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Post by Pegasus Actual on Sept 4, 2016 19:58:30 GMT -5
^Notice how that guy leads with a disclaimer instead of hype-vomit followed by a limp-dicked disclaimer disguised as a brag.
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Post by PSIII on Sept 5, 2016 4:35:01 GMT -5
OK, want able to actually watch any gameplay videos (just glances) until this second. I don't know what to think really. Mainly disappointment. It was a route they'd likely go, but when you see it in front of you, you wish they did it differently. Seeing Overgrown is awesome, but I'm not liking the animations. Different, not as smooth, and sniping isn't the same. Hearing that 50 cal go off and it not being the original sound is a huge downer. If you're going to build up a new game, then you better add more killstreaks, just might as well. This isn't CoD4. They should have just rolled back to the old engine and polish that and up the visuals of the old game. Too "cheap" I guess. If that makes sense. Now this is exactly what would utterly destroy the greatness of a MW2 remake. Holy shit, do not change the sounds, visuals, physics, and animations of that game. Just run the bastard at native 1080p and add extras, don't ruin it.
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Post by Gamma on Sept 5, 2016 6:44:21 GMT -5
Now this is exactly what would utterly destroy the greatness of a MW2 remake. Holy shit, do not change the sounds, visuals, physics, and animations of that game. Just run the bastard at native 1080p and add extras, don't ruin it. I agree, but at the very least they should address OMA tubes. Maybe remove the GL entirely, or go the CoD4 route and lose perk 1 when GL is equipped. The game in its 'pure' state would probably be unappealing to quite a few. Changing other things like commando and the way a tac nuke is earned would be too divisive.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Sept 5, 2016 11:13:35 GMT -5
OK, want able to actually watch any gameplay videos (just glances) until this second. I don't know what to think really. Mainly disappointment. It was a route they'd likely go, but when you see it in front of you, you wish they did it differently. Seeing Overgrown is awesome, but I'm not liking the animations. Different, not as smooth, and sniping isn't the same. Hearing that 50 cal go off and it not being the original sound is a huge downer. If you're going to build up a new game, then you better add more killstreaks, just might as well. This isn't CoD4. They should have just rolled back to the old engine and polish that and up the visuals of the old game. Too "cheap" I guess. If that makes sense. Now this is exactly what would utterly destroy the greatness of a MW2 remake. Holy shit, do not change the sounds, visuals, physics, and animations of that game. Just run the bastard at native 1080p and add extras, don't ruin it. I'm digging the graphics but I agree about the sounds. Didn't really notice animations. I think the gameplay is going to be almost identical. Saying "this isn't CoD4" is a major exaggeration.
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Post by PSIII on Sept 5, 2016 11:38:04 GMT -5
I agree, but at the very least they should address OMA tubes. Maybe remove the GL entirely, or go the CoD4 route and lose perk 1 when GL is equipped. The game in its 'pure' state would probably be unappealing to quite a few. Changing other things like commando and the way a tac nuke is earned would be too divisive. On each life, ammunition/equipment is separately tracked and doesn't replenish with OMA. It'll only pass over. If you're not using the M203 (GP25 will count as the same, but the Thumper is separate) in a class that has it and switch, you'll still have two on the new class (regardless of the new class has OMA or not). If you use both rounds, that'll be it until you die (unless the new class has Scavenger of course). This'll extend to every other item, including guns (as long as you don't have the same primary on a bunch of OMA classes, you'll have plenty of ammo). The primary purpose for OMA anyway is for the perk setups and crucial stuff like silencers or launchers. I have no logical fix for Scavenger though. They either do old school, the MW3 version, or the BO2/3 version. In all honestly, the new Scavenger doesn't really change it from MW2 at all. Like who didn't get a few gun kills between their explosives back then? That would be one of the two nerf/corrections to anything I'd do (the other would be Painkiller). To deal with Danger Close, buff the Blast Shield up 15-20% in damage reduction. I wonder what they did to the GL in this game. It was actually the same in CoD4 and MW2. MW2 just had Danger Close.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 5, 2016 12:18:10 GMT -5
Guys, they remastered MW, not MW2. Why are you getting your feathers ruffled by OMA?
