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Post by qupie on Jan 15, 2015 7:03:18 GMT -5
As lvl 32 gear now need different upgrading materials compared lvl 31 gear, there is not much one can do wrong anymore. The two important thing to keep in mind are: - You should not upgrade any legendary armour pre dlc (exception is a single vault off glass armour to combine with rexurbished exotic and two vendor armor if you to go for that combination, as described below) - You should not upgrade anything if you are allready lvl 31 and don't have full crota/IB/exotic gear. This might also be usefull (raid gear = crotas end raid armour): Lvl 31 needs 132 light (12 extra from lvl 30) Lvl 32 needs 144 light (12 extra from lvl 31) New exotic armour go to 36 light New vendor armor go to 33 light Crotas end raid armor go to light 36, light 32 without the use off radiant shards. This week's iron banner gauntlets go to light 36, a great way to save radiant materials So the following combinations are valid for lvl 31: All vanguard gear (not a good idea) Fully lvled Rexurbished exotic + 2 vanguard gear fully lvled + something old with 30 light Fully lvled Rexurbished Exotic + 3 raid/IB, upgraded, but without using any shards Fully lvled Rexurbished Extotic + 1 fully lvled vanguard + 2 lvled raid gear without using any radiant shards (this is where my two lvl 31 are at) For lvl 32 it is quite straight forward: rexurbished Exotic, plus three raid armour + 63 radiant shards rexurbished Exotic, 2 raid armour, 1 Iron Banner armour + 42 radiant Shards + 18 ascended shards. I am doing the iron banner to save up radiant shards as we speak
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Post by malgato on Jan 15, 2015 13:01:31 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to look it up - what rank IB for the gloves?
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Post by mannon on Jan 15, 2015 13:16:58 GMT -5
There is a pair of 36 light gloves this time.
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 15, 2015 13:17:13 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to look it up - what rank IB for the gloves? Rank 4.
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Post by mannon on Jan 15, 2015 13:36:57 GMT -5
Both gloves or is it a pair at 4 and the other pair at 5? I only glanced at it last night.
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 15, 2015 13:45:20 GMT -5
Both chests with 33 light max are rank 3, both gloves with 36 light max are rank 4.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 15, 2015 13:58:04 GMT -5
So if I actually chose to do Iron Banner, I'd have to give up my upgrade exotic gloves.
Nein danke.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Jan 15, 2015 14:05:32 GMT -5
So if I actually chose to do Iron Banner, I'd have to give up my upgrade exotic gloves. Nein danke. It's not really giving up, as you are to give yourself more room for customizations. You are now free to use an exotic helmet or chest, giving you more options. Another good thing about IB 36-light gears: they don't cost Radiant Shards, which are harder to obtain. I am not doing IB this week as Halo & Evolve beta are much more interesting. Otherwise I would have gone in to get myself a pair of Warlock (my only remaining character yet to reach level 32) gloves and save 21 radiant shards.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 15, 2015 14:07:53 GMT -5
So if I actually chose to do Iron Banner, I'd have to give up my upgrade exotic gloves. Nein danke. It's not really giving up, as you are to give yourself more room for customizations. You are now free to use an exotic helmet or chest, giving you more options. Another good thing about IB 36-light gears: they don't cost Radiant Shards, which are harder to obtain. I am not doing IB this week as Halo & Evolve beta are much more interesting. Otherwise I would have gone in to get myself a pair of Warlock (my only remaining character yet to reach level 32) gloves and save 21 radiant shards. good points all around. What are the stats of the IB gloves?
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Post by wings on Jan 15, 2015 14:17:15 GMT -5
So if I actually chose to do Iron Banner, I'd have to give up my upgrade exotic gloves. Nein danke. If you have gear to upgrade you can use the Iron Banner bounties as additional sources of XP.
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Post by mannon on Jan 15, 2015 14:28:32 GMT -5
Do IB with me, bro. With your level 31 gear and weapons you should be well equipped. I can help get you up to speed on strategy and tactics, plus I'm not bad at it once I get my groove. I've managed to get rank 3 in the last two Iron Banners. I put in a couple hours on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, then just a few games on Monday in both of them. So it depends on how much time you want to put into it. IB rank 4 would take some effort, but it could also be fun, and we can probably do it easier than getting CE gloves, and it saves on the radiant shards. That's a win/win for us. A single weekend grind could save us weeks of CE grinding... and we have yet to even run CE.
