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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 12, 2014 12:20:09 GMT -5
I really want to complete a hard raid with you guys. Is this Thursday a good time to do that? If so, I'll bring my game face and more heavy ammo packs than you can shake a stick at. It looks very promising. We already have 5, just need 1 more which I already have a name in mind. Hopefully we can play the raid mostly for fun, which our party excel compared to other raid attempts I participated. In those attempts, many people only want loot, not that interested in playing the game. IMHO it is fine to do that once in a while because Bungie forced it on us, but should not be all the time. Otherwise it smells like loot slavery, by Bungie
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 12, 2014 12:52:20 GMT -5
Anybody is up for coop Weekly/Nightfall and even Raid tonight? I still have 2 Nightfall and 1 weekly to go.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 12, 2014 14:37:24 GMT -5
Anybody is up for coop Weekly/Nightfall and even Raid tonight? I still have 2 Nightfall and 1 weekly to go. I might be able to help tonight. We owe the game a rematch after last night's f-up lol Thursday I am good to go.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 12, 2014 14:40:39 GMT -5
Anybody is up for coop Weekly/Nightfall and even Raid tonight? I still have 2 Nightfall and 1 weekly to go. I might be able to help tonight. We owe the game a rematch after last night's f-up lol Thursday I am good to go. It's my bad, due to my poor knowledge about the cheese spot I insisted on playing. I have done some research and now much better prepared.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 12, 2014 14:57:42 GMT -5
Wasn't your fault.
I was thinking the above cheese spot in your second video. You were thinking the first video.
sh1t happens.
I've never done the first one while solo (or even grouped up). I've done variatons of the second video a number of times.
I think the 'under-the-deck' attempt would have worked for us, except for the small issue that I was wasn't all the way back in under the deck. I needed to go a bit further back under, past where I was. Once I died, you got lit up trying to rescue me. And when one respawns, they respawn outside the deck, right next to where all the enemies were standing shooting at us.
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Post by hebbnh on Nov 13, 2014 12:19:51 GMT -5
Anybody is up for coop Weekly/Nightfall and even Raid tonight? I still have 2 Nightfall and 1 weekly to go. Were you able to get those done already? I need 2 weekly runs, and THebb still needs to do everything, so we may be able to coordinate to knock those out. Maybe you guys can run Nightfall while I solo the weekly, then you can jump into my weekly near the end since you'll probably be able to finish the Nightfall quicker due to the arc burn.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 13, 2014 12:26:30 GMT -5
I cheesed my way through all of them effortlessly, using the following spot: Patience & Time + Arc Burn + Boss flinches after each shot and does not move = fastest boss kill ever. Total Nightfall run time is sub 20 minutes, P&T + my legendary arc MG = destroyers of everything For weekly I used Preydyth's Vengeance for minions & Ice Breaker for boss, took just a tad bit longer. Man, Preydyth is a fantastic sniper rifle, great handling, and dat explosion from precision kill is superb at taking out clusters of minions. I now have it fully upgraded and look forward to using it in Raid. Ice Breaker (Solar) + Patience & Time (Arc) + Preydyth's Vengeance (Void) = most deadly trio of sniper rifles, and you don't even need to pick up ammo!
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 13, 2014 12:28:39 GMT -5
I assume that everybody listed below is still on track for some serious raiding tonight?
11/13 Thursday VoG normal/hard run - tentative start time: 5:30pm PT
1. Witty 2. HebbNH 3. Thebb22 4. IW5K 5. Dumien 6. Open
Looks like we definitely need a 6th. I'll ping Sleezy if I don't see anybody signing up here by noon PT.
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Post by thebb22 on Nov 13, 2014 12:41:50 GMT -5
I am up for any and all things Destiny starting at about 4pm ct. It's been a long week off!
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 13, 2014 13:02:48 GMT -5
I am up for any and all things Destiny starting at about 4pm ct. It's been a long week off! Welcome back! Your vacation has left a big hole in our raid party. The biggest event you missed: the urban legend story telling of Destiny
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Post by Dumien on Nov 13, 2014 14:09:54 GMT -5
What time are we starting? Welcome back T
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 13, 2014 14:22:06 GMT -5
What time are we starting? Welcome back T I can get online around 5:30pm PT. I assume that everybody else will be waiting for me.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 13, 2014 15:31:11 GMT -5
FYI: I have messaged Sleezy to invite him to our raid. Will see if he can play or not.
