MW2 Weapon&Range chart by SnakeX on XBOX360

[snakex]

Here my latest update
all stats based on the XBOX360

Mini Map of Highrise

[gus]

Looks good. Not a big deal, just saying you forgot the blue dot next to the sniper's silencer icon.

Any word on if any other attachment has any effect on any gun's damage? Like the AK47 in cod4?

[sleep]

lmao at the acr having greater range than the m4. nice work IW!!!

[snakex]

Dec 23, 2009 19:28:55 GMT -5 gus said:

Looks good. Not a big deal, just saying you forgot the blue dot next to the sniper's silencer icon.

Any word on if any other attachment has any effect on any gun's damage? Like the AK47 in cod4?

don´t know, i will test it.

Update:
i can show only shotgun range, not the damage.
it´s hard to test it, but i don´t surrender

[snakex]

Update:
shotguns with Silencer range added

[acidsnow]

I'm glad to see that you reorganized the weapons by similar firing pics, this is much better than before - thanks snake.

With the latest patch, did the range of a stock 1887 get nerfed? Because in my tests (done a few weeks ago) a stock 1887 had an obvious range advantage over a stock SPAS-12. ...I'd re-do the tests myself, but I'm ill at the moment

[snakex]

i don´t test the shotguns before the patch came out, so i don´t know.
all i can say it what it have lesser range with akimbo.

I found a way to find out shotgun dmg for xbox^^
SPAS-12 is complete, i will update then

[smokemaxx]

Thanks man! I appreciate it.
Quick questions/tips:
1) Can we get RPMs/TTKs when available? I know TTKs are hard to calculate esp with variables like SP/Headshots/etc. but anything would be great.
2) If you can't get true shotgun damages, can you get killing ranges?
3) Can you test the range of the pre-patched Akimbo 1887s? You can do this with Blinged 1887s with Akimbo + FMJ. Apparently the range is NOT reduced on them.
4) IIRC, your single 1887 info conflicts with a previous evaluation of the range of shotguns (esp. 1887 vs. SPAS). I thought the single 1887 had larger range than the SPAS? I'm not doubting you, just wondering if you're sure your info is correct.

Anyway, thanks man. 'preciate all you've done.

EDIT: Esp for point #2: If you can find the killing range for the masterkey, that'd be great. I'm trying to figure out if it's worthing getting.

[acidsnow]

Dec 23, 2009 21:31:44 GMT -5 snakex said:

i don´t test the shotguns before the patch came out, so i don´t know.
all i can say it what it have lesser range with akimbo.

I found a way to find out shotgun dmg for xbox^^
SPAS-12 is complete, i will update then

I just tested the range of the 1887 vs the SPAS-12, and it seems that the patch has indeed reduced the range of the 1887! Your listed range for each of them is indeed correct.

[snakex]

smokemaxx i will answere all your question tomorrow.

Update: Spas-12 dmg

[snakex]

Dec 23, 2009 21:40:02 GMT -5 smokemaxx said:

Thanks man! I appreciate it.
Quick questions/tips:
1) Can we get RPMs/TTKs when available? I know TTKs are hard to calculate esp with variables like SP/Headshots/etc. but anything would be great.
2) If you can't get true shotgun damages, can you get killing ranges?
3) Can you test the range of the pre-patched Akimbo 1887s? You can do this with Blinged 1887s with Akimbo + FMJ. Apparently the range is NOT reduced on them.
4) IIRC, your single 1887 info conflicts with a previous evaluation of the range of shotguns (esp. 1887 vs. SPAS). I thought the single 1887 had larger range than the SPAS? I'm not doubting you, just wondering if you're sure your info is correct.

Anyway, thanks man. 'preciate all you've done.

EDIT: Esp for point #2: If you can find the killing range for the masterkey, that'd be great. I'm trying to figure out if it's worthing getting.

1.
No

2.
no and i can actually get dmg info, see spas-12 (because, i get a OHK from the largest range of Spas-12, without SP)

3.
UP: unpatched Akimbo
S: Single
WP: with patch Akimbo



4.
it´s correct

[acidsnow]

Yo snake, in your next revision of the chart can you move the FAL to the top with the other "unique" ARs, having it below the M16/Tar/Scar/AK looks kinda odd (the big black gap). Also it looks like you misspelled "Model 1887" with an extra 'L'

...And can we get the LMG/Sniper moved to the bottom of the chart (since their respective charts are rather uninformative and most people will only need to look at them once - compared to the other more intriguing dispersal of range/damage for the other weapons). I find it difficult to compare the MachinePistoles/Handguns to the AR/SMG's because I have to skip so far down the page past the LMG/Sniper charts (which are aren't worth revisiting due to their flat-line damage charts).

Keep up the good work!

