aequinox
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Post by aequinox on Jan 23, 2011 1:09:33 GMT -5
So the green is ACOG? What about Rapid Fire? And how in the world are you going to do it for something like the AK-74u, with Rapid Fire, Grip, and ACOG? And then what about the combinations of those attachments? I don't think it'll look so hot.
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Post by Ishbane on Jan 23, 2011 6:52:05 GMT -5
So the green is ACOG? What about Rapid Fire? And how in the world are you going to do it for something like the AK-74u, with Rapid Fire, Grip, and ACOG? And then what about the combinations of those attachments? I don't think it'll look so hot. Simple: I won't. Tried different artistic approaches with added RF and it wasn't readable anymore. It's not that much of an impact anyway, even when paired with an ACOG. |
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Post by qupie on Jan 25, 2011 6:35:24 GMT -5
maybe you could do rapid fire for smg and acog for the AR? as anybody who wants to use acog on his smg allready knows it is going to suck, but I would love to see the effects of rapid fire on recoil...
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Post by Ishbane on Jan 25, 2011 8:38:49 GMT -5
ACOG for ARs' already been added (lime green).
I guess i can add RF-only.
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Post by qupie on Jan 25, 2011 10:50:56 GMT -5
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Post by generalawesomo on Jan 26, 2011 5:17:40 GMT -5
The scope reticle you have displayed for the L96A1 is wrong. It's not the same as the WA2000. It's a duplex reticle without any rangefinder.
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Post by MastaQ on Feb 8, 2011 15:09:03 GMT -5
Just a couple of other really minor things: The Galil and AK74U don't show the special "ACOG" scope they get like the AK-47 and RPK. Also, the M60 ROF is missing the .7 at the end.
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Post by MastaQ on Feb 8, 2011 19:53:28 GMT -5
Just found out the Dragunov has the same special ACOG after picking up one in a bot match. I think I'm gonna go though all of the weapons and see if there are any other special ones.
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Post by asasa on Feb 8, 2011 20:47:30 GMT -5
Any chance you'd add the M60 Grip spread pattern? Thanks
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Post by Ishbane on Feb 9, 2011 4:19:22 GMT -5
Uni is currently taking it's toll, of course i'll get around to it.
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Post by scorp on Feb 9, 2011 13:51:22 GMT -5
I can't view the chart anymore on my iPod. I would assume this is because it's now flash? Is it? Could you possibly post up the most recent non-flash version by any chance?
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Post by scorp on Feb 9, 2011 14:02:19 GMT -5
Nevermind, found a good version on your deviantART page.
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Post by duckcall00 on Feb 11, 2011 15:07:26 GMT -5
The snipers now have a 2.0 multiplier to the head and neck.
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Post by Ishbane on Feb 11, 2011 16:17:21 GMT -5
Not on my PC, they don't.
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Post by reiyu on Feb 16, 2011 17:52:45 GMT -5
i can see that the makarov dual wield hipfire spread is 3-7. in den's flash, he has 4-7. can you confirm?
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Post by Ishbane on Feb 16, 2011 18:00:25 GMT -5
i can see that the makarov dual wield hipfire spread is 3-7. in den's flash, he has 4-7. can you confirm? It's 3-7. Not like it matters, when you are running dual secondaries, you are running (literally). |
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Post by reiyu on Feb 16, 2011 21:08:03 GMT -5
Not like it matters, when you are running dual secondaries, you are running (literally). true. thanks for the confirmation. |
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Post by keeko on Feb 24, 2011 1:46:33 GMT -5
nothing to add. just... thankyou ishbane
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Post by psijaka on Feb 28, 2011 17:11:27 GMT -5
I'd appreciate if you could do a full list for all guns and allow me to add them to the chart. Found this on the "How does centerspeed work" thread. Feel free to add the figures from the Recoil Chart to your excellent chart, ishbane. I am happy enough with the second shot figures, but the 3rd and 4th shot probabilities should be treated with caution. |
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Post by Contrary on Feb 28, 2011 18:53:03 GMT -5
wait WTF do the M1911s have a faster rof when akimboed? furrealz?
