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Post by TheHawkNY on Dec 12, 2014 17:05:11 GMT -5
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Post by probaddie on Dec 12, 2014 17:18:25 GMT -5
This is top class. Well done. (Just remember to share the tens of pennies you'll earn with Marvel4 when the ads go up.)
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Post by -3055- on Dec 12, 2014 17:24:15 GMT -5
wait, the shotguns have non zero values?
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Post by wwaa on Dec 12, 2014 17:30:15 GMT -5
^ probably at that range opponent recovers faster than you deal dmg : )
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Post by mrbone2u on Dec 12, 2014 19:10:30 GMT -5
Everytime i look at the stats on the bal i wana vomit. How cant they think its balanced?
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Post by bmac39 on Dec 13, 2014 15:06:11 GMT -5
S12 best gun NA, EU, JP, and AU
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Post by Blurred Wolf on Dec 14, 2014 1:37:54 GMT -5
How come everyone doesn't use the HBRa3 over the BAL? It seems better based off these stats, or am I missing something?
All the SMGs seem shit except the KF5 and SAC3 (for the akimbo goofness). The SN6 might be usable but probably not.
With the ARX-160. Despite that stats on the closest target in the range I could not get a 3SK. However with the Hole Puncher variant (+2 damage) I was able to get 3SK's to like some of the furthest away targets, that variant seems to make the gun like actually top tier. Unless the target range is buggy.
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Post by Will on Dec 14, 2014 2:10:07 GMT -5
How come everyone doesn't use the HBRa3 over the BAL? It seems better based off these stats, or am I missing something? RPM
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Post by Blurred Wolf on Dec 14, 2014 2:18:20 GMT -5
How come everyone doesn't use the HBRa3 over the BAL? It seems better based off these stats, or am I missing something? RPM But the HBR has the RPM bonus on the first 4 shots, not after the first 4 shots. So considering that means you can burst fire it, doesn't that make it better?
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Post by bmac39 on Dec 14, 2014 3:14:34 GMT -5
Nobody uses the HBR because it shoots slow as shit, has a ton of recoil without grip, and has the worst irons in the game
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Post by kylet357 on Dec 14, 2014 4:38:05 GMT -5
Nobody uses the HBR because it shoots slow as shit, has a ton of recoil without grip, and has the worst irons in the game
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Post by cashmoves on Dec 14, 2014 9:35:03 GMT -5
tac might be decent if the medium damage were 34. at 30, its just dumb. ive got hit markers at close range, ie, 50 damage. meaning, somehow, i landed one of 8 fucking pellets... steady aim please come back!
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Post by Blurred Wolf on Dec 14, 2014 10:34:29 GMT -5
Nobody uses the HBR because it shoots slow as shit, has a ton of recoil without grip, and has the worst irons in the game Unless I'm reading the chart wrong it has the same RPM as the BAL's high RPM for its first 4 shots, which is workable. Recoil seemed perfectly manageable on PC and the irons is subjective. I think it is a viable alternative given the range increase and then you don't have to be a BAL douche.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 14, 2014 10:54:27 GMT -5
Nobody uses the HBR because it shoots slow as shit, has a ton of recoil without grip, and has the worst irons in the game No, the HBRA-3's recoil/rof is not his opinion and iron sights are only subjective to a point(The CoD4 M60's irons are objectively bad).
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Post by kylet357 on Dec 14, 2014 12:12:11 GMT -5
I was more referring to the general idea that he was most likely calling it a bad weapon (and the iron sight thing too), rather than what he thought were bad points about the gun. CoD 4 M60 iron sights are Hitler.
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Post by zimpoo on Dec 14, 2014 12:25:31 GMT -5
Yes excellent work ! Thank you so much
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Post by bmac39 on Dec 14, 2014 14:17:34 GMT -5
On old gen the HBR sucks even more since they nerfed it to have SMG range. It wasn't a bad gun before the nerf, it just wasn't on BAL level at all.
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Post by mrbone2u on Dec 14, 2014 17:17:48 GMT -5
On old gen the HBR sucks even more since they nerfed it to have SMG range. It wasn't a bad gun before the nerf, it just wasn't on BAL level at all. Which is why this game is basically shit on a stick. Using anything other than the bal pretty much puts you at such a disadvantage that its not even worth it. Also fucks up any chance of variety since every other gun is inferior to the bal and thats not even the best variant of bal, the base gun is just as bad.
