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Post by qupie on Nov 16, 2014 7:27:33 GMT -5
I Don't really understand the point you try to make?
Players where never promised it was going to be balanced though, where they?
I think the fact that you can use your hard earned gear in pvp directly implies that everything will not be 100% balanced. Otherwise I would not care to take that hard earned gear there in the first place, right? Which would probably make crusible even less popular.
Crusible =/= Cod multiplayer, and I am glad for it. Crusible is a place where you can use your hard earned gear and compete against other players. If I want a pvp game where eeveryone can use the same stuff etc I will go play any off those 100 games out there which already do that
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Post by wings on Nov 16, 2014 8:49:17 GMT -5
Oh I think I heard about using PvE gear in PvP before I preordered the game. There are message boards with complaints about 'balance' including Bungie's own. And I think I read an article by DeeJ on the official app on about 'balance'.
I do quite like Crucible but I haven't seen anything totally overbearing and I can usually account for top tier weapons there by map navigation and I usually make myself hard to hit using the terrain so fusion rifle users will do well to kill me. I mean the Corrective Measure looks decent from the times I have been killed by it, but I am not going to moan about it especially since I pick off enemy Guardians from scout rifle range with my Suros Regime. The high calibre rounds upgrade appears to be awesome but I don't see many people using the gun much so I guess the recoil is a bit much for some people. I imagine most of the complaints are from people who do not use the guns they moan about, just like with COD.
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Post by psychlon on Nov 16, 2014 9:25:00 GMT -5
There has probably never been a game people didn't moan about. If there had been internet the time table games were invented, you would have as many bad as good comments about it.
The question is what you (developer) want. Considering that there is Iron Banner which (once upgraded) should let you use your weapons and stuff to a 100% advantage. Normal crucible however is made different by add. mods on the weapons itself. Since exotics have more than others... naturally you have a benefit over someone using greens. If however certain "standard weapons" perform better than others... it should be balanced out. People seem to mix all three together and shout that this and this weapon is too good. Really, the only way to tell is to see which weapons are used most often, find out why and adjust in a way to not make them entirely useless but usable.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 12:27:54 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Nov 17, 2014 12:53:27 GMT -5
Luvaluvalove the increase in bounties from 5 to 10.
Love the voice chat option... done in a nice waytoo
Bout damn time they added a shader preview feature...
Love the Public event increase.... but all that means is that I'll max out on Marks sooner than later. Wish they'd also announce a 15% increase in max marks.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 13:00:14 GMT -5
Luvaluvalove the increase in bounties from 5 to 10. Love the voice chat option... done in a nice waytoo Bout gosh darn golly gee whiz time they added a shader preview feature... Love the Public event increase.... but all that means is that I'll max out on Marks sooner than later. Wish they'd also announce a 15% increase in max marks. Stop procrastinating and get your 2nd and 3rd characters started already . You won't worry about the max marks problem once you do that Plus: you might feel that you need a lot of marks at the current stage, that will change in the near future when there is nothing appealing to buy with Marks...
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Post by wings on Nov 17, 2014 13:04:02 GMT -5
What? I can't camp B on Blind Watch ADSing the doorway beyond the stairs now? It was a bit easy but too many players just keep running into my fire...
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Post by markopolo on Nov 17, 2014 13:06:41 GMT -5
Stop procrastinating and get your 2nd and 3rd characters started already . You won't worry about the max marks problem once you do that Need shards to upgrade gear to get to level 28 first. Every piece of my purple gear is ready for shards; I've maxed out my gauntlets and am 1 away from maxing out my armour. Then I just need 18 more for the helmet and 18 for the boots... once I popped a chest, and got 12 spinmetal out of it; I keep deluding myself into believing that that will happen for Ascendant shards (Ascendant energy is no prob: I got 35ish of those... it's the shardz) Plus: you might feel that you need a lot of marks at the current stage, that will change in the near future when there is nothing appealing to buy with Marks... Not need marks? Huh? That's like telling a heroin junkie that there's no reason to buy heroin.
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Post by wings on Nov 17, 2014 13:23:58 GMT -5
The increase in bounty slots reduces the frequency of tower trips. And I always max on Vanguard Matks only to dismantle them after levellibg them up. Until the Quartermaster stocks the Epitaph in voud damage, I have no reason to use the stuff I buy. And I max out because of weekly and daily events anyway. So I have over 100 Ascendant Energy.
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Post by GodMars on Nov 17, 2014 13:28:02 GMT -5
I hear Thunderdevil shader is now for sale...
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 13:35:51 GMT -5
The increase in bounty slots reduces the frequency of tower trips. And I always max on Vanguard Matks only to dismantle them after levellibg them up. Until the Quartermaster stocks the Epitaph in voud damage, I have no reason to use the stuff I buy. And I max out because of weekly and daily events anyway. So I have over 100 Ascendant Energy. Keep in mind the upcoming raid is against hives, so you want to stock your arsenal with arc (vandals) & solar (wizards) weapons. I am going for legendary/exotic of each damage type for the following weapon classes: sniper rifle, fusion rifle, machine gun, and rocket launchers, on all 3 of my characters. That's 3 x 4 x 3 = 48 weapons (!) I have never had enough shards and energy. Besides raid gears, I have 10+ pieces of exotic armors to upgrade, and 30+ legendary / exotic weapons, so I am always short. While other players curse when getting shards/energy in VoG loot, I am content with whatever the RNG gives me. Well, to some degree. I don't need chatterwhite (can't they at least be a different color?!) shade and flashy class items any more .