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Post by MastaQ on Mar 1, 2011 0:55:38 GMT -5
wait WTF do the M1911s have a faster rof when akimboed? furrealz? Yep, tested it out myself. Sounds great in theory, but dual ASPs are still better. |
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Post by adyc00l on Mar 11, 2011 17:43:55 GMT -5
After seeing this chart, I started to use the Enfield + ACOG... and I've been owning ever since! Thanks dude!
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Post by adyc00l on Mar 11, 2011 17:58:06 GMT -5
Also for anyone interested... The rpm of the semi autos is a bit misleading.
In my opinion, the semi's should be changed to 480~ rpm max...
I tested my rapid fire controller at:
10 sps - jammed
9 sps - slow/jerky
8 sps - pretty stable
7 sps - stable
6 sps - slow/pointless
So 8 sps is the highest speed possible really.
8 sps x 60 = 480 rpm so not quite as high as advertised.
7 sps x 60 = 420 rpm just a nice speed with low recoil.
Obviously your finger fluctuates in speeds - but as with everything in Black Ops, they need to rethink this one. Semi ARs have BIG hip fire, and crap accuracy, so there is no point in using them.
For the record, rapid fire controllers ARE lame - but yes I did mod one of my controllers so I could use the turbo charged G3 in CoD4 lol, but it's basically obsolete now.
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Post by aequinox on Mar 11, 2011 20:33:30 GMT -5
After seeing this chart, I started to use the Enfield + ACOG... and I've been owning ever since! Thanks dude! ACOG... makes it worse? |
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Post by MastaQ on Mar 11, 2011 22:37:50 GMT -5
Also for anyone interested... The rpm of the semi autos is a bit misleading. In my opinion, the semi's should be changed to 480~ rpm max... I tested my rapid fire controller at: 10 sps - jammed 9 sps - slow/jerky 8 sps - pretty stable 7 sps - stable 6 sps - slow/pointless So 8 sps is the highest speed possible really. 8 sps x 60 = 480 rpm so not quite as high as advertised. 7 sps x 60 = 420 rpm just a nice speed with low recoil. Obviously your finger fluctuates in speeds - but as with everything in Black Ops, they need to rethink this one. Semi ARs have BIG hip fire, and crap accuracy, so there is no point in using them. For the record, rapid fire controllers ARE lame - but yes I did mod one of my controllers so I could use the turbo charged G3 in CoD4 lol, but it's basically obsolete now. Actually the M14 has AR hipfire, it's the FAL which has the huge hipfire. Really the M14 is the semi-auto AR to use, IMO, unless you REALLY want dual mags or you hate the M14 irons and don't want to use a sight. |
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Post by aequinox on Mar 12, 2011 0:28:44 GMT -5
Unless you fire at any decent rate and your recoil takes you up and over the enemy and you don't want to keep adjusting your aim so that you're staring at your feet by the time you're done firing.
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Post by MastaQ on Mar 12, 2011 0:33:12 GMT -5
Unless you fire at any decent rate and your recoil takes you up and over the enemy and you don't want to keep adjusting your aim so that you're staring at your feet by the time you're done firing. The Grip largely solves that for me. I don't try to risk being too liberal with my trigger finger otherwise it'll jam. Not to mention the FAL has nearly as much vertical recoil with more sideways kick. |
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Post by adyc00l on Mar 12, 2011 15:29:07 GMT -5
After seeing this chart, I started to use the Enfield + ACOG... and I've been owning ever since! Thanks dude! ACOG... makes it worse? I thought it would but with high sensitivity, ACOGs really are good for long/medium range killing |
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Post by adyc00l on Mar 12, 2011 15:31:20 GMT -5
With the headshot multiplyer, AR hip fire, the M14+grip is the only way. Still, it's good for stationay targets and headshots, but moving targets are a nightmare.
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Post by duckcall00 on Mar 12, 2011 19:58:28 GMT -5
You included the attachment pattern for the Duel Wield M1911. You should remove it. All that matters when hip-firing is the spread, not recoil.
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