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Post by markopolo on Apr 22, 2015 13:43:53 GMT -5
www.reddit.com/live/us85kbgn0hu2Can't watch it... but from what I'm reading: ME MOTHER F$$KING GUSTA MOTHER F%%KERS - Speaker can exchange any mats - gunsmith can reforge HoW weapons, sells telemetries - any legendary, any release available for upgrade (showed a 365 shadow price) using Etheric Light, which can be obtained in weeklys nightfalls, and Trials of Osirus - NO LONGER LOSE XP OR HAVE TO RELEVEL UPGRADE EXOTICS - glimmer cap still where it is - Deej just shareded his gjallie... claims he won't have one until everyone has one... hahahahaha... f$$k you - they discussed player trading pro/cons... deej says it would "make the experience of getting certain items not as great" - No cap on etheric light, but because they only come from certain activities with limits, there's that limitation - Activities to get Etheric Light limited by resets. Like Nightfall. - factions are getting brand new armour - shards can be exchanged for glimmer, if you're poor and have 100000000000 AMats just sitting there - reforging is RNG, just like in IBanner; looks like it costs 1 mote, 3 weapon parts, 250 glimmer per turn - PoE is raid tier difficulty, with more details following - they're not looking at bringing in "5 new mats every release" - QW has some cool stuff, new shaders and a ship - won't deal with the queen, rather Petra, her liason
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Post by mannon on Apr 22, 2015 13:46:21 GMT -5
I could bring my TDYK out of retirement... Noice!
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Post by markopolo on Apr 22, 2015 14:26:50 GMT -5
C?P from rreddit... more complete than what I mentioned above:
-The Reef and Prison of Elders-----
DLC is not required to visit the Reef.
Petra: Main story drive and vendor. She's back in the Reef after her visit to the tower 7 months ago. That's a long flight... Missed her inventory screen...
So we can get a variant of the Queen's patrol ship at QW rank 3. Sa-weet!
The House of Judgment Vendor Variks is apparently the Warden of the Prison of Elders.
You'll be able to purchase PoE gear from Variks via armor and weapon "cores" that drop in PoE. Currently looks to have one piece of armor and one weapon. Was an inventory cycling mentioned here?
Wolfslayer's Claw auto rifle acquired from Variks.
Queen's Guard. They didn't interact here, said the Queen was "Safe behind these doors."
Bounty bot seems the same, whether it's the tower or the reef.
Vault space is not separate - it's your same vault as the tower.
Xur will jump between the tower and the reef. (Implied. Deej obviously cryptic here.)
Bounty gained from visiting the Reef.
-----Trials of Osiris-----
Trials of Osiris vendor, and his vendor screen with a consumable to omit first loss. Trials of Osiris will run every weekend Friday thru reset.
-----The Tower-----
Material Exchange! Exchanged at Speaker.
New Monarchy items. Red Hand IX, Vindicator Auto Rifle, Elector's Hood, Elector's Robes
Dead Orbit chest piece.
Expansion II Guns can be reforged! We'll visit the Gunsmith.Here's his inventory screen. Looks very much like FeB reforging.
New Crucible vendor inventory and new Warlock Crucible gear. They may have shown off more than this, but I had to step away for a few minutes.
-----Weapon Upgrade Paths-----
All weapons will gain an "Ascend" bubble on the left of the tree. Shadow Price (!!!) for example.
Ascend is the new upgrade path to 365. Looks like all gear can "ascend" for the right price. New economy of Ephiric Light earned from PoE and other weekly events. Picture of Etheric Light upgrade bubble. Etheric Light in inventory.
Was stated there is no cap on the amount you can get other than how many activities you can run in a week.
Xur isn't required to upgrade exotics anymore. It's done via the "Ascend" bubble.
-----Misc.-----
No new ghost shells.... at this time.
Hive Disurpter is back and usable for Black Hammer via Gothalion. No picture.