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 13:42:14 GMT -5
I hear Thunderdevil shader is now for sale... Looks OKish, but probably much more awesome in game...
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 13:48:05 GMT -5
What the emblem preview looks like:
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Post by wings on Nov 17, 2014 14:04:59 GMT -5
The increase in bounty slots reduces the frequency of tower trips. And I always max on Vanguard Matks only to dismantle them after levellibg them up. Until the Quartermaster stocks the Epitaph in voud damage, I have no reason to use the stuff I buy. And I max out because of weekly and daily events anyway. So I have over 100 Ascendant Energy. Keep in mind the upcoming raid is against hives, so you want to stock your arsenal with arc (vandals) & solar (wizards) weapons. I am going for legendary/exotic of each damage type for the following weapon classes: sniper rifle, fusion rifle, machine gun, and rocket launchers, on all 3 of my characters. That's 3 x 4 x 3 = 48 weapons (!) I have never had enough shards and energy. Besides raid gears, I have 10+ pieces of exotic armors to upgrade, and 30+ legendary / exotic weapons, so I am always short. While other players curse when getting shards/energy in VoG loot, I am content with whatever the RNG gives me. Well, to some degree. I don't need chatterwhite (can't they at least be a different color?!) shade and flashy class items any more . I don't do Raids because that means going with randoms I meet at the Tower. I would be interested because the Corrective Measure I hear is a beast and I can tell because it is basically the only machine gun that can kill me in the Crucible. Yeah I am thinking of buying Crucible armour just to dismantle, especially now I can preview how much discipline and intellect I will get upon being fully upgraded. Same with stuff in my vault I just don't use because I have duplicate gear with a better stat roll etc.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 14:08:20 GMT -5
wings: you are playing on X360, right? If yes, you should buy a XONE during Black Friday and join our Raid party, we need you Raids are the most fun part of Destiny PvE, you need to get on it...
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Post by markopolo on Nov 17, 2014 14:10:24 GMT -5
wings: you are playing on X360, right? If yes, you should buy a PS4 during Black Friday and join our Raid party, we need you Raids are the most fun part of Destiny PvE, you need to get on it... FTFY
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 14:13:15 GMT -5
That would mean all of his hours played on X360 = wasted. We don't want that to happen to a fellow guardian bro, do we?
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Post by mannon on Nov 17, 2014 14:13:55 GMT -5
We could catch him up. ;3
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 14:24:59 GMT -5
First post patch bug surfaces: Not like many people cares, as few people have Thorn, and even fewer use it in Crucible
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Post by wings on Nov 17, 2014 14:27:49 GMT -5
I am on the 360. I never bothered going current gen since the current gen only games I would be interested in will not be released for a good while yet, if at all (Rainbow Six Siege and Gears of War 4). I will let you know if I upgrade as the DLC offer is good for that.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 14:35:33 GMT -5
I am on the 360. I never bothered going current gen since the current gen only games I would be interested in will not be released for a good while yet, if at all (Rainbow Six Siege and Gears of War 4). I will let you know if I upgrade as the DLC offer is good for that. Great! Jump on the XONE LFG thread as soon as you upgrade and we will get your VoG virgin status changed ASAP Note that lots of great deals may come out during Black Friday, probably the best time to buy...
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Post by markopolo on Nov 17, 2014 15:13:19 GMT -5
That would mean all of his hours played on X360 = wasted. We don't want that to happen to a fellow guardian bro, do we? Wasted.... I prefer the term... "dues paid"? I kid of course
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 15:55:47 GMT -5
First post patch bug surfaces: Not like many people cares, as few people have Thorn, and even fewer use it in Crucible Looks like "The Last Word" has the same problem, there might be other unintended exotic nerfs. As a result, Bungie made the following statement: Problems can be reported at this thread: www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/79157865
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 15:56:25 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Nov 17, 2014 16:05:03 GMT -5
they names a map after our clan? Cool!
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 16:22:08 GMT -5
Looks like PS4 guys are doing all the "testing" for the patch From Bungie official twitter:
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Post by markopolo on Nov 17, 2014 16:24:09 GMT -5
Looks like PS4 guys are doing all the "testing" for the patch From Bungie official twitter: Awesome! At last, we get to be the guinea pigs!
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Post by wings on Nov 17, 2014 16:25:36 GMT -5
Ahem. It is live on the 360 because I see they changed the shape of the progress of factions from a circle to a diamond etc.
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Post by markopolo on Nov 17, 2014 16:34:39 GMT -5
Ahem. It is live on the 360 because I see they changed the shape of the progress of factions from a circle to a diamond etc.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 17, 2014 16:42:06 GMT -5
wings is just feeling left out when I said "PS4 guys are doing all the testing for the patch". Apparently X360 guys are right there with you , as well as PS3 guys I guess...
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