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Post by hebbnh on Mar 10, 2015 10:18:25 GMT -5
Nice vid hebbnh... but tragically, not everyone does 3 man Nightfalls with maxed out Gjallies wolfpacking the Priest to death. I think any launcher would do. Dude still had half his rockets left when the priest went down. It might take 15-20 seconds instead of 10, but it'd be practically the same result.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 10, 2015 8:57:47 GMT -5
Heh...no need for cheese on this one, just burn that mother down!
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 10, 2015 8:56:36 GMT -5
I wonder if Bungie might eventually make the DLCs free after a time. I know WoW does that with their expansions, but that's usually 2+ years down the line. I'm assuming other MMOs do that as well? It also wouldn't be an unprecedented move for Bungie, as they made Halo 2 (and I think Halo 3, but I could be wrong) map packs free downloads after 3 or 6 months, something like that. That could potentially help the player divide stuff, although I guess even if it does happen it might be too long from now to do much good. People who already have whatever DLC will likely have moved on to the next DLC and be focusing on that. Then again, we've been going back and playing "vanilla" content quite a bit lately, and if Bungie would wise up and add some new difficulty levels and incentives (331 VoG weapons, anyone?) for replaying older content, that could really help replayability while also uniting the playerbase. Probably a pipe dream, but who knows.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 9, 2015 10:57:40 GMT -5
Personally I'd have no issue with them adding matchmaking for raids, if and only if it's optional. If we get a group of 4 guys from here on to do Crota normal, I don't want to be stuck with 2 underleveled randos that we'll have to carry along, or who might sit AFK to freeload their way to raid gear. It's aggravating enough having that shit happen on strikes. Outside of that, let people matchmake all they want. It'll probably be a terrible experience for a lot of them, but at least the option is there.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 9, 2015 10:49:31 GMT -5
iw5000: Then I think the reality is that most of those people don't really want to raid, and/or don't really care that much about hitting 31/32. They're on the game for the story mode and to mindlessly shoot things for fun, not challenge themselves with finding a group and raiding. That's the conclusion I come to, anyway. If they really cared to do those activities, they'd be doing them. A lot of people buy CoD and only play single player. I can't imagine why, but it's true. I don't think that means the status quo isn't working, I think it means different people want different things out of their games. It's kind of an apples to oranges comparison, but I think it illustrates the point. Also, it's not like the Nightfall/Weekly/Daily are always locked for non-DLC players. It's maybe 50% of the time for dailies, and 25% or less for Nightfall/Weekly. Non-DLC players still have plenty of opportunities to get those rewards, just not as many as I think they should have. As far as people being stuck in the 20s forever? I dunno man. I really don't. I have a friend (twisted don -- can't remember if you were in a group with him at some point or not) that was the same way for quite a while. He kept bitching about how he couldn't get anywhere and was stuck at level 22 or something. THebb and I told him exactly what to do, what the fastest way to 31 would be. Get marks. Do public events as much as you can because that's the fastest way to get them IMO, 20 or 30 per hour easily, so he could have Vanguard marks capped in a couple days. Then play crucible to start getting those marks to spend too. Get enough marks and but some vendor gear. It'd take a couple weeks but then he'd be there. Done. And then he proceeded to keep doing nothing but bounties and Roc strikes while he was underleveled (i.e. dying all the time and having no fun), just like he was doing before, and complained that he wasn't making any progress because all it ever gave him was blue engrams and the bounties didn't give him legendary gear. That may or may not be a similar situation to what your friends have going on, but that's probably all it is for a lot of people -- they either don't know the best way to progress and haven't bothered to check, or they just don't care that much. I'll admit that the game doesn't do a good job (or any job, really) of explaining how to progress after level 20, but it's not that hard to figure it out either.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 9, 2015 10:06:26 GMT -5
Nice! I was going to ask what strategy you were using that you were having issues with the time constraints, but it looks like you've got it figured out already. On to Crota, eh? I know you have to stay in the center region by the mid steps...but I still don't understand the mechanisms (barriers) that cause the timer to go off. I did end up getting it done ...but don't know the details. I just stayed mid steps the whole time, and killed the ogres from there. The prior attempts, I was moving to far to the sides. I'm not sure why or what that was triggering. As a small bonus I suppose, I am very good now at going solo with a Warlock on the Bridge. I can do this very easily now, especially the jump portion* * but only going to the side ledge. I still can't figure out the invisible barriers off the high side jumps. I meant strategy for the Deathsinger part. Sorry I wasn't clear on that. I'm guessing the Ogre issue was going to far back on the sides. I know for sure that going up where the Ogre spawns on the right side will set off the totems, and I assume the same thing happens on the left side. Mid steps has always worked well for me. Glad you got the jump worked out!
