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Post by imrlybord7 on Feb 10, 2015 9:18:30 GMT -5
Advanced Warfare is a more dangerous game. If you play only to maximize your kills you will not have a high K/D. Minimizing deaths without tactical loitering is the way to think. I started dying a lot less when I started turning around and abandoning my current route more. I play mostly Kill Confirmed, used to get a ton of kills, a few more tags than kills, and almost as many deaths as kills. Now I get a ton of kills, 2/3 to 3/4 as many tags as kills, and around half as many deaths as kills.
Old CoD games were so limited because of their lack of advanced movement mechanics. Firefights were satisfying but in retrospect few were actually interesting. Advanced Warfare does have a bit of a flustercuck problem, but adapting is very possible unless you play certain gametypes and feel the need to relentlessly PTFO at the expense of dying.
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 10, 2015 21:56:45 GMT -5
Another great start to my CoD week,
About 18 games of TDM, all solo....KD ratio = 2.07 +16-3, ...2.16 now
played 9 games of Dom, all full party.....KD ratio = 0.87
Go figure.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Feb 11, 2015 1:32:04 GMT -5
It's because you play the objective.
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Post by Will on Feb 11, 2015 1:39:02 GMT -5
Who the Foxtrot cares about their K/D in Domination? It's all about dat win, boiiii
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Post by asasa on Feb 11, 2015 12:43:49 GMT -5
Except in snd, before sbmm ruined that, too
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Post by asasa on Feb 11, 2015 13:31:43 GMT -5
I meant you could still win without parties in snd; take the same lobby of players and make it domination - no individual player can win the game.
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Post by asasa on Feb 11, 2015 13:43:10 GMT -5
I still dont think it matters. If one player is consistently stomping an entire team, then that to me sounds more like an issue of lobby balancing than anything else. A shitty player can still cap flags, but they can't solo a 1v3 in SnD. It's just the way the games work. I agree the ratio itself is junk, but it's most controllable in SnD
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 11, 2015 13:47:33 GMT -5
Who the Foxtrot cares about their K/D in Domination? It's all about dat win, boiiii Right. I know that. But I found the above stats (I posted) to be a bit amusing. And for what it's worth (not much here, but I'll say it anyways) my KD playing Dom solo, is higher than when partied up lol.
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Post by GodMars on Feb 11, 2015 15:01:36 GMT -5
Three pages in and iw still hasn't quit yet. This thread did not deliver.
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 11, 2015 16:33:48 GMT -5
Three pages in and iw still hasn't quit yet. This thread did not deliver. Maybe some of you shouldn't have helped me. I was feeling it for a bit. Now? Not quite so much (but still rage here and there) I did take advice from this thread and a few other. Advice that did really help in drastically reducing my rage moments. Even used one thing in our most recent clan war.
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Post by Will on Feb 11, 2015 18:08:50 GMT -5
W/L in cod hardly means anything most of the time. You need a party of 3+ to have any amount of control over the situation, and if youre just winning against a bunch of randoms then who cares. Stats mean next to nothing, I agree with that. I'm just saying in a match-by-match basis, all that matters is winning. That is the point of the game, or any game or sport or competition. You want to win. If you don't care about winning, why are you playing? At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how many goals or assists you have, it's all about winning that hockey game.
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 11, 2015 22:43:06 GMT -5
W/L in cod hardly means anything most of the time. You need a party of 3+ to have any amount of control over the situation, and if youre just winning against a bunch of randoms then who cares. Stats mean next to nothing, I agree with that. I'm just saying in a match-by-match basis, all that matters is winning. That is the point of the game, or any game or sport or competition. You want to win. If you don't care about winning, why are you playing? At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how many goals or assists you have, it's all about winning that hockey game. Anyone feeling that way should then be playing Clan Wars. That's all that matters there.
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Post by hard1ine on Feb 15, 2015 2:48:28 GMT -5
I don't blame you.
This game has become BAL of Duty: ASM Lagfare. It's garbage.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Feb 15, 2015 14:01:11 GMT -5
Even ignoring weapon balance it's a shit game made by people who have never done a multiplayer game. If they helped with MW3's MP they only did a little bit on top, because MW3 is significantly better than AW
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Post by Will on Feb 15, 2015 17:04:14 GMT -5
Even ignoring weapon balance it's a shit game made by people who have never done a multiplayer game. If they helped with MW3's MP they only did a little bit on top, because MW3 is significantly better than AW opinion. In my opinion, AW is the best COD in the series. There are some minor things about it that piss me off (weapon balance, RNG loot). But overall, I have more fun with AW than any other. And (also in my opinion), MW3 is the 2nd worst COD, between COD3 (worst) and Ghosts (3rd worst).
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Post by imrlybord7 on Feb 15, 2015 18:40:45 GMT -5
Even ignoring weapon balance it's a shit game made by people who have never done a multiplayer game. If they helped with MW3's MP they only did a little bit on top, because MW3 is significantly better than AW opinion. In my opinion, AW is the best COD in the series. There are some minor things about it that piss me off (weapon balance, RNG loot). But overall, I have more fun with AW than any other. And (also in my opinion), MW3 is the 2nd worst COD, between COD3 (worst) and Ghosts (3rd worst). You down to hivemind bruh?
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Feb 15, 2015 21:43:52 GMT -5
Even ignoring weapon balance it's a shit game made by people who have never done a multiplayer game. If they helped with MW3's MP they only did a little bit on top, because MW3 is significantly better than AW opinion. AW's spawns are worse, the weapon balance is worse, maps are worse and some weapons, regardless of balance, are literally broken. The RNG is stupid and at least on previous gen the game is SLOW AS HELL, navigating menus is a bitch. That's not an opinion (maybe the maps part is a bit subjective, but considering the size of the maps and the combination of exo suits it makes it unbearable.) MW3 was a shit game through and through, but at least it worked.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Feb 15, 2015 22:14:35 GMT -5
You give MW3 too much credit.
