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Post by scb on May 29, 2010 2:27:24 GMT -5
If there were no distinction between primary and secondary and you could run any two weapons in the game, which would you pick? Assume that however movement speed gets computed would be something similar to what it is now or something equally logical. Assume also they have to be different from each other.
I was talking to fuzzy in another thread, comparing the MP5k to the PP2000, mentioning how I thought machine pistols have a drawback just by virtue of their being secondaries (keeping you from the specialty secondaries; shotgun and launcher). So if you were given total freedom in your choice of weapons, would it change anything for you?
(I'm still thinking about it, I'll let you know)
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Post by thefuzzychickensz on May 29, 2010 2:50:25 GMT -5
I figured most people would still run shotties and MPs and SMGs and alike with their Sniper Rifles. But, in all honesty I've always wanted to go with either an MP or Shotgun with a handgun.
Are launchers still included in this non-segregated weapon system?
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Post by scb on May 29, 2010 2:55:32 GMT -5
Sure. If you want to Javelin OMA, go right ahead.
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Post by ssog on May 29, 2010 4:02:18 GMT -5
Tar w/ Tube Riot Shield </thread>
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Post by ryan on May 29, 2010 10:55:03 GMT -5
I'd run M14 EBR suppressed. Then either the UMP .45 suppressed or just stick with the M93r suppressed. Depending on whether I wanted that fast switch or not. UMP .45 is probably better since there's no primary/secondary restriction.
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Post by comicstud on May 29, 2010 11:18:58 GMT -5
Intervention/Scar
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Post by vardinator on May 29, 2010 12:28:51 GMT -5
If Overkill made a return, I'd use two M16s. One would have a red dot sight, one would have a holographic sight. I would proceed to laugh at the lack of ammo sharing between the SAME GUN! >_<
In all seriousness:
AR Class: AK-47, any given SMG. SMG Class: Any given SMG, AK-47
I would never use Overkill on a Sniper, LMG or Riot Shield class. With those weapons especially, you NEED to use a pistol or pistols if anyone rushes you. Everything else is, in my opinion, too slow to draw.
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Post by ][nquisitor Mateo on May 29, 2010 13:24:55 GMT -5
UMP 45 w/silencer M21 EBR or WA 2000 w/silencer Scavenger Pro Cold Blooded Pro Ninja Pro
That would be the only class that I ever need. Close Range win, Long range win, stealth, and 100% speed. And it slaughters in HC.
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Post by tplazarno on May 29, 2010 13:27:01 GMT -5
M4A1 with a tube or red dot Ak47 with a tube or red dot.
Both of them are amazing. I prestiged a bit over a week ago, maybe two, so I don't have the ak47 yet. I decided on this run-through I would use the m4a1 the entire time(until I get the ak, and with some variation sometimes). Then I realized how awesome it is.
And the AK is just like a scar with 2x the awesome and 1.5x the mag size. The sway doesn't change anything unless you are overly picky. It moves so slow that you can easily adjust at range.
It would be interesting if you could have secondaries as primarys in this game, excluding launchers. I could work on leveling my m93/pp2k and run a shotgun at the same time.
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Post by c5k0 on May 29, 2010 15:21:20 GMT -5
For giggles I'd run with Spas + RPG.
For general game play, I'd love to have Barrett + SMG's akimbo'd.
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Post by ][nquisitor Mateo on May 29, 2010 19:49:25 GMT -5
I would also have 1 other class:
RPG One Man Army Pro Danger Close Pro Sit Rep Pro
Campers here I come!
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Post by fortynfive on May 29, 2010 21:48:46 GMT -5
Intervention FMJ / Suppressed ACR - SOH Pro/Overkill/Sit Rep Pro
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Post by scb on May 29, 2010 22:27:04 GMT -5
This thought experiment doesn't require Overkill, so don't let that hold you back if you want to run something that requires some other perk 2.
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Post by toysrme on May 30, 2010 6:12:32 GMT -5
L86+EM RPD+EM SCP,SP,SAP
had a team 2night with 4 LMG's spawn trap A flag on highrise. was absolutely hillarious. 150 rounds AND having scavanger the ammo just seems to last forever. you literally dont die until an enemy spawns with: A) danger close tube pointing at you B) sniper spawns and shoots a bullet 3' away from your current position. which kills you because the fucking auto-aim decides console newbs should get kills regardless of their sight being on the target, or off the target.