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Post by hebbnh on Apr 22, 2015 16:19:32 GMT -5
So far I really like what I'm hearing. Lack of a true raid still stings, but literally everything else sounds really, really good!
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Post by mannon on Apr 22, 2015 16:51:32 GMT -5
Yeah I'm definitely gonna have to come back for this. I'm split on whether I should buy the LDR or save my vanguard marks. I'm not even sure the HoW items will be sold on the old vendors, but if they are then I might prefer to wait for something I could reroll or even just wait and see what the vanguard sells post HoW since all the weapons are getting full upgrades.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 22, 2015 19:09:09 GMT -5
Yeah I'm definitely gonna have to come back for this. I'm split on whether I should buy the LDR or save my vanguard marks. I'm not even sure the HoW items will be sold on the old vendors, but if they are then I might prefer to wait for something I could reroll or even just wait and see what the vanguard sells post HoW since all the weapons are getting full upgrades. Imho... Save the marks unless you can dedicate the hours to getting the 150 marks back.
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Post by qupie on Apr 23, 2015 3:27:22 GMT -5
I could bring my TDYK out of retirement... Noice! I dismantled all 5 I had . I do have the current crucible hand cannon though. And I barely use it... (why use a hand cannon without damage type if you can use WoC?) Still, I regret deleting the devil. It was my favorite gun for a long time. All in all these changes are great. They really listened to the community.
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Post by qupie on Apr 23, 2015 3:29:19 GMT -5
Yeah I'm definitely gonna have to come back for this. I'm split on whether I should buy the LDR or save my vanguard marks. I'm not even sure the HoW items will be sold on the old vendors, but if they are then I might prefer to wait for something I could reroll or even just wait and see what the vanguard sells post HoW since all the weapons are getting full upgrades. Imho... Save the marks unless you can dedicate the hours to getting the 150 marks back. Agreed, while LDR is an awesome sniper (high damage type, low recoil), I would save em up if you can't get 150 marks in a month.
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Post by qupie on Apr 23, 2015 3:39:34 GMT -5
Also, there seems to be some kind of huge rocket launcher, while the guardian still has a rocket launcher on their back. I really hope this is going to be a special pick up weapon kind of thing. Like the sword. So that having/not having Gjallorhorn makes no difference.
Would be one possible fix for the problems the community has with the Gjallarhorn.
I am also really looking forward to reforging vendor bought weapons! It will give vendor weapons a meaning after a month the DLC is out.
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Post by wings on Apr 23, 2015 6:45:10 GMT -5
This is where people start regretting sharding weapons I guess. Pretty good news all round.
Edit: Isn't it only HoW legendaries that can be reforged oe can previous weapons be reforged too?
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 23, 2015 8:31:35 GMT -5
Imho... Save the marks unless you can dedicate the hours to getting the 150 marks back. Agreed, while LDR is an awesome sniper (high damage type, low recoil), I would save em up if you can't get 150 marks in a month. Is it better than the Black Hammer?
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Post by hebbnh on Apr 23, 2015 8:34:42 GMT -5
Agreed, while LDR is an awesome sniper (high damage type, low recoil), I would save em up if you can't get 150 marks in a month. Is it better than the Black Hammer? Not in my opinion.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 23, 2015 8:37:21 GMT -5
Edit: Isn't it only HoW legendaries that can be reforged oe can previous weapons be reforged too? As far as I understand it: HoW- can only be reforged All legendary weapons from year 1 - brought up to 367 (or whatever it is) damage, no perk changes All exotic weapons - boosted damage, no need to relevel the weapons, no longer need Xur to upgrade gear As far as I know....
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 23, 2015 8:38:43 GMT -5
What's the cost to upgrade?