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Post by Will on Feb 15, 2015 22:32:29 GMT -5
AW's spawns are worse, the weapon balance is worse, maps are worse and some weapons, regardless of balance, are literally broken. The RNG is stupid and at least on previous gen the game is SLOW AS HELL, navigating menus is a bitch. That's not an opinion (maybe the maps part is a bit subjective, but considering the size of the maps and the combination of exo suits it makes it unbearable.) MW3 was a shit game through and through, but at least it worked. "That's not an opinion" Almost everythung you listed is a subjective opinion (except menu speed, which is not something I have encountered on XB1). "Worse" is not an objective word in the context you used. I agree with some of your points, and disagree with others. The spawns logic is most likely copy-pasted from other COD games, you just notice more bad spawns because of the heightened movement speed. It is absolutely impossible to have good spawns in this style of game (instant spawns, small maps). In my opinion, the maps are amazing in this game. Best since MW2.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Feb 15, 2015 22:38:58 GMT -5
AW's spawns are worse, the weapon balance is worse, maps are worse and some weapons, regardless of balance, are literally broken. The RNG is stupid and at least on previous gen the game is SLOW AS HELL, navigating menus is a bitch. That's not an opinion (maybe the maps part is a bit subjective, but considering the size of the maps and the combination of exo suits it makes it unbearable.) MW3 was a shit game through and through, but at least it worked. It is absolutely impossible to have good spawns in this style of game And that's a good thing because... Also weapon balance isn't an opinion. And the maps are entirely too small for the exo movement, as I said.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Feb 16, 2015 9:27:58 GMT -5
Spawns are very gametype dependent, I play mostly Kill Confirmed and rarely get a bad spawn. The only consistent exceptions are places where a central location far away from the spawn has a direct line of sight to the spawn, but there aren't too many places in the game that can create that scenario.
The maps are awesome. Except Instinct. Fuck Instinct.
Weapon balance is trash, but I just use the best guns so it's fine.
RNG for top tier weapons is awful. I mean the guns I use are good but better versions of them exist so I need them yesterday and will get them never. Fuck supply drops.
I had more fun with Black Ops 2 but I know that this has a better core game than any previous CoD. Black Ops 2 was old CoD with lane-funneling map design. This is straight up new CoD. It allows interesting things to happen during firefights that can actually play out interestingly.
The maps aren't too small, the game is just more dangerous because enemies are covering more ground in less time. Adapt or go do something else.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Feb 16, 2015 11:47:02 GMT -5
The spawns are God awful. Revenge kills were common in previous games, but they are absurd in this game. Spawns are better in objective modes, but still unacceptable. Spawns in TDM/KC are laughable.
I suspect that Will is right in that the spawn logic is identical to Black Ops 2 and it simply cannot cope with the increased verticality and exo movements.
Furthermore, the maps are objectively small. As in, they would be small even if we didn't have exo movements (with some exceptions). With exo movements, they are incredibly small.
...there's nothing wrong with that in of itself. The community has always preferred small maps over large ones and for good reason, but the density of these maps exaggerates the problems with the spawns.
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Post by bucket415 on Feb 16, 2015 15:30:54 GMT -5
bad. bad game is bad. bad.com bad. badfully bad.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Feb 16, 2015 18:57:57 GMT -5
But it could be much MUCH worse even without exos cough MW3 Ghosts cough cough. There were plenty of problems with those games, but spawns weren't one of them (aside from the spawn traps in every Call of Duty).
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Feb 16, 2015 19:37:33 GMT -5
Adapt or go do something else. Trust me I did, why would I want to adapt to Randomness? That's absurd.
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Post by Will on Feb 16, 2015 19:49:07 GMT -5
I went back to Titanfall now that I've completed all of the weapon camo challenges (except the couple of retarded ones I gave up on, like Skeet Shooter medals with the crossbow and Paladin destroys with the MAHEM). That is for solo play, though. When my friends are on and send me an invite, I jump right back in (and feel a short learning curve every time, coming from the smoothness of Titanfall). I'll come back in my solo time when they release the grandmaster prestige levels or whatever the hell Condrey cockteased me with a month ago.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Feb 16, 2015 20:13:13 GMT -5
Adapt or go do something else. Trust me I did, why would I want to adapt to Randomness? That's absurd. I guess I've had good luck with spawns. Game doesn't feel random to me at all, just forces me to play more conservatively at times.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Feb 16, 2015 20:26:13 GMT -5
Maybe KC has decent spawns, but TDM, Dom and to a certain extent War has shit spawns. I was watching some old MW3 and BO2 videos of mine (miss you Theater Mode) and the difference is very noticeable. Especially in Domination where I prefer to hold C/A and B and will either camp B or Camp C or both, depending on the map. Spawns constantly flip in AW, which made me stop playing Dom all together.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 17, 2015 2:33:56 GMT -5
Maybe KC has decent spawns, but TDM, Dom and to a certain extent War has shit spawns. I was watching some old MW3 and BO2 videos of mine (miss you Theater Mode) and the difference is very noticeable. Especially in Domination where I prefer to hold C/A and B and will either camp B or Camp C or both, depending on the map. Spawns constantly flip in AW, which made me stop playing Dom all together. i play war/momentum almost All the time (sometime i play HC KC) and the spawns are bad If you play against a party That try to spawns trap you, but against Just regular team they are oke-ish.....
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Post by Will on Feb 17, 2015 3:10:35 GMT -5
Search & Destroy has perfect spawns.
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