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Post by ryusekai on Jan 11, 2010 8:15:29 GMT -5
Awesome! Great job on the charts it is extremely useful!
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Post by snakex on Jan 11, 2010 8:22:45 GMT -5
thx to all
who likes my chart
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Post by talon1579 on Jan 11, 2010 9:17:50 GMT -5
I've always been the type of sniper who picks a spot, settles down, and then looks through the scope waiting for an enemy to appear in the area where I've aimed. Oh, you mean a bad sniper.  You shouldn't aim down the sights unless you're actually targeting an enemy. You're better off not scoped so you can pay attention to the UAV and so you can watch for any motion. If you scope in, you can only acquire enemies in an extremely narrow area. If you don't scope in until you've already acquired an enemy, you can acquire enemies in a massive area. Incorrect. On soft-core you want to avoid detection. If you're scoped in for 3-4 seconds they cant work out where u r on the killcam. |
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Post by snakex on Jan 11, 2010 9:37:34 GMT -5
Oh, you mean a bad sniper. You shouldn't aim down the sights unless you're actually targeting an enemy. You're better off not scoped so you can pay attention to the UAV and so you can watch for any motion. If you scope in, you can only acquire enemies in an extremely narrow area. If you don't scope in until you've already acquired an enemy, you can acquire enemies in a massive area. Incorrect. On soft-core you want to avoid detection. If you're scoped in for 3-4 seconds they cant work out where u r on the killcam. don´t think so, 1. u are on the UAV 2. they can press start in the killcam and see excactly where u are 3. he can think where u are by looking the killcam where u shoot |
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Post by ryusekai on Jan 11, 2010 9:52:17 GMT -5
Alot of people don't know about the map in the kill cam, in thermal it's really hard to tell where the shot came from
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Post by k4t4n4 on Jan 11, 2010 11:30:06 GMT -5
Awesome chart. I had heard something about Fal Holo, but didn't know exact details until now.
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Post by playn on Jan 12, 2010 1:18:29 GMT -5
your flash chart needs updating
oh and the marsterkey does a lot more damage then 25. ive OHK lots of times not to the head
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Post by snakex on Jan 12, 2010 1:43:56 GMT -5
u have luck dude
Den and i get a dmg of 25.
i tested with 1/2 dmg(double health) and u need 8shots (when only 1pellet hits) and 25*8=200
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Post by playn on Jan 12, 2010 1:46:17 GMT -5
maybe, maybe but nah really, it OHK's almost all the time, but it has to be a short distance |
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Post by snakex on Jan 12, 2010 1:48:15 GMT -5
perhaps it has been updated.
i can test it for other results
omg i hate it to test the masterkey xD
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Post by snakex on Jan 12, 2010 1:57:58 GMT -5
my newest chart takes about 1month of testing.
that will be the accuratest chart. witch excact dmg drops and excact dmg indicator.
it would be a hard work.
i test every weapon, with every attachments on every health mode and w/ and w/ out SP.
and add a lot more things
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Post by playn on Jan 12, 2010 2:18:22 GMT -5
my newest chart takes about 1month of testing. that will be the accuratest chart. witch excact dmg drops and excact dmg indicator. it would be a hard work. i test every weapon, with every attachments on every health mode and w/ and w/ out SP. and add a lot more things wow that sounds awesome! good luck with it and i cant wait |
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Post by qupie on Jan 12, 2010 2:27:38 GMT -5
indeed, and if you need help on xbox, send me a mesage or something. my tag is: Qupie. lolz, same as here  and the shotty, I think playn is confused with 25 damage in total, but it is 25 per buckshot! |
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Post by smokemaxx on Jan 12, 2010 3:28:16 GMT -5
my newest chart takes about 1month of testing. that will be the accuratest chart. witch excact dmg drops and excact dmg indicator. it would be a hard work. i test every weapon, with every attachments on every health mode and w/ and w/ out SP. and add a lot more things Remember to test multiple attachments with Bling. It could make a difference esp. if IW made a change to a gun but didn't change its blinged version (like Model 1887 Akimbo). |
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Post by snakex on Jan 12, 2010 3:52:41 GMT -5
yeah thx that´s the ground why i need a month^^
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Post by obi on Jan 12, 2010 6:47:49 GMT -5
I've been hanging around Den's site for a while and have appreciated it, but haven't really hopped on the boards much. I see I should have. I never expected to see anything of this quality, snakex. Your work is appreciated. Your charts and attention to detail are great, same as Den's work, it seems. Since I don't have the time to test as you do, I can't really help you with your stats, so I'll just add to your ego. You have a new fan!  Thanks! |
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Post by mannon on Jan 12, 2010 17:15:53 GMT -5
I'll help too if I can, though I think you just do these in split screen. BADmannon on xbox.