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Post by Aphoristic on Sept 5, 2016 12:34:42 GMT -5
OK, want able to actually watch any gameplay videos (just glances) until this second. I don't know what to think really. Mainly disappointment. It was a route they'd likely go, but when you see it in front of you, you wish they did it differently. Seeing Overgrown is awesome, but I'm not liking the animations. Different, not as smooth, and sniping isn't the same. Hearing that 50 cal go off and it not being the original sound is a huge downer. If you're going to build up a new game, then you better add more killstreaks, just might as well. This isn't CoD4. They should have just rolled back to the old engine and polish that and up the visuals of the old game. Too "cheap" I guess. If that makes sense. Now this is exactly what would utterly destroy the greatness of a MW2 remake. Holy shit, do not change the sounds, visuals, physics, and animations of that game. Just run the bastard at native 1080p and add extras, don't ruin it. Are you trolling? Not entirely rebuilding the game in the newer engine is the "cheap" way to do it. Go play CoD4 if you want the same visuals, sounds, physics, and animations. What is even the point of a remake if they aren't going to update the game at all? You're literally asking them to just port the game and do nothing else. This remake looks really good. They fixed bugs, updated the visuals, added in new little things like inspecting weapons, so what is the problem? They haven't ruined the game with a 50 dollar season pass, supply drops, or completely changed things to the point that it isn't even CoD4 anymore.
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Post by Will on Sept 5, 2016 12:45:34 GMT -5
Holy shit, do not change the sounds, visuals, physics, and animations of that game. Just run the bastard at native 1080p and add extras, don't ruin it. So just play it on PC with higher graphics settings, like this video I posted before? Save yourself $99 or whatever the hell this costs. See, there is absolutely no point to this "remaster", because the game already exists, and the graphics can be cranked up to be BEAUTIFUL. Our computers are much more powerful than they were when the game released
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Post by Aphoristic on Sept 5, 2016 13:45:22 GMT -5
Running the game at 4k doesn't make the textures better, nor does it add in new lighting, shading, etc. The remaster at 4k should look miles better.
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Post by Will on Sept 5, 2016 16:26:48 GMT -5
I'll concede that it will be quite a leap forward on console. But maybe my eyes are just too shitty because I don't see enough of a difference on PC to warrant a $99 purchase. I still play COD4 occasionally.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 5, 2016 16:32:33 GMT -5
I'll concede that it will be quite a leap forward on console. But maybe my eyes are just too shitty because I don't see enough of a difference on PC to warrant a $99 purchase. I still play COD4 occasionally. I'm paying $67 bucks for it on Amazon, and I'm going to resell IW on eBay for $50. And I'll have a community to play it with. Who's playing on PC?
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Post by Aphoristic on Sept 5, 2016 18:20:35 GMT -5
I'll concede that it will be quite a leap forward on console. But maybe my eyes are just too shitty because I don't see enough of a difference on PC to warrant a $99 purchase. I still play COD4 occasionally. You're only going by youtube videos. The compression makes it harder to compare.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 5, 2016 23:02:22 GMT -5
I only played CoD4 single player (MW2 was my first playing multi), so the multiplayer will be all new to me. I'm pumped.