Of course if you don't like it you can drop out.
Oh yeah... there's also a sexy gold shader you might like at rank 5, and a handcannon with the highest impact in the game... which can be rerolled to have different mods... Oh and grabbing some crucible bounties while doing IB gets you some crucible marks you can spend at the factions someday.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Jan 15, 2015 14:46:07 GMT -5
IMHO, one effective way to ease the fear of getting into IB is a mentality shift:
1) Don't worry about K/D; 2) Focus on the most effective ways to complete IB bounties, which will speed up how you rank up;
I would have made "do your best to win" to the top of list above, but it is not a huge deal any more after Bungie implemented the "slaughter" rules. Over a span of several games, the teams are balanced enough that basically ensure that you won't get a long losing streak. Of course, this aspect is still very important and should be your primary focus.
Spread your IB playing time over multiple days if possible, to maximize gains from bounty completion. In comparison, my way of binge session on Sunday/Monday is not a very good idea (had to do it for the previous 2 IB runs due to my schedule).
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Post by markopolo on Jan 15, 2015 14:58:45 GMT -5
It intrigues me, but if I'm going to do something that I've never done before, a nightfall is first on the list (after last weeks VOG raid)
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Post by markopolo on Jan 15, 2015 14:59:02 GMT -5
double post.......
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Post by mannon on Jan 15, 2015 15:03:04 GMT -5
Let's do both. A NF shouldn't take too long. I'm going to be doing IB for many many hours this weekend. I want rank 5 this time!
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Post by mannon on Jan 15, 2015 15:05:01 GMT -5
Bounty focus is definitely the way to go, and don't forget to buy the rep buff each day. I'd say priorities are IB Bounties > Wins. It's also good for leveling up your weapons and running some crucible bounties for extra credit, but they aren't priorities.
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Post by eLantern on Jan 15, 2015 15:14:20 GMT -5
I'm looking for some adivce.
I'm currently at level 26 and my armor lists out like this...
Rare Helmet maxed out at 21 light Rare Gauntlets maxed out at 15 light Rare Chest Armor maxed out at 21 light Legendary Leg Armor (bought from vendor) upgraded to 27 light and it's max is 33 light
My inquiry is on how best to proceed to quickly reach the upper levels while using my few ascendant shards (only 9 at this time) and other needed materials most effectively?
I've been unwilling to invest my ascendant shards into my current Leg Armor because I'm hoping to use them on Legendary Armor that will max out to 36, but how best to acquire a 36 max light piece of equipment at this stage/rank?
I spent some time in the Iron Banner very late last night in hopes of earning a legendary piece of equipment that would max out at 36, but outside of that I think I probably need to hitch onto a few higher ranking group Raids and/or Strikes. Is that a fairly good plan?
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 15, 2015 16:00:12 GMT -5
I'm looking for some adivce. I'm currently at level 26 and my armor lists out like this... Rare Helmet maxed out at 21 light Rare Gauntlets maxed out at 15 light Rare Chest Armor maxed out at 21 light Legendary Leg Armor (bought from vendor) upgraded to 27 light and it's max is 33 light My inquiry is on how best to proceed to quickly reach the upper levels while using my few ascendant shards (only 9 at this time) and other needed materials most effectively? I've been unwilling to invest my ascendant shards into my current Leg Armor because I'm hoping to use them on Legendary Armor that will max out to 36, but how best to acquire a 36 max light piece of equipment at this stage/rank? I spent some time in the Iron Banner very late last night in hopes of earning a legendary piece of equipment that would max out at 36, but outside of that I think I probably need to hitch onto a few higher ranking group Raids and/or Strikes. Is that a fairly good plan? Your best bet is definitely going to be hitting Iron Banner rank 4. Buy the 33 max light chest (unlocked at rank 3) and the 36 max light gauntlets (unlocked at rank 4) using glimmer. Get an exotic helmet if possible, or if you have ~130 Vanguard marks and a vanguard commendation, use those to buy a 33 max light helmet. That gear should get you up to level 29 without having to use any ascendant materials, 30 using some materials, and 31 if you fully upgrade (which there's not really any need to do as you'll be replacing it with raid armor anyway). Once you hit 30, you can start running Crota's End for the aforementioned raid gear. Actually, you can probably solo the first phase of Crota's End right now -- there's literally only one ogre you have to kill and sniper headshots will stun-lock it and prevent it from attacking you. Just look at any of the numerous videos posted here for how to do that. The Iron Banner gauntlets are going to be the only 36 max light legendary armor that you can spend ascendant shards to upgrade. They should require 18 shards if memory serves, so you don't need too many more. Crota's end raid armor requires radiant shards (only acquired through raid drops) and exotic armor requires exotic shards (available for 7 coins from Xur, or from breaking down an exotic).