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 9, 2015 9:36:17 GMT -5
Nice! I was going to ask what strategy you were using that you were having issues with the time constraints, but it looks like you've got it figured out already. On to Crota, eh?
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 9, 2015 9:33:27 GMT -5
- Most players don't raid because they simply don't have the social connections to group up with five other players. It's a nasty circular process. It's not just connections either. You to have to have other friends who are close to you in level, and have the specific time to group up on specific nights, to get the stuff done. It's not easy. You don't have all this lined up .....you then don't get Raid gear. AND then stay in that light level 25-28 range, which therefore makes it even harder to find people to raid with. Circular. Most people do not want to go to the hassle of LFG. That doesn't work for the masses. And as far as trying to get to level 30, via gear that's level 33, and other exotics? Read the next part... Two things. One, if you want to raid and don't have the social connections, go Foxtroting make some social connections. It's not that hard. People make it out to be some big ordeal -- it's not. Before I joined here, I would've been in that boat where it would've been me and THebb with nobody else to play with. I went out and did something about it. Sorry, but I can't feel sorry for people who want to raid but won't make an effort to find a group, I just can't. I'm not a particularly social person by any means, and it was pretty gosh darn golly gee whiz easy for me to find a group to play with. Two, anyone can be level 31 from vendor gear in 2 or 3 weeks. Literally anyone. Nobody is stuck at 25-28 because they can't raid. Nothing in the next part has anything to do with it. All you have to do is grind out vendor marks which anyone can do at any time, and then you're geared well enough for CE normal (if you have the DLC) or VoG. - The above is made worse by the DLC splitting bullsh1t. And again, it's wrong. I am just amazed at how people don't get this. DLC is supposed to be EXTRA content that is optional for people to buy. Extra content that enhances the gaming experience over and above those non-buyers. When Bungie put in their DLC, they pretty much did the opposite. They ripped away part of the game from people who bought it. And this affected the casuals, the above people who didn't raid. These people paid their $60 for a game, that gave them these things to do when running solo: - Story Missions (no rewards) - Vanguard Missions (ok rewards) - Bounties (no real rewards) - Dailies (ok rewards) - The Weekly (good/great rewards - plus single biggest way to get coins, which gets Exotics) - The Nightfall (great rewards) Bungie just douchebagged it up and ripped the last two pieces of the game, right from the hands of the people who had bought it (or was it the last three?) Those people spent $60 and then had 40% of their game stolen from them. And the part of the game that still allowed them decent prizes without having to raid. That is wrong. Anyone arguing differently, you need a reality checvk, as that goes against everything historically fair about purchasing console games. And perhaps, just maybe, that's why Destiny is becoming more and more dead. It's a ghosttown. Casuals have left this game. Period. It's just difficult to advance up when just doing bounties, story missions and ROC missions. You go nowhere. You run in place. You then quit. And the above also ties directly into my first point, on why most of the Destiny population hasn't raided yet. Two crucial pieces of gaming that might help these people, Bungie ripped right from them I agree 100% that Bungie shouldn't lock non-DLC players out of Nightfalls/Weeklies/Dailies/Xur on some weeks. I don't think it'd be that hard to implement a dual rotation that'd give them something to do. I agree that something that they had at launch has been taken away from them, and that's not right. On the other hand, non-DLC players have access to level 31 vendor gear and 331 attack weapons, so they also did get some added stuff. I don't think that makes up for losing Nightfalls and whatnot, but it's something at least. As far as casuals leaving because it's too difficult to advance when doing bounties, Roc strikes, and whatnot? I just flat disagree there. It's extremely simple to advance -- you get enough marks to buy vendor gear, buy the vendor gear, upgrade that gear (which, granted, is going to take longer if you can't get the AMs for dailies or whatever, but still), and hit level 31. There's nothing inherently difficult about it. It just takes some time. It's not like raiding was a magic ticket to 32 where you do CE once and you're there, at least not for most people. Either way though, casuals were bound to leave the game sooner or later. I'd be more concerned with the lack of Touch Football players at this point. Most of that is due to burnout or boredom, because there's nothing left for them to do. The game has been out 6 months -- people are ready to do something else for a while. Whether or not those people come back with the HoW DLC is probably the biggest factor for the future of the game. I mean, look at our group. We've basically quit doing CE on hard because it's not as much fun as normal, and we're doing VoG stuff as much or more than CE now. Personally I have every exotic, 3 level 32 characters, almost every raid weapon I want, and a bunch of mats stored up. I don't really have any reason to play other than trying to help people here out. I actually spent all my playtime this weekend grinding out Ogre, Hydra, Colossus, and Psion kils for Grimoire score because I had nothing better to do. I've been doing more PvP lately for the same reason. There's just nothing left in PvE that's worth my time. I just bought Rocksmith 2014 -- if I'm going to dump hundreds of hours into a game, I might as well try to pick up a real world skill while I'm at it, right? -- so I imagine my time for Destiny will get cut down significantly very soon. I'll probably be in for Tuesday/Thursday stuff like always, but otherwise I'm pretty much done with the game.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 8, 2015 20:52:37 GMT -5
Question. Playing some Crota Raid solo tonight. Normal I'm on the bridge section. Nailing the jump every freaking time. But.... After killing the first Ogre, the game times out and I die. Haven't done this in a while, what step am I forgeting? It should be easy now, one Ogre down, kill the second, advance on. But it ain't happening .... By "game times out" I'm assuming you mean the totems go off? Where are you going once you cross the gap?