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Post by PSIII on Sept 6, 2016 4:36:20 GMT -5
Are you trolling? Not entirely rebuilding the game in the newer engine is the "cheap" way to do it. Go play CoD4 if you want the same visuals, sounds, physics, and animations. What is even the point of a remake if they aren't going to update the game at all? You're literally asking them to just port the game and do nothing else. Hence the quotes, it's a joke. It ain't remastered, what they're calling it. Remake is the proper term. What's the point? A dead game getting a renewed player base. You either face long wait times or hackers on consoles, or nothing but long established 24/7 map servers on PC. You don't need to build up with a new engine. Polish, game stability, security, modern (UI) features, and populated servers are what's important. It really depends on how old the game is on whether it needs a face lift. It's not a jump like CS to Source or the first Halo CE to MCC. CoD4 still looks OK. I'm actually an advocate of adding in stuff to old games to make it better. But leave the aesthetics alone. They're apart of what makes some games special and without them, you don't get the true experience. CoD4 is a perfect example and important since most have not played it. The Barrett, the M40a3, the desert eagle, how guns scope in, etc. I can go on. Seriously, nothing sounds more of a killjoy than them remaking MW2 but running on the engine used for MW3, Ghosts, or whatever they're working with now. Kills the purpose. Guess CoD4 has to take one for the team. OK, after a decade you should know by now you can't hold Activision to anything they might say or what might not be expected in terms of them finding ways to your wallet. Weapon inspection? You do realize that's for camos right? Easy gate for them for camos earned, won, or gasp, bought. Holy shit, do not change the sounds, visuals, physics, and animations of that game. Just run the bastard at native 1080p and add extras, don't ruin it. So just play it on PC with higher graphics settings, like this video I posted before? Save yourself $99 or whatever the hell this costs. See, there is absolutely no point to this "remaster", because the game already exists, and the graphics can be cranked up to be BEAUTIFUL. Our computers are much more powerful than they were when the game released You're forgetting the part that MW2 only has a couple thousand people worldwide on at a time on Steam and that every other match has a hacker.
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Post by Aphoristic on Sept 6, 2016 4:53:01 GMT -5
CoD4 still looks OK. OK, after a decade you should know by now you can't hold Activision to anything they might say or what might not be expected in terms of them finding ways to your wallet. Weapon inspection? You do realize that's for camos right? Easy gate for them for camos earned, won, or gasp, bought. CoD4's visuals didn't even compare to MW2. You know that camos don't make your guns any better, right?
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Post by bradman on Sept 6, 2016 5:48:21 GMT -5
I only played CoD4 single player (MW2 was my first playing multi), so the multiplayer will be all new to me. I'm pumped. Played the crap out of it on XB360; still know the maps and all my favorite hidey spots.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 6, 2016 7:39:26 GMT -5
I only played CoD4 single player (MW2 was my first playing multi), so the multiplayer will be all new to me. I'm pumped. Played the crap out of it on XB360; still know the maps and all my favorite hidey spots. I expect to see you there, then. *thumbs up*
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Post by PSIII on Sept 6, 2016 11:06:48 GMT -5
CoD4's visuals didn't even compare to MW2. No, it doesn't. But that doesn't even matter. CoD4 still holds on its own, especially at high settings. Who cares if they don't. It just supports a ridiculous trend that allows companies to get extra money off blind, stupid people. They put all their hype behind that now. Like I said, don't hold Activision to anything. Aesthetics/cosmetics were supposed to be the only items out of supply drops, but you see what happened. I'm putting my money down that the game will eventually be able to be bought alone too, but they're saying you can only get it with IW. Ha, yeah right, all that money and effort for a locked player base.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 6, 2016 12:40:52 GMT -5
CoD4's visuals didn't even compare to MW2. No, it doesn't. But that doesn't even matter. CoD4 still holds on its own, especially at high settings. Who cares if they don't. It just supports a ridiculous trend that allows companies to get extra money off blind, stupid people. They put all their hype behind that now. Like I said, don't hold Activision to anything. Aesthetics/cosmetics were supposed to be the only items out of supply drops, but you see what happened. I'm putting my money down that the game will eventually be able to be bought alone too, but they're saying you can only get it with IW. Ha, yeah right, all that money and effort for a locked player base. If you don't want to play the Remaster, why are you here talking about it? Go talk about IW in the IW thread.
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Post by hebbnh on Sept 6, 2016 14:14:39 GMT -5
M14 sounding like poop means all my interest in this game just died. Yes, I'm fickle.
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Post by PSIII on Sept 6, 2016 14:22:18 GMT -5
I don't recall saying I didn't want to play the game.
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Post by pachiderm on Sept 6, 2016 