sniper hip firing aka "G-Shot"

[dndead]

Hi everyone i have a question i couldn't find using the search so i decided it might be worth the new thread.
most players should know about the g-shot, a trick allowing the user to accurately fire from hip with a sniper rifle. I'm not going to explain how to do that, there's plenty of videos on youtube and there's more than 1 method.
my question is, how exactly does it work? i like to do it often but i'm only successful half the time, so i thought if someone were to figure out how it works then i might be better at it.

thanks

You are my bro, bro.

[slashdolo]

it doesnt work, its pure luck

[imrlybord7]

Does AimAssist have the same range from the hip as it does while ADS?
Also, there has to be something to it, because it just works too well at ridiculous ranges.

[slashdolo]

it doesnt work

if you fire from the hip it will go anywhere in the crosshair at random, if you hit a target, its luck

[qupie]

ok, so if you get shot by the same guy 5 times in a TDM with an sniper noscope at about 50 meters, that's all luck?

[imrlybord7]

There has got to be something to it. I've seen people consistently hit long range no scopes. But seriously, does anyone know if the aim assist range is the same from the hip as it is for ADS? That might be an explanation.

[slashdolo]

if you want to prove to me its not luck, get some g-shot master to hip fire at a wall from a good distance away 10 times in a row

if the bullet lands dead center all 10 times, then its not luck

until then, i'm saying its pure luck

[shadz]

Not sure tbh, I've always thought it's luck but one of my mates on PSN is ace at no scoping, I'm serious he hits like 90% of his no scopes and there's never any sign of him being impressed.

Not sure how he does it mind, he just claims he 'just does it'

[dndead]

i know its not luck, i've sat there with a sniper just shooting seeing how many shots i go through before i get a hit. then i try it again doing the trick and it's significantly fewer shots, usually 2-4 shots depending on distance.

[slashdolo]

^its all in your head and is pure luck

[imrlybord7]

Why has nobody taken my aim assist theory into account???

[crazylad10]

i only play as a sniper and it isn't just pure luck, there is different ways of having a slight movement which sends the bullet straight as i tried it both on ps3 and pc, and it works and i think the aim assist most have something to do as on the ps3 it happened so much easier and would be alot more accurate.

and it ISN'T pure luck!

[qupie]

Apr 6, 2009 20:11:26 GMT -5 slashdolo said:

^its all in your head and is pure luck

dude, isn't there ANYthing you can say or ad to this topic instead of this rubish? Don't get me wrong, you can say whatever you want bro, but yust explain yourself allitle bit more. What do you have to say to vid's where somebody shoots in hipfire about 10 times for a kill, and with the trick in about 2/3 times... How could that be luck all the time? explain yourself or just don't say anything...

Aim assist will probebly help with this I think, but I tried it yesterday and it is pretty hard to do IMO. But I think I do it sometimes per accident as I start emptying a garand/scope clip on somebody very close ;D (That is just REALLY lovely to do)

[slashdolo]

I HAVE explained myself. No one else has explained WHY I should believe it isnt luck. Why do you believe it, because Grizz uses this method? Because he records for a straight month getting lucky shots for his montages? His K/D ratio is like 1.20 so obviously it doesnt work too well or he'd have a 2+ K/D probably.

It is luck until someone does what I said to do; hipfire at a wall 10 times doing this trick and if it doesnt hit the center every time its luck. Hell, I'll take 5 times.

It's like talking about Big Foot or The Tooth Fairy and its just a myth until it is proven.

Getting back to back hipfire kills with an ACOG Stopping Power M40 that kills in 1 shot ANYWHERE to the body is not impossible to do. In fact it is quite easy. Just because you kill someone with this method does not mean the bullet went to the center of the screen which is what you're claiming. It can hit ANYWHERE on a person and they'll drop.

[crazylad10]

right i ad 2 do pics which are fully true and i did not cheat,

i shot from here ok


after ten shots at the wall with the sniper the bullets where here


and be4 any 1 says i didn't use scope as i wanted it all 2 be true and not fake.