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Post by malgato on Jan 15, 2015 16:25:06 GMT -5
I'm looking for some adivce. I'm currently at level 26 and my armor lists out like this... Rare Helmet maxed out at 21 light Rare Gauntlets maxed out at 15 light Rare Chest Armor maxed out at 21 light Legendary Leg Armor (bought from vendor) upgraded to 27 light and it's max is 33 light My inquiry is on how best to proceed to quickly reach the upper levels while using my few ascendant shards (only 9 at this time) and other needed materials most effectively? I've been unwilling to invest my ascendant shards into my current Leg Armor because I'm hoping to use them on Legendary Armor that will max out to 36, but how best to acquire a 36 max light piece of equipment at this stage/rank? I spent some time in the Iron Banner very late last night in hopes of earning a legendary piece of equipment that would max out at 36, but outside of that I think I probably need to hitch onto a few higher ranking group Raids and/or Strikes. Is that a fairly good plan? I just realized that you weren't on my friends list (don't know if it was me or you - I did a purge last year - all good either way). I added you back on. We have a pretty regular group on here, so we should be able to get you through the raids to gear up. THebb, HebbNH, Witty, Beavenge, Stone, Post (aka Dumien) all play together regularly.
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Post by mannon on Jan 15, 2015 16:43:51 GMT -5
Here's the thing. (Non exotic) 36 light armor can only be obtained from Crota's End, or Iron Banner. I don't think Crota's End is even an option until 28?
tl;dr TDB Urn Quest for 33 light gloves, Iron Banner rank 3 for 33 light chest, Iron Banner rank 4 for 36 light gloves, Xur for any exotic armor (for your class), Vanguard to fill in the gaps, upgrade your boots, get better weapons too, ask bros to help.
Xur/Exotic You also want to pickup an exotic armor item from Xur. Don't be picky. Hoard up 13 strange coins and wait for him. If you don't have enough do the weekly on whatever difficulty you can. Do public events. Decrypt engrams. Do what you can. Once you've got 13 coins you can buy an exotic piece of armor which will be 36 light max. But you can only equip 1 at a time. If you don't have the coins but he offers an armor engram that you have enough motes to buy then you can take your chances. It may not turn out to be for your class, if not then store it for alt or disassemble for the shard. Right now Xur is your highest priority, because it's not that hard to get 13 strange coins and it's a sure thing.
IB Iron Banner may be difficult as well for a 26, but still doable. Remember all you have to do is complete bounties and win a game every now and then to cash out your coins. If you're willing to put in the grind IB could be a fast route to some good gear. It won't get you to 32. The thing is only the gloves have 36 light. Chest has 33, but it would still be an item you don't have to spend coins or marks on, so that could help. Note: Read the guides on getting the most out of IB. Basically you want to buy the buff and pickup bounties every day before you start, and as you're able to buy the emblem, shader, and class armor items equip them for more rep bonus. Also read up on playing control, but basic strategy is try to control just 2 points not all 3 (unless you know what you're doing), don't zerg rush because your deaths give them points, always try to get to heavy ammo but don't pick it up alone. Highest attack, and highest defense items (that still give you your highest level) are highly recommended. Auto rifles are probably the most user friendly weapons.