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 6, 2015 16:18:56 GMT -5
Mmmm...bourbon.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 5, 2015 15:40:47 GMT -5
I switched from regular soda to diet in high school, and promptly dropped 20 or 25 pounds over a couple months. I've been drinking diet ever since -- regular is just too sweet for my tastes now anyway. Plot twist: I work for an independent, family-owned Pepsi franchise. That probably colors my viewpoint a little, but still, I've never seen anything conclusive that would convince me that soda, at least in moderation, is bad for you. There's a whole bunch of "may," "could be," "might be," junk out there that can pretty easily be dismissed with the phrase "correlation does not equal causation," and no study I've ever seen controlled for other dietary or lifestyle factors that could just as easily be responsible for whatever the study concludes soda might be responsible for.
I mean, yeah, if you're drinking a 2L bottle of Dew every day, that's probably not the best thing for you, but neither is a whole bunch of other stuff that nobody seems to care about. You don't see MSN putting up articles every week about how eating too many twinkies is bad for you. Personally I think the whole thing is a big witch hunt. People need something to blame their problems on, and soda is what they settled on because it's an easy target. It's a lot harder to say, "Gee, maybe I'm fat because I lead a sedentary lifestyle, eat poorly, and never exercise," than it is to say "I'm fat because soda." And don't even get me started on some of the soda tax nonsense that some cities and/or states are pushing. I mean, if you want to tax sugary stuff, tax ALL the sugary stuff, don't just single out one thing and call it a day. The logic there is just baffling. Anyway...that's my rant for today.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 5, 2015 14:08:07 GMT -5
Heh...we'll see. I'm on day 4 of no soda. Well, technically not no soda because I had 3 mixed drinks at bowling league last night that had Diet Dew in them, but no soda apart from that. I averaged 4-5 cans a day at a minimum for the last couple years, and the lack of caffeine is messing with me. Today is better than the first couple days though.
Tuesday night was rough. I jumped in with THebb, Post, Wine Cracker, and a couple other guys for Atheon, and literally couldn't do anything right. I think I said 3 words the whole time, got killed by Atheon due to my own stupidity, then gave up and called it quits. My head just wasn't in the game at all, and there wasn't any sense in subjecting everyone else to that.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 5, 2015 13:14:13 GMT -5
I'm in for whatever, and I'll make sure to drink my coffee so hopefully I won't be tired and cranky like I was on Tuesday night.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 4, 2015 11:19:27 GMT -5
3 Nightfalls last night. Got an Icebreaker (already have 3, so an exotic shard), a Legendary engram (crappy AR, broke down immediately), and a Legendary rocket launcher (also crappy, broke down immediately).
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 4, 2015 10:08:45 GMT -5
You on normal or hard? The "Deathsinger prepares her song" message pops as soon as you exit the starting room. It used to start later, like when you first damaged an enemy or something like that, so that may be the change you're thinking of. Anyway, on normal you have 2.5 minutes between that message popping and the Liturgy beginning -- the Liturgy lasts 30 seconds, so 3 minutes total to complete the whole encounter. On hard you have approximately half that much time.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 3, 2015 16:38:47 GMT -5
So what'd that dude get the first time he completed a Nightfall this week?
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 3, 2015 15:47:13 GMT -5
Just saw that on Reddit. So much faster than the room to the left of the entrance. Going to try this tonight for sure.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 3, 2015 14:30:34 GMT -5
Actually, that makes me wonder...would you consider these cool or not cool? Obviously some of these no longer exist.