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Post by markopolo on Apr 23, 2015 8:47:05 GMT -5
Is it better than the Black Hammer? Not in my opinion. I don't have it, but I have heard many people praise the Black Hammer, yet I have never heard anyone praise the LDR
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Post by markopolo on Apr 23, 2015 8:50:52 GMT -5
What's the cost to upgrade? Depends... from what I saw: - to reroll a HoW item, it was some weapon parts, 250 glimmer, and a mote - to upgrade a year 1 legendary, it was some glimmer, mats (I think) and 50 of the new epheric (spl?) light... the new Currency of HoW - no idea about exotics
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 23, 2015 8:58:38 GMT -5
I heard a rumor that it will take 250 Crucible marks to upgrade an exotic to 367.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 23, 2015 9:12:47 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Apr 23, 2015 9:19:31 GMT -5
Polo's Take on All of This:
Bungie absolutely hit it out of the park with this stuff. No question about it. They gave the population base enough change and ability to change, without taking too much control. They still have the RNGebuz as Our Lord and Personal Benefactor. But for now, they've shown that they listened to the player base, they learned from their mistakes with TDB.... full marks and bonus marks to them.
Now, they have to do it again, to convince us not to be mad about not having a raid. But I think they will... I have a gut feeling that the story line will go along the lines of as we play the story, the Fallen break the containment of the Prison of Elders and we have to go in there to re-contain the prison population in there.
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Post by mannon on Apr 23, 2015 16:20:19 GMT -5
All this HoW stuff definitely bringing back the itch... Might have to see what I can do to prepare for it this weekend. I guess priority would just be coins, though for buying new exotics and hanging onto marks. Maybe edging reputation ranks if I bother with rep. Stocking shards mebbe except I still need them pretty bad. Prolly not much I can do so I dunno what I would do. Maybe restart that Titan...
Or maybe just wait for release... I'm still on the fence. ;3
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Post by markopolo on Apr 23, 2015 18:59:26 GMT -5
The Weekly Update mentioned what DeeJ forgot: commendations.
Basically, you don't need them anymore and can burn them for 250 vanguard or crucible rep.
I wonder if you can power level factions by wearing their rep changers?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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Post by markopolo on Apr 23, 2015 19:01:28 GMT -5
All this HoW stuff definitely bringing back the itch... Might have to see what I can do to prepare for it this weekend. I guess priority would just be coins, though for buying new exotics and hanging onto marks. Maybe edging reputation ranks if I bother with rep. Stocking shards mebbe except I still need them pretty bad. Prolly not much I can do so I dunno what I would do. Maybe restart that Titan... Or maybe just wait for release... I'm still on the fence. ;3 Just call my name, I'll carry your .... 24? Hunter to some coins.
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Post by snes chalmers on Apr 23, 2015 20:08:47 GMT -5
And here I've been grinding for Crucible and Vanguard Commendations...well, nice to see that they'll come in handy anyways.
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Post by bradman on Apr 23, 2015 23:04:44 GMT -5
Agreed, while LDR is an awesome sniper (high damage type, low recoil), I would save em up if you can't get 150 marks in a month. Is it better than the Black Hammer? The Hammer is better for tough bosses, the LDR a little easier to use in general combat. Impact vs. Stability and Reload.
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Post by qupie on Apr 24, 2015 0:47:56 GMT -5
Agreed, while LDR is an awesome sniper (high damage type, low recoil), I would save em up if you can't get 150 marks in a month. Is it better than the Black Hammer? While I dont have a BH, I think it is. At least against every thing which is not a boss
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Post by exxtrooper on Apr 24, 2015 7:35:32 GMT -5
Black hammer is still the best boss killer sniper in the game.
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 24, 2015 7:47:13 GMT -5
Black hammer is still the best boss killer sniper in the game. That was my feeling. I can't see any possible way the LDR is better. Black Hammer wrecks every boss in no time.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 24, 2015 10:17:10 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Apr 24, 2015 11:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by wittyscorpion on Apr 24, 2015 11:34:19 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, the LDR sold at the vanguard has the wall back perk. That plus the high impact make it worth buying. It also has the perk to return ammo directly back to mag on occasions, if I recall correctly.
Wall hack perk is very handy on Omnigul to take out the boomers on the other side of the wall during the final fight.
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