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Post by Aphoristic on Jun 9, 2014 16:13:48 GMT -5
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Post by tiesieman on Jun 9, 2014 17:12:17 GMT -5
Pretty good so far
It's running on the garbage network and some overall nitpick bugs from bf4 are still there
But in terms of map flow and such it seems like its working muuuuuch better than bf4. much more focus
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 22:09:50 GMT -5
Long story short Symthic is the forum that all the Battlefield-focused YouTubers go to.
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Post by didjeridu on Jun 10, 2014 16:11:43 GMT -5
Long story short Symthic is the forum that all the Battlefield-focused YouTubers go to. Yeah, BF here is dead. Deeeaaad |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 17:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by volgon on Jun 24, 2014 12:26:03 GMT -5
People can hate on Hardline all they want, but if you prefer infantry combat to vehicular bullshit Hardline is the way to go. I've sunk 36 hours into the beta (I actually like it) and I'll take it any day over all the dumb crap in BF4.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 13:54:29 GMT -5
People can hate on Hardline all they want, but if you prefer infantry combat to vehicular bullshit Hardline is the way to go. I've sunk 36 hours into the beta (I actually like it) and I'll take it any day over all the dumb crap in BF4. I'm going to assume you're not familiar with Halo 3 ODST. Long story short it was a good game; there wasn't much to hate about it. The only problem was that it was a full-price release; the amount of content in it was hardly enough to justify it. As a result it was the weakest game in the Halo series at the time for its poor value, and that's exactly what's happening to BF:HL. The cops and crooks theme hardly influenced it functionally; if the police are using C-Mags and helicopters with mounted miniguns they better be stationed in Detroit. Otherwise they may as well be dudes in military uniform. If the police have no incentive to use any form of non-lethal tact on the robbers, and the robbers are only sent out to kill cops and steal loot- it hardly qualifies as a cops and crooks game. The lack of asymmetrical aspects is a blatant reminder of how badly this opportunity was squandered. I get that it's still a Battlefield game, and risk-taking is near non-existent in Triple-A titles; I do. Still, I see no reason why I should play BF:GL over BF4. Battlefield's biggest strength was large-scale combat and combined arms. Vehicle dominion is a lot less important in HL, and while smaller player counts have their advantages 64v64 is just another option in BF4. Top that with how BF3 & BF4 were released in a very poor state I don't see why BF:HL won't follow suit. |
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Post by tiesieman on Jun 24, 2014 14:38:40 GMT -5
Yeah, it's pretty much BF4 "evolved" in terms of how close it follows the path BF4 set with its various gameplay implementations. You're entirely correct that the theme is only relevant in term of aestathetics, any gameplay implications the whole cops and robbers thing couldve had are avoided.
I wonder if the title couldve benifited from sticking with its internal codename (Omaha), to distinguish it both publically as well as internally.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Jun 24, 2014 14:58:50 GMT -5
As somebody who previously had absolutely no interest in Battlefield, I was actually quite intrigued by HL after seeing the game play trailer during E3. I am never a vehicle fan but have been curious about BF's larger scale battle, so HL feels like something more accessible to me. Also, a cop vs. criminal set up feels more realistic for 16 vs. 16 player battle.