1. Crota Abyss lamp launch 2. Crota Abyss rock jump 3. Crota Bridge "sword fly" across the gap instead of building the bridge to cross 4. Strike boss cheese spots (they're all different takes on the same thing, no reason to list individually) 5. AOE grenades to push Templar/Atheon off the map 6. Shooting Oracles from up top against Templar 7. Crota Bridge jumping to the top of the map to snipe across the gap 8. Shooting ammo boxes multiple times with a "shoot to loot" weapon 9. Purposefully dumping all ammo, then killing with Icebreaker to force heavy ammo to drop 10. Disconnecting vs Crota to keep him kneeling at all times
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 3, 2015 14:21:01 GMT -5
If Bungie hadn't taken 6 Foxtroting months to fix the heavy ammo bug, there's a good chance the heavy ammo "glitch" wouldn't be so popular. It's ok though -- I'm sure they'll find a way to fix the glitch much more quickly than the bug since it's actually helping players. Until then, I'll be using it as often as I can while saving up my synths for the ammo glitch-less future!
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 3, 2015 10:14:07 GMT -5
I'm almost tempted to bring out my freshly acquired Necrochasm for this, but...no. Fatebringer/Oversoul Edict, Murmur, and Thunderlord should do nicely. When did you get the Necrochasm? Witty, THebb, and I all got it from our two Crota kills last night. We invited you like 6 times...guess you were AFK?
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 3, 2015 10:12:27 GMT -5
May I ask why no Patience and Time as the exotic in your lineup hebbnh? Is it because you want to use your Thunderlord by personal preference, or is it superior? I don't have it, so I'm curious EDIT: I do like the addition of Murmur, to switch between arc and solar (primarily for the shanks)... hadn't thought about that I don't have one anymore. Never used it, so it got sharded for inventory space. Kind of wish I still had one now, but oh well. Thunderlord is the bomb, yo!
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 3, 2015 9:45:45 GMT -5
I'm almost tempted to bring out my freshly acquired Necrochasm for this, but...no. Fatebringer/Oversoul Edict, Murmur, and Thunderlord should do nicely.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 3, 2015 9:40:57 GMT -5
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 2, 2015 14:27:06 GMT -5
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 2, 2015 13:54:42 GMT -5
They still suck. They just don't f%%king suck. Preupdate: f%%king suck Postupdate: suck What will make them not suck: increasing their range If two or three shotting a yellow health minotaur or VoG Preatorian is your definition of suck...then I don't know what to tell you, other than every other weapon type outside of rocket launchers sucks too. What shotgun(s) are you using?
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 2, 2015 13:48:29 GMT -5
Shotguns are almost OP after the patch, LOL. Killing yellow health Captains/Praetorians/Centurions has never been easier.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 2, 2015 13:46:19 GMT -5
What's everybody's priority these days? Honestly, I don't even know anymore, LOL. I guess Nightfall - Raid (no preference on which) - Weekly - whatever else. I have all the exotics (weapons and armor) except Necrochasm. I have large piles of almost every material imaginable on all three of my characters. I'm basically out of "productive" things to do -- I've been playing Rumble and Clash this week as part of working towards maxing out my Grimoire score, as pointless as that is. It's nice in a way, as I don't feel like I have to get anything in particular done anymore. I just play whatever sounds interesting at the time.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 2, 2015 12:38:53 GMT -5
I probably will be. Still need 3 HM Crota kills and am happy to help out with whatever else anyone needs.
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Post by hebbnh on Mar 2, 2015 11:18:30 GMT -5
Two possible reasons you're seeing more shotguns now than before, despite them being nerfed in PvP:
1. People just got their Felwinter's Lies leveled up, and are itching to use them. Usage confirms that Felwinter's Lie dominates other shotguns as far as 1SK capability goes, so they continue using it. 2. Fusion rifles may have been nerfed harder than shotguns, so fusion rifle users have switched to shotguns. I don't use FRs, so I don't know how accurate that is, but it did seem that I survived more FR bursts at medium-ish range than I did before. That could be related to lag or other factors, though.
Red Death is now a two burst kill if you hit headshots, and a three burst kill otherwise. I don't think it's quite on the same level as The Last Word or Thorn, but it's arguably the #3 PvP primary after those two.
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Post by hebbnh on Feb 27, 2015 16:52:47 GMT -5
People got trapped into the doing re-roll stuff, without ever thinking about what exactly they are getting out of what might be hours and hours of extra work (15 bounties? More?) You get a new piece that has say 25 extra points...do the math. Your 'discipline' might go from say 75% to 85%. All that's doing is reducing your cool-down from like 35 seconds to maybe 32/31 seconds. And when you consider kills moving that down, the difference might even be less. Is it really worth the effort? Eh...there's a good chance I was going to be doing those bounties to level weapons or different pieces of gear anyway, so it's not really any extra effort. Might as well kill another bird with that stone while I'm at it.
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