We may still be 1 short. In that case we can either LFG randoms or try to find people on our friend list to fill in.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 13, 2014 16:01:09 GMT -5
FYI: I have messaged Sleezy to invite him to our raid. Will see if he can play or not. We may still be 1 short. In that case we can either LFG randoms or try to find people on our friend list to fill in. Sleezy just replied saying that he can't play until after midnight ET, so we are still 1 short.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 14, 2014 9:43:23 GMT -5
That was interesting last night. Maybe someone could break down what we were doing wrong? Dumien? The GateKeeper on Hard mode, sure is hard. :-(
On the positive side of things, I did get a Raid Gloves I was looking for. So one of my Lv 29 Warlocks can now become Lv 30. Hope to have that leveled up soon.
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Post by Dumien on Nov 14, 2014 10:53:08 GMT -5
iw5000 6 different people just need 6 perfect runs happening all at the same time. We had all the strategies right. There were people dying to stupid things. If you are not a warlock you just need to make sure you value your life really really highly. That means pretending Destiny has a cover system. running away from Praetorians. Not falling into holes. Calling out Praetoreans instead of trying to solo them. Not having more than one hobgoblin on screen at the same time. That said... it was a good learning experience I think. In addition 2-3 people got level 30. This is very good.
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Post by hebbnh on Nov 14, 2014 11:18:53 GMT -5
<------- Hangs head in shame...
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 14, 2014 11:44:30 GMT -5
iw5000 6 different people just need 6 perfect runs happening all at the same time. We had all the strategies right. There were people dying to stupid things. If you are not a warlock you just need to make sure you value your life really really highly. That means pretending Destiny has a cover system. running away from Praetorians. Not falling into holes. Calling out Praetoreans instead of trying to solo them. Not having more than one hobgoblin on screen at the same time. That said... it was a good learning experience I think. In addition 2-3 people got level 30. This is very good. And: don't ever put your Titan bubble around the sync plate! (or any location the Praetorians are fond of) If you do that (like me), you might as well change your gamertag to "Praetorian's best bud" . That mistake ruined one of our best runs. However, it has got to be THE BEST Raid night ever. Sure, we had great normal runs in the past, and the famous "scorpion" mode of running through mazes blind to laugh at, but they are pale in comparison to last night. Failures in Raid are fun. I have reached level 30 on my Warlock, probably the lamest level 30 in the Destiny universe, due to my pure luck of getting 100% raid gear drop on that character and acquired the 3 different pieces I needed in just 4 tries. With Fire Born, knowledge and experience of Warlock revive glitch, 50 packs of synthesis, and most importantly, no bubble to mess things up , I am hopeful that my next VoG hard run will be victorious...
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 14, 2014 11:48:16 GMT -5
iw5000 6 different people just need 6 perfect runs happening all at the same time. We had all the strategies right. There were people dying to stupid things. If you are not a warlock you just need to make sure you value your life really really highly. That means pretending Destiny has a cover system. running away from Praetorians. Not falling into holes. Calling out Praetoreans instead of trying to solo them. Not having more than one hobgoblin on screen at the same time. That said... it was a good learning experience I think. In addition 2-3 people got level 30. This is very good. I had fun last night. It's fun to play something that is hard, even if getting beat....rather than running the same strikes with excessive amounts of cheesing. Good challenge is always a breath of fresh air. As far as our attempts. I feel like I could have done more. What i was doing: 1. immediately racing into the Mars portal 2. hitting the gatekeeper with a shot, & then taking out both goblin snipers on the flanks. 3. Leaving Mars, and jumping in to help defend the Mars plate. Kill Preatorians and stuff. 4. when the relic carrier comes out of Mars....run over and defend the Venus plates. I think I died only one time doing any of the above (died without sunsinger regen) I did die a few times doing the intial stage where we kill stuff and wait for the portals to open. Getting to aggressive in trying to find ammo. So I feel like I was underutilized. I could have helped in another spot maybe? You know, 'if you ain't dying, you ain't trying' sort of thing.