However, given the lackluster responses from player community I now don't have much interest in spending $60 on a game that I "might" like. Hopefully a beta will be offered on XONE so I can try it out for free. If it is good enough and CoD:AW fails, I could be playing this game instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 16:09:22 GMT -5
As somebody who previously had absolutely no interest in Battlefield, I was actually quite intrigued by HL after seeing the game play trailer during E3. I am never a vehicle fan but have been curious about BF's larger scale battle, so HL feels like something more accessible to me. Also, a cop vs. criminal set up feels more realistic for 16 vs. 16 player battle. However, given the lackluster responses from player community I now don't have much interest in spending $60 on a game that I "might" like. Hopefully a beta will be offered on XONE so I can try it out for free. If it is good enough and CoD:AW fails, I could be playing this game instead. If you didn't like any of the more recent iterations of BF (BF3/BF4) you're more than likely not going to like this game barring significant changes. As sweetwater mentioned the cops and crooks theme does next to nothing for the game when it comes to actual changes to gameplay or mechanics. There is a game mode involving some sort of car chase which actually does look relatively interesting but it's not in the beta, so.... yeah. I would agree with volgon that the game is more infantry focused, but me personally, I've never played BF games solely for the infantry component. What's sad is after watching that leaked internal video for HL I thought they were going to do some neat stuff with the money system, something perhaps along the lines of what CS does. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 20:11:06 GMT -5
I'm surprised that the FPS genre in general hasn't tried adding some sort of in-match economy system in their game (I'm not sure if there's a term for that). It's only made things funner to play and watch in other genres.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 8:47:27 GMT -5
I'm surprised that the FPS genre in general hasn't tried adding some sort of in-match economy system in their game (I'm not sure if there's a term for that). It's only made things funner to play and watch in other genres. I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. do you mean like in RTS games? RTS, MOBA, TCG- games where the match slowly gets more and more volatile as both teams get more and more expensive powers/equipment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 15:22:15 GMT -5
Come to think of it taking a few seconds out a match to buy stuff might be a little troublesome if the game isn't round-based or 'major engagements' are really spread out. Things can go from bad to worse quickly if bad UI is an issue.
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Post by didjeridu on Jun 25, 2014 16:06:27 GMT -5
I would have been interested in Hardline if Payday didn't exist, but even then I wouldn't pay $60 for it.
I think I saw something about spending the carried cash in a video, but I wasn't really paying attention. Trading assets (cash) for vehicles or pickup tier weapons could be a neat personal vs team reward decision, but people would just be selfish. Also there's the whole snowball effect thing, and it becomes a slightly different flavor of killstreaks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 23:26:52 GMT -5
You can get away with going all-in every round no matter what in silver-league CS, but that's only because the guys who suck at shooting can only afford shotguns, pistols, and SMGs. In other words the guns designed for people who suck at shooting; which probably won't work in any other FPS. There's also that guy who buys a Scout, but we don't talk about those people. There are hopeful people, there are optimistic people, there are balls-to-wall delusional people, and then we have Scout buyers.
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Post by exaltedvanguard on Jul 3, 2014 11:25:42 GMT -5
How are kill times in Hardline? Same as BF4 I really liked the slower bad-company style gameplay. BF3/4 both had much faster, CoD-like kill times which, for me, take a lot of the fun out of the game. You can't snap around and shoot someone who got behind you. It's just, "Oh sh- I'm dead." There's less gameplay there.
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Post by tiesieman on Jul 3, 2014 12:06:53 GMT -5
AKM had a 40-34 @ 600 RPM model which is a bullet up from the high calibre ttks in BF3/4
All the other guns were pretty much copy paste work, so I'd think theyll balance weapons later on because the AK was just monsteous
Btw, I finally found out how to perfectly describe Hardline. It's basically BF's World at War
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Post by didjeridu on Jul 3, 2014 15:41:43 GMT -5
Don't be hatin' on WaW...
Okay fine, hate away, but the War mode was fun. Also, the team announcers were great.
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Post by tiesieman on Jul 3, 2014 16:08:07 GMT -5
WaW basically was a sum of a few good ideas, a few really bad ideas (those tanks rofl) and gameplay mechanics copy pasted and recontextualized (OUR RECON PLANE WILL FIND THEM)
Hardline is EXACTLY the same. Good simple improvements like that ammo grabbing thing from idiots, terrible ones like that self-revive perk, and things like commander being renamed to "hacker" with original tools like "firewalls" (counter-uav) and the ability to doxx somebody (mark as HVT)
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Post by wittyscorpion on Feb 3, 2015 14:06:10 GMT -5
Open beta started today and there is zero splash here?
Wondering whether I should even bother to download the beta. I never played BF before and I don't care about Big Team Battle in Halo despite being a Halo fan, I guess that it is a safe bet that I won't like BF?