[imrlybord7]

The first image isn't loading. Where did you shoot from?
Nevermind, it loaded. It just took about 10 minutes. Lol.

[shadz]

Erm, Crazy, we don't know it's not fake
Video it and you've got it.

[Den]

Oh, you guyze.
The cause is Hip Spread Decay. Imagine that a hitch in the system causes the crosshair spread to decay all the way down to zero and then return to the MinSpread after a brief moment.
The effective window of time for a stop-shot type is around one second after the crosshair minimizes.

[dog]

So... how is that done?

[imrlybord7]

I'm going to go test what crazylad did. I won't have pics or video, so you'll have to take my word, but obviously you are free to try it yourself if you don't believe me. Be back soon. BTW my setup will be...
M40 w/ ACOG and Blue Tiger
USP silenced
Stun
Bandolier
Stopping Power
Steady Aim

[imrlybord7]

crazylad's is most definitely fake. I took the shots from the same place he did, aimed at the same place he did. 1 shot hit the wall below the upper floor. 3 shots hit in around the same spot his shots hit, but not in nearly as tight a grouping. 1 shot hit the wall to the left of the door to that room. I could not find the other 5 shots. I should note that I actually aimed a little bit further to the left than he did, but that just means that the 1 shot to the left of the door isn't as terribly inaccurate as it sounds. Also, in crazylad's picture he is crouching, but I did it standing because that is how most people no-scope.
Also, I tried "spraying" from the hip while standing where crazy stood in the second picture, and the grouping was almost as accurate as his was from all the way back there. So obviously, this is a fake. I still believe that there has to be a trick to it, though. I am decent at it and my results showed that you could easily hit the blind side of a barn from long range. Plus, there was no enemy there, so maybe aim assist would have come into play if there was.

[slashdolo]

Yup, I want video proof here, no fake images. Of course NO ONE will ever post a vid because it ISN'T possible.

[zombiejesus]

Slashdolo, there are plenty of UNedited videos of zzirGrizz playing COD4 and no-scoping people one after the other, if you'd just take the time to search for them. It DOES work, you're in denial.

[slashdolo]

I'm not asking for afew back to back no scopes with a weapon that can one hit kill anywhere to the body. It's NOT that hard to achieve with steady aim and it could all be coincidence.

I am asking for undeniable proof that there is a technique to this that makes the bullet hit the center of the crosshair every single time like Grizz claims. Until i get that proof, I deem thee fake.

[mannon]

The video montage definitely proves nothing since it is edited. His demo footage seems to support the idea that it does work, with him making some pretty good shots at long ranges, but it's not really done as proof. I've seen other vids, but none showing a wall grouping.

[mannon]

Also my testing isn't getting anything much of results. Sometimes I fire the whole clip and get a good group and other times it's all over the place, which is on par with random luck.

So either I'm not doing it right (possible) or it doesn't work (also possible). heh

[crazylad10]

mine are not fake my m8 gave me the technique of when you shoot you crouch and move to a side and it will go in the same spot mostly everytime, which i did and from the results i got it worked and they are not fake cos i'm not that kind of person ok bros

[imrlybord7]

I didn't crouch, although I can't imagine it making that huge of a difference.
That said, I've been doing some no-scoping lately, and there is definitely more to it than luck.

[mannon]

Then let me ask about the technique. I've seen it done two different ways.

The first was to strafe one direction then change directions and fire when the crosshairs were smallest. I'm a little iffy on the exact timing, whether you fire when you change directions or if the crosshairs actually dip just after as you have to first break your momentum to begin moving the other direction, and thus would want to fire when you are moving least.

The other method I saw was to start off by standing still and then strafe or move back right when firing.

Have you guys tried both?

Anyone willing (and able) to video this with and without the technique against a wall?

[crazylad10]

i have tried both of those techniques on the pc, and the one tht works the best in u stand, and as u are goin 2 pull the trigger you crouch and move in any direction OR do the same put prone and it makes the crosshairs smaller and centers the bullet off and works 9/10 and i did it in my pics and only 1 was slightly off line (the 1 tht is on the right and below the rest) tht 1 didn't work fully right and for me this is the best technique for pc