vector.... On the MTAR the only good combination of attachments is RDS + RF IMO. because it really needs that RDS and RF to compensate for that slow wobly recoil. most other SMG's give you allot more freedom of attachments. Closest thing to a close might be the SA and AK IMHO. The TAR IS a beast though, with RF and RDS
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Post by herts_joatmon on Nov 11, 2013 5:15:06 GMT -5
I was looking at the gun stats over the weekend and not sure weather to unlock the AK or FAD next. I want to use it silenced, stock site perhaps with grip to use as a mid to long range engagement or may be with the shotgun attachement to cover CQC since both guns have pretty managable recoil. ready up SOH quick draw focus may be get the sound whore perk in there somewhere as well. Which is the better mid to long range gun silenced? Lots of love for the AK on this site, but I feel with a faster RPM and larger magazine the FAD is the overall better gun even though the AK has much higher close damage. That extra damage only helps if they have cover or a vest. Plus I used it alot on MW3 so have a softspot for it anyway.
Other "best guns" seem to be MTAR silence + VMR. MTAR (or CBJMS) rapid + grip. MSBS muzzle + grip or site. Want to try M27 with silence and VMR with QD, stalker and agility as recomended by someone else on this site.
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Post by tooros on Nov 11, 2013 12:41:59 GMT -5
As a complete sniper noob (in any cod) is there anything better than the L115?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 11, 2013 13:05:29 GMT -5
As a complete sniper noob (in any cod) is there anything better than the L115? M40 GAYCOG.
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Post by tooros on Nov 11, 2013 13:08:12 GMT -5
Bad grammar on my part: I'm a complete noob sniper as I've never tried it an any cod before (well apart from as few as50 kills in mw3.)
In ghosts: is there a better sniper than the L115? I need all the help I can get.
I want that ghillie suit for my marksman classes!
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Post by -3055- on Nov 11, 2013 14:15:44 GMT -5
Camp tags in KC with the lynx.
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Post by wings on Nov 11, 2013 14:28:47 GMT -5
Bad grammar on my part: I'm a complete noob sniper as I've never tried it an any cod before (well apart from as few as50 kills in mw3.) In ghosts: is there a better sniper than the L115? I need all the help I can get. I want that ghillie suit for my marksman classes! What's the challenge for it?
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Nov 11, 2013 14:53:19 GMT -5
Bad grammar on my part: I'm a complete noob sniper as I've never tried it an any cod before (well apart from as few as50 kills in mw3.) In ghosts: is there a better sniper than the L115? I need all the help I can get. I want that ghillie suit for my marksman classes! What's the challenge for it? 500 kills while using Chrome Lined
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Post by -3055- on Nov 11, 2013 14:58:21 GMT -5
And the full ghillie suit is 850 kills chromed lined.
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Post by tooros on Nov 11, 2013 15:06:36 GMT -5
And the full ghillie suit is 850 kills chromed lined. That's what I'm after. I'm not sure I the operations reset completely in 8 days or just give you the option to take new ones. I've got 700 to get in that time if they do reset.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Nov 11, 2013 15:13:04 GMT -5
Quite straightforward I'd say, given how mandatory that Chrome Lined attachment seems.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 11, 2013 15:21:37 GMT -5
And the full ghillie suit is 850 kills chromed lined. Seriously? WTH.. Just for a ghille suit?
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