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Post by Will on Dec 14, 2014 19:26:01 GMT -5
On old gen the HBR sucks even more since they nerfed it to have SMG range. It wasn't a bad gun before the nerf, it just wasn't on BAL level at all. Which is why this game is basically shit on a stick. Using anything other than the bal pretty much puts you at such a disadvantage that its not even worth it. Also Foxtrots up any chance of variety since every other gun is inferior to the bal and thats not even the best variant of bal, the base gun is just as bad. This is a twitch shooter where whoever shoots first will win the gun battle 99% of the time, regardless of what gun you are using. To define it as "shit on a stick" because one gun has a TTK that is 5% faster than other weapons is just absurd. You must hate every single Call of Duty game if you think that way.
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Post by kylet357 on Dec 14, 2014 19:34:00 GMT -5
This is a twitch shooter where whoever shoots first will win the gun battle 99% of the time this exactly what flinch and/or toughness prevents, so not really true
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Post by mrbone2u on Dec 14, 2014 19:34:07 GMT -5
Which is why this game is basically shit on a stick. Using anything other than the bal pretty much puts you at such a disadvantage that its not even worth it. Also Foxtrots up any chance of variety since every other gun is inferior to the bal and thats not even the best variant of bal, the base gun is just as bad. This is a twitch shooter where whoever shoots first will win the gun battle 99% of the time, regardless of what gun you are using. To define it as "shit on a stick" because one gun has a TTK that is 5% faster than other weapons is just absurd. You must hate every single Call of Duty game if you think that way. Its called an opinion you might want look into that, google is a good start. Also no i dont hate every cod i just dont like cods that have weapons that the majority of the playerbase use because they outshine all the others. The ACR from mw3, bo2 famas, full auto fal from bo2. If you look back you'll see they were nerfed for a reason and also why the bal was recently nerfed. Yes it is a twitch shooter and as much as you may think 5% isnt much it makes a difference.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 14, 2014 20:51:05 GMT -5
From what I hear the 3rd shotgun number doesn't matter?
Example: The Tac-19 is a 50-30 within its reach, the 10 is irrelevant. Correct?
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Post by bmac39 on Dec 14, 2014 20:52:33 GMT -5
yes
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Dec 14, 2014 20:53:57 GMT -5
From what I hear the 3rd shotgun number doesn't matter? Example: The Tac-19 is a 50-30 within its reach, the 10 is irrelevant. Correct? Except for the EM1, EM1 is best shotgun
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 14, 2014 22:28:49 GMT -5
And it's like BLOPS II where all DMG numbers are discrete bar shotguns?
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Post by cashmoves on Dec 15, 2014 10:55:56 GMT -5
does anyone have the modified stats for sniper rifles with attachments, eg, silencer and iron sights?
while kneeling, or especially prone, the lynx is actually usable. with the silencer though, i think it is impossible to get a OHK headshot, which is absolutely inexcusable. a silenced sniper rifle would make S&D way more fun! im assuming the silencer merely decreases the 1.5x multiplier to 1.1 like for the rest of the body. with iron sights, you can still get a OHK headshot, however, they must have added a range dropoff component, because i got a 3 shot kill with the lynx + iron sights at long range yesterday. as far as i know, a sniper rifle has never had a range decrease in COD, which makes that interesting.
i have not got the iron sights for the MORS and am curious as to how it affects that gun as well.
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Post by wantonRULE on Dec 15, 2014 11:30:28 GMT -5
All the SMGs seem shit except the KF5 and SAC3 (for the akimbo goofness). The SN6 might be usable but probably not. With the ARX-160. Despite that stats on the closest target in the range I could not get a 3SK. However with the Hole Puncher variant (+2 damage) I was able to get 3SK's to like some of the furthest away targets, that variant seems to make the gun like actually top tier. Unless the target range is buggy. The ASM is the best SMG, 1000 RPM for the first 8 shots with a nice 3 btk range (this is just the base one too). Great irons, 45 rounds, very accurate with grip, and cures aids. The KF5 dropping to a 4btk after the 1st 5 shots with it's rpm, crazy recoil and huge bulky irons (base of the gun) makes it poop. SN6 is poop. I've tried to like it. I've tried numerous attachment setups and it's just meh. Maybe I just suck with it, i dunno.
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Post by banana on Dec 15, 2014 13:14:51 GMT -5
Is anyone able to post this to the codaw reddit? their submission restrictions are fuc king retarded. I'll post it, i want that karma lol
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Post by banana on Dec 15, 2014 13:23:53 GMT -5
Btw do i post the chart itself or the thread? Just making sure
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Post by banana on Dec 15, 2014 13:27:05 GMT -5
Ima post the chart with shoutout to you guys
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