[playn]

great work on the chart!

ive picked up some spelling mistakes, these are the correct spelling
Machine Pistols
Shotguns
Model 1887


btw how did you get shotgun damage?

[snakex]

i use my trick with the range and aim with the lower bar from the crosshair on the enemy head.
the most time (90%), hit only 1 bullet and shotguns haven´t any multilpiers

[snakex]

Update: dmg for all shotguns
these are currently not 100% correct, update it the next week

[snakex]

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[playn]

i like the first one more, its easier to use and see
this one has two sides to it which makes it kinda hard to use/see

i think you should do what den did, make it a .swf file and group all the different types of weps together and show them

example:
the main screen would be all the Assault Rifles like how that section is now on your original design (top post) and then there would be tabs at the very top with Assault Rifle - SMG - LMG - Sniper - Shotgun
and when you click on one of them it shows that group


if you dont understand i can draw a picture

[playn]

got bored and did the chart

[smokemaxx]

You might want to mention something about spread and/or bullets per shotgun because it makes it seem as if the AA-12 can compete with the SPAS at range when it just can't.

[Indy_Bones]

Dec 24, 2009 6:37:26 GMT -5 smokemaxx said:

You might want to mention something about spread and/or bullets per shotgun because it makes it seem as if the AA-12 can compete with the SPAS at range when it just can't.

Are you looking at a different chart to me?

At the AA's max range, it's doing 15 damage per pellet, compared to 25 from the SPAS, 10 less damage per pellet is hardly competing...

[acidsnow]

Dec 23, 2009 22:49:42 GMT -5 acidsnow said:

Yo snake, in your next revision of the chart can you move the FAL to the top with the other "unique" ARs, having it below the M16/Tar/Scar/AK looks kinda odd (the big black gap). Also it looks like you misspelled "Model 1887" with an extra 'L'

...And can we get the LMG/Sniper moved to the bottom of the chart (since their respective charts are rather uninformative and most people will only need to look at them once - compared to the other more intriguing dispersal of range/damage for the other weapons). I find it difficult to compare the MachinePistoles/Handguns to the AR/SMG's because I have to skip so far down the page past the LMG/Sniper charts (which are aren't worth revisiting due to their flat-line damage charts).

Keep up the good work!

I like the 1st chart a lot more, but take the suggestions above and it'll be much more user friendly.

[king631]

Snake, nice job on the chart. The hard work is appreciated. Do you think there is a way to incorporate the data on bullet spreads and recoil to make this the one and only chart people need to see?

[snakex]

need a capture card to do it

[snakex]

Update: change the graph of the chart a little bit
is it better now?

[snakex]

found out, painkiller absorb 1 pellet, without any dmg

[snakex]

update: shotgun ranges updated and more correct
only the shotgun attachment is the same, test it later

[acidsnow]

Dec 24, 2009 18:18:20 GMT -5 snakex said:

Update: change the graph of the chart a little bit
is it better now?

I love you man The chart has really evolved a lot in the past 3 days, do you ever sleep

P.S. my tests on the shotguns (done a few weeks ago found the following results:
SPAS-12 8 pellets. Hip Spread medium
AA-12 8 pellets. Hip Spread large
Striker 6 pellets. Hip Spread medium
Ranger 6 pellets. Hip Spread medium
M1014 8 pellets. Hip Spread medium
Model 1887 6 pellets. Hip Spread small
Shotgun mounted under an Assault Rifle 6 pellets. Hip Spread medium

You forgot to enter 6 for the number of pellets of the Masterkey, and I'm almost certain the 1887 still fires 6 pellets!

[Protolisk]

snakex

I'm interested in the method you use to test the weapons. How do you do it?

[Indy_Bones]

Dec 24, 2009 18:18:20 GMT -5 snakex said:

Update: change the graph of the chart a little bit
is it better now?

IMHO - yes it is

Thanks for the update on this, much appreciated.

[snakex]

Dec 24, 2009 22:42:16 GMT -5 acidsnow said:

Dec 24, 2009 18:18:20 GMT -5 snakex said:

Update: change the graph of the chart a little bit
is it better now?

I love you man The chart has really evolved a lot in the past 3 days, do you ever sleep

P.S. my tests on the shotguns (done a few weeks ago found the following results:
SPAS-12 8 pellets. Hip Spread medium
AA-12 8 pellets. Hip Spread large
Striker 6 pellets. Hip Spread medium
Ranger 6 pellets. Hip Spread medium
M1014 8 pellets. Hip Spread medium
Model 1887 6 pellets. Hip Spread small
Shotgun mounted under an Assault Rifle 6 pellets. Hip Spread medium

You forgot to enter 6 for the number of pellets of the Masterkey, and I'm almost certain the 1887 still fires 6 pellets!

i test the model on rust
shoot on the wall or ground and still see 8pellets
i shoot several times
and i don´t have update the masterkey, because i test it later