Eris Xur Urn Quest Don't worry if you don't get the Iron Banner 36 light gloves. You can still get 33 light gloves from a TDB quest. This is the Urn quest from Eris that requires you to purchase the Urn from Xur. You have to pickup the quest first, then buy the Urn. You will do a lot of stuff to fill it, then turn it back in to Xur. It might be hard to finish in a single weekend, but you can start it, work on it all week, and turn it in when Xur comes back next week. It can be a rough quest, but bros can help with the harder stuff. Google it for details.
Vanguard Keep at the vanguard. You'll get gifts for ranking up, and you're going to need the commendations and the ability to buy weapons at rank 3. Unless you're really keen on another faction keep farming your Vangard rep and marks all you can. But don't purchase any more armor until you get an exotic, because it might be chest, gloves, or helmet, and if Xur offers the same slot you'll have wasted your marks. You'll want to buy items from the vanguard to fill in any gaps you don't get from Xur or Iron Banner, otherwise save the marks.
Your Boots In a word, spend the shards. You need all the levels you can possibly get for Iron Banner. If upgrading your boots get's you to 27 do it, do it now. You aren't realistically going to be able to get 36 light boots to replace them anytime soon and you need the light to bump you up to 28+ so you can start doing the things that will. Boots are also a good buy, because there are no exotic boots, and IB isn't offering boots this time either. So there's really nothing going to replace them. Don't purchase any more vanguard armor until you see what Xur offers, but investing shards into your boots is a wise investment IMO.
Goals
Stage 1 Armor Right now your goal is this: 1 exotic armor, 3 legendary armor. It doesn't matter which legendary pieces or exotics they are. Not really... not yet. You just need a full set of gear that is at least 33 light. The fact that an exotic is fairly easy to get and is 36 light is a bonus. If you can make it to rank 4 and buy 36 light gloves from Iron Banner that is also a bonus. But... if Iron Banner isn't paying off you may wish to spend that time doing the old patrol/public event/bounties thing, and also try to run daily and weekly missions. Get some bros to sherpa you through harder missions if you can. The thing with Iron Banner is it's all or nothing. You will either make it to rank 3 so you can buy the chest armor or you won't get anything that helps you level up, and getting rank 4 is that much more of a grind. It isn't really hard, just a grind. If you have the time and don't find games unwinnable or unfun to play, then go for it.
Stage 2 Weapons Once you've got a full set of 33 light gear your next goal is weapons, because you need some good ones for higher difficulty stuff. It really makes a difference. Ideally you want legendaries or exotics with 331 max attack, and you want an arsenal that includes at least one special and one heavy of every element. Personally I have all 3 elements of sniper, fusion rifle, MG, and rocket launcher, so I have lots to pick from. High end TDB era (little diamond) rares that have a max attack of >290 can also be pretty decent. A lot of the old 300 attack stuff is still good too. Purchasing weapons is expensive. It requires rank 3 and a commendation, but you also get them as gifts for ranking up pretty often. You can also obtain Murmur by simply doing the story missions for TDB.
Stage 3 Armor, again... Unless you're really lucky and have a crew that can farm Crota's End and you have multiple characters so you can do it multiple times a week, you'll start wanting some options even before you get a chance at 36 light gear. I recommend you keep buying exotics from Xur. You can be pickier about it, though. Also you know that one slot you never bought a legendary piece for because you got an exotic... yeah pick up a legendary piece for that slot now. Why? Simple, so you can equip exotics in other slots, AND so that you'll have better odds when you do start getting 36 light gear. Remember to hit level 32 you don't need full CE gear. You'll need 3 plus an exotic, (or 2 plus IB gloves plus exotic). You want a full set of 33 legendary gear so you can mix and match as needed. By now you should be level 28 to 31 and probably still working on your arsenal. Keep at it.
The road to level 32 Level 32 requires at least two pieces of 36 light armor from Crota's End. Technically it's soloable, but realistically you're going to need friends to actually beat the raid. But as soon as you are able to enter it go inside and get the freebie chest at the bottom of the pit. You can get it every week and it gives you radiant shards or energy which you will need. I'll let you google that too since this is already really long...