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Post by Dumien on Nov 14, 2014 12:06:46 GMT -5
Mmm I had fun too. iw5000 You played exceptionally well if you barely died. I want no one to die. "If you aren't dying you ARE trying" lol. As many people as possible should be alive for the final center conflux defense. Your 1-4 is exactly what you were supposed to be doing. Do you think you would be better utilized on strict Praetorean defense? Giving higher risk jobs to sunslingers is a pretty good strat. I put you in the rocket job because you had done it before. Alternatively you could also be the one killing the boss/grabbing the relic if you wanted.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 14, 2014 12:49:22 GMT -5
I just feel like I had an easier role to do. I could have helped out some of the other guys, who had harder roles.
I'm pretty good at killing the praetorians. And with my soon-to-be level 30, I think removing my damage nerf will help even more.
I think I am ok at killing the gatekeeper, grabbing the relic on that first Mars trip. But....I still get a bit confused after I come out of Mars. I need to read up on that (again). Mostly on what my exact role is when going into Venus.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 14, 2014 12:56:23 GMT -5
As the most inexperienced of the group: I assume that I stay on peripheral Praetorian watch duties even as level 30 Warlock?
Also, Heb is busy leveling up his Gjallarhorn and will have it by Sunday. Should we strategize around that?
I'll also go ahead and get the Sunday Raid planning started. Bros interested please also state class/level and your preferred time slots:
11/16 Sunday VoG Hard (beat the Gatekeeper and Atheon!), tentative start: TBD
1. Witty - level 30 Warlock (would like to do an Oracle -> Gatekeeper run for level 29 Hunter if we have the time): available the entire Sunday 2. Open 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open
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Post by malgato on Nov 14, 2014 13:45:13 GMT -5
Does anyone enjoy late night raiding? I can raid tonight or tomorrow after 10 pm PT...
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 14, 2014 13:46:57 GMT -5
Does anyone enjoy late night raiding? I can raid tonight or tomorrow after 10 pm PT... I am up for it tonight. Maybe 2 of us can go on LFG and at least get the Oracle -> Templar portion done. If we have a reasonably good experience, we can make that a regular activity (and start a thread called "the late night LFG raid adventures of Witty and Mal" )
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Post by thebb22 on Nov 14, 2014 13:48:19 GMT -5
I've got the 29 Titan with (hopefully) leveled up Gjallarhorn and two other characters that I'd like to get through the oracle checkpoint because I desperately need raid gear to advance those characters any further. I think I'll be available most of Sunday (not certain), but I have to be done by 8pm central at the latest.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 14, 2014 13:49:52 GMT -5
I've got the 29 Titan with (hopefully) leveled up Gjallarhorn and two other characters that I'd like to get through the oracle checkpoint because I desperately need raid gear to advance those characters any further. I think I'll be available most of Sunday (not certain), but I have to be done by 8pm central at the latest. 11/16 Sunday VoG Hard (beat the Gatekeeper and Atheon!), tentative start: TBD 1. Witty - level 30 Warlock (would like to do an Oracle -> Gatekeeper run for level 29 Hunter if we have the time): available the entire Sunday 2. Thebb22 - level 29 Titan with Gjallarhorn(!): available most of the time Sunday before 6pm PT 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open
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Post by malgato on Nov 14, 2014 13:50:34 GMT -5
Does anyone enjoy late night raiding? I can raid tonight or tomorrow after 10 pm PT... I am up for it tonight. Maybe 2 of us can go on LFG and at least get the Oracle -> Templar portion done. If we have a reasonably good experience, we can make that a regular activity (and start a thread called "the late night LFG raid adventures of Witty and Mal" ) Sounds good. I still have three checkpoints saved for Oracles Hard Mode.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 14, 2014 13:52:15 GMT -5
I am up for it tonight. Maybe 2 of us can go on LFG and at least get the Oracle -> Templar portion done. If we have a reasonably good experience, we can make that a regular activity (and start a thread called "the late night LFG raid adventures of Witty and Mal" ) Sounds good. I still have three checkpoints saved for Oracles Hard Mode. Great, I'll start the thread right now I have 1 at Oracle hard, and 2 at Gatekeeper hard. Those are our chips for luring randoms, hopefully group of 4...
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Post by malgato on Nov 14, 2014 13:58:15 GMT -5
Hopefully we can gather more friends. I am not super excited about 4 randoms.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 14, 2014 14:00:08 GMT -5
Hopefully we can gather more friends. I am not super excited about 4 randoms. Of course. But as it stands now most of the people on our friends list don't do stuff at this hour. My hope is to accumulate some "friends" that are through LFG over time.
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