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Post by sairex on Jan 12, 2010 17:34:01 GMT -5
Thanks snakex, these charts have been really helpful!
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Post by talon1579 on Jan 12, 2010 17:51:41 GMT -5
Incorrect. On Manly Core you want to avoid detection. If you're scoped in for 3-4 seconds they cant work out where u r on the killcam. don´t think so, 1. u are on the UAV 2. they can press start in the killcam and see excactly where u are 3. he can think where u are by looking the killcam where u shoot 1. Not with cold-blooded. The standard shot signature is minimal anyway as you won't shoot much, and helps draw enemies to you while you hide and kill them. 2. almost nobody does this 3. you need amazing spatial awareness to do this, especially on thermal. Also on wasteland the view from my killcam will often be some blades of grass and a splodge of white. |
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Post by snakex on Jan 13, 2010 9:12:49 GMT -5
here a beta of my new stats. it show u, how the chart will be. it´s only of M4A1:  |
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Post by jathomas on Jan 14, 2010 11:53:42 GMT -5
So the points represent your actual data confirmed across core/hardcore? I really appreciate your level of transparency in generating these. My gamer tag is "smeg macaroni" on the 360 and if you're willing to educate an amateur on how to help with collecting this kind of stuff, I'm happy to help.
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Post by snakex on Jan 15, 2010 12:11:07 GMT -5
So the points represent your actual data confirmed across core/Touch Football? I really appreciate your level of transparency in generating these. My gamer tag is "smeg macaroni" on the 360 and if you're willing to educate an amateur on how to help with collecting this kind of stuff, I'm happy to help. i test splitscreen with all health mode to find out the correct dmg on the correct range. no one can help, because it gives other result. my method works with excact walking from point 0 to point z. only the PC version can help, with MP log. but we don´t know that the PC version have the same range+dmg as the XBOX version |
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Post by scorp on Jan 15, 2010 22:49:32 GMT -5
Are you sure that the M9 has more range than the USP?
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Post by ryusekai on Jan 16, 2010 8:36:13 GMT -5
I'm sure snake is correct, I tested the m16 vs famas and he's right
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Post by dconnorz on Jan 17, 2010 22:38:59 GMT -5
Can someone please explain the knives? I thought they were originally listed as 100? What opted a change?
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Post by Den on Jan 17, 2010 22:50:38 GMT -5
Can someone please explain the knives? I thought they were originally listed as 100? What opted a change? Melee attack damage has always been 135, Shield excluded. |
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Post by toysrme on Jan 18, 2010 16:14:13 GMT -5
your flash chart needs updating oh and the marsterkey does a lot more damage then 25. ive OHK lots of times not to the head shotguns are stated on a per-pellet basis. masterkey = 6 pellets so you have 6 pellets each doing 25 max damage (no modifier) |
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Post by zeebo on Jan 19, 2010 16:43:49 GMT -5
Great work Snake, cannot wait to see the newest update. Quick question: When you're finished with your data, do you mind if I use it to create a flash chart where you choose your class (gun, perks, etc.) and it will update the damage, rpm, and recoil accordingly? Thanks.
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Post by snakex on Jan 19, 2010 20:25:05 GMT -5
it would be nice
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Post by neem on Jan 19, 2010 22:34:30 GMT -5
zeebo that would be much appreciated and very nice...
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Thanks!