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Post by eLantern on Jan 15, 2015 16:46:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice and offer.
Btw, I've gotten fairly decent at playing in the crucible by myself (at least in regards to Control, Clash, and Combined Arms) because that's where I spend most my time but it's always easier when working with a few friends. Late last night I was simply playing some standard Clash by myself (since I had a few crucible bounties I wanted to complete) when I noticed one of my friends had just signed into Destiny. I got him to join my party chat and hoped he'd like to join me for some Crucible play, but he said he was going to focus on Iron Banner as he had some of those bounties to complete. I didn't even know what the Iron Banner was until he explained that it was basically the same as the Crucible, but the difference is that all your armor statistics and weapon statistics fully influence your character's capabilities in matchmaking; basically, you need to have good equipment to succeed. I offered to join him but he indicated that it probably wouldn't be wise at my current rank; however, he reiterated that he does occasionally see a few mid-to-upper level 20s in there but they rarely do well so it was up to me (I guess he didn't care if I were to pull him/his team down). I said what the hell I'm willing to give it a go anyways along as he didn't mind. Low and behold I was often one of my team's leaders in points, but it was definitely more difficult to kill opponents than in the standard crucible games. My buddy only played 5 games before he got off and afterwards I wondered where I had to go to obtain Iron Banner bounties and how to get back into the Iron Banner Crucible matches? I figured it's got to be in that area that's usually blocked off so I was planning on checking that out sometime late tonight.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Jan 15, 2015 16:59:56 GMT -5
eLantern: we really need you to get to level 31+ and join our raid hebbnh offers a great way to get there, and it does not require a lot of grinding. Probably still more than you would like, but way faster than what we have gone through.
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Post by qupie on Jan 16, 2015 8:26:43 GMT -5
I would just go for the iron banner if you have a team to play with, or enjoy crusibles/a challenge for the weekend. l it will be hard without a team but it is your fastest way to lvl 31 I think. Also, buy the exotic helmet for your class from xur this weekend if you have 13 strange coins. They are all pretty decent.
If you don't want to play iron banner for a pretty long time this week and you have the dlc, eris urn bounty will give you free gauntlets (33 light). You have to visit xur twice to complete it, so the weekend is your best bet.
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Post by Drag0nboy23 on May 11, 2015 10:58:50 GMT -5
Raid gear pieces can be obtained on normal difficulty, but I believe the helmet is hard only. Also, the legendary and exotic can have the light upgraded a little bit before having to use any shards. Shards are only necessary for the last three defense upgrades on those types of equipment. In regards to 2.a) I think exotic engrams are the only ones that will be for a random class. Rares and legendaries are always for the class you decrypt them with. Thanks for the info. I'll adjust my posts accordingly. That is incorrect you need hard mode to get weapons and normal for gear. I have gotten raid gear full from just completing normal mode. In order to get Hunger of Crota, or Word of Crota, or Vex Mythoclast you need to do them on hard. There are also much more weapons from raids I only named a few.
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Post by qupie on May 12, 2015 9:25:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I'll adjust my posts accordingly. That is incorrect you need hard mode to get weapons and normal for gear. I have gotten raid gear full from just completing normal mode. In order to get Hunger of Crota, or Word of Crota, or Vex Mythoclast you need to do them on hard. There are also much more weapons from raids I only named a few. Lolwut? Sorry but most of what you just said is simply not true. Hunger for example only drops in Crota normal. They were also talking VoG there (as the TDB was not even released in October) Just to clarify and not get false information on here: VoG Normal all armour except helmet and some weapons (epilogue, VoC, found verdict, praediths revange, Hezen Vengeance, Corrective Measure, VoG Hard Helmet (and other armour right?) and some weapons (Praetorian Foil, Fatebringer, Praedyth's Timepiece, Vex Mythoclast, as well as most/all weapons you can get from normal mode) Crota normal All armour (helmets are rare), all special and heavy weapons Crota hard All armour, primary weapons (ONLY, no normal mode weapons!)
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