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Post by Will on Feb 3, 2015 19:25:38 GMT -5
Played a bit of the Beta. If BF4 was coined "Battlefield 3.5", then this is "Battlefield 3.6".
I won't be buying this one. I'll hold for Battlefront.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Feb 4, 2015 3:35:54 GMT -5
Open beta started today and there is zero splash here? Wondering whether I should even bother to download the beta. I never played BF before and I don't care about Big Team Battle in Halo despite being a Halo fan, I guess that it is a safe bet that I won't like BF? I got the beta and played it, there were only like 4-7 people on because I didn't get a chance to play until 02:00, however I'm really digging it. It's pretty casual and toned down from the typical 64 man huge map with vehicle feel of BF3/4. It's also much more forgiving, I mean it's pretty easy to snipe a chopper, it won't do much damage, but it seems like the projectiles are pretty fast. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 18:40:24 GMT -5
In hindsight the upside to BF:HL is that it's more focused. There are no jets and vehicle dominance in general affects a player's mobility more than their team's net firepower. Players can't spawn with RPGs and belt-fed MGs; again staying true to the Cops-and-Crooks theme. Even then at the end of the day it's even more stereotypical Modern Military FPS. Albeit well-polished standard MoMi FPS.
I see there have been attempts to change up the gametypes, and I should give them credit for that. However as far as I can tell nothing really stands out to me. Maybe I'm just too used to watching CS:GO and TF2.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Feb 5, 2015 3:00:01 GMT -5
I'll pick it up, have to vote with my wallet lest modern shooters become endangered...
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Post by strokedem on Feb 5, 2015 8:53:30 GMT -5
My friends and i have all been playing this. It was the first time ive ever played any battlefield. Its pretty fun once you get a good gun. Alot more realistic than most fps ive played. Just a fun change for a while not really something i would put 20 days play time into. Cant use my scuf to drive or shoot snipers though which is pretty annoying.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Feb 5, 2015 18:34:21 GMT -5
In hindsight the upside to BF:HL is that it's more focused. There are no jets and vehicle dominance in general affects a player's mobility more than their team's net firepower. Players can't spawn with RPGs and belt-fed MGs; again staying true to the Cops-and-Crooks theme. Even then at the end of the day it's even more stereotypical Modern Military FPS. Albeit well-polished standard MoMi FPS. I see there have been attempts to change up the gametypes, and I should give them credit for that. However as far as I can tell nothing really stands out to me. Maybe I'm just too used to watching CS:GO and TF2. Honestly the only problem I have with it is the price point. Too me it kinda reminds me of what Battlefield: Vietnam was to Bad Company 2, I mean it has more than Vietnam and it'll have DLC, but it very much feels like an expansion, which I have no problem, but $60 for that is too much. I'll probably pick it up when it goes on sale, for now I'll enjoy the beta. |
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Post by wittyscorpion on Feb 5, 2015 19:02:08 GMT -5
Looks like there are enough positives for me to at least download the beta and try it out, I'll give it a day's time to see whether I'll like the sandbox or not. Probably won't buy the game, but will have a better idea about what a BL game likes for future consideration.
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Post by strokedem on Feb 6, 2015 8:46:09 GMT -5
And ill say this... i have not lagged one time while playing this beta. And there's what 64 players in the lobby? Activation should take notes.
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Post by Will on Feb 6, 2015 8:50:21 GMT -5
And ill say this... i have not lagged one time while playing this beta. And there's what 64 players in the lobby? Activation should take notes. Battlefield has always used dedicated servers. It would be pretty much impossible to have 64 player games with peer hosting |
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Post by strokedem on Feb 6, 2015 9:18:07 GMT -5
And ill say this... i have not lagged one time while playing this beta. And there's what 64 players in the lobby? Activation should take notes. Battlefield has always used dedicated servers. It would be pretty much impossible to have 64 player games with peer hosting This was my first time ever playing battlefield so ive never experienced their dedis first hand. Call of Duty would be untouchable if they had servers like this. |
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