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Post by chyros on May 30, 2010 7:50:13 GMT -5
ACR suppressed SCAR-H suppressed
no weaknesses at any range or under any circumstance
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Post by ][nquisitor Mateo on May 30, 2010 13:15:44 GMT -5
Except that my UMP beats you at close and medium range and my M21 beats you at long range.
And I move 5% faster.
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Post by avemcree on May 30, 2010 13:44:36 GMT -5
Im getting mad just thinking about that RPG OMA class.... think god launchers are 2ndaries
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Post by ][nquisitor Mateo on May 30, 2010 15:25:17 GMT -5
Imagine a team of them in ground war.
Flying C4 FTW!
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Post by battleaxerx on May 31, 2010 17:39:56 GMT -5
I think... AUG and... EBR
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Post by Dissentia on May 31, 2010 20:28:52 GMT -5
Silenced/Holo FAL Silenced/RDS TAR
Bling SP Ninja
Claymore/Flash
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Post by thefuzzychickensz on May 31, 2010 21:02:23 GMT -5
B&T MP9 (otherwise the Steyr TMP) with High-Capacity mags. Akimbo Beretta M9s. Fragmentation Grenade, Stun Grenades. Scavenger, Lightweight, Steady Aim, Copycat.
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Post by ArrrhImAPirate on Jun 1, 2010 0:23:39 GMT -5
Javelin AT4/RPG
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Post by n1gh7 on Jun 1, 2010 0:36:05 GMT -5
The only reason that I can't think of anything that can't be done currently is that the Raise/Drop times are to high for me to use anything but a handgun/M93 and a primary.
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Post by keeko on Jun 1, 2010 0:58:12 GMT -5
AA-12 extended mags rocket launcher scavenger any tier 2 perk ninja or sitrep pro somebody slap me ;D
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Post by qupie on Jun 1, 2010 6:43:30 GMT -5
L86+EM RPD+EM SCP,SP,SAP had a team 2night with 4 LMG's spawn trap A flag on highrise. was absolutely hillarious. 150 rounds AND having scavanger the ammo just seems to last forever. you literally dont die until an enemy spawns with: A) danger close tube pointing at you B) sniper spawns and shoots a bullet 3' away from your current position. which kills you because the Foxtrotting auto-aim decides console newbs should get kills regardless of their sight being on the target, or off the target. stop bitchin at console ppl, because you cheat your way out of the crappy (thats what you said) controllers, so you shouldn't even complain about anything or just go to PC!! I would run: Tar21 + silencer / ACR + silencer M1014 + EM SOH SP Ninja Pro oh wait, I can allready do that dominance on all ranges. (you can easily beat a sniper on long range, if you would not have any lag.
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Post by roboblitz on Jun 1, 2010 12:40:56 GMT -5
I'd go with SPAs + riot shield marathon/SP/ninja I'd just run CONSTANTLY and never have to worry about checking my 6. this is assuming the shottie maintained SMG run speed
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Post by roguehunter on Jun 1, 2010 20:10:36 GMT -5
m16 holo ump silenced marathon/sp/ninja
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Post by qupie on Jun 2, 2010 5:07:06 GMT -5
lol @ above, why in hell would you choose an UMP if you allready have a decent gun for long range and have SP? just go for any other SMG then.... but Fam16+MP5 + mara,SP,Ninja seems to be a very nice deal! but still, a shotgun is soo lovely....
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Post by ssog on Jun 2, 2010 5:23:29 GMT -5
The only reason that I can't think of anything that can't be done currently is that the Raise/Drop times are to high for me to use anything but a handgun/M93 and a primary. Riot Shield as a secondary would blow everything else out of the water, imo. Full movespeed, shield on your back, and the ability to pull it out when the situation demanded (capping a flag, escaping a spawn trap, peeking around a corner) without sacrificing your primary weapon... it's all too tasty to pass up.
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Post by roboblitz on Jun 2, 2010 12:27:54 GMT -5
Riot Shield as a secondary would blow everything else out of the water, imo. Full movespeed, shield on your back, and the ability to pull it out when the situation demanded (capping a flag, escaping a spawn trap, peeking around a corner) without sacrificing your primary weapon... it's all too tasty to pass up. exactly. I could possibly go for an MP5K as my primary instead of the SPAs, just to have a bit more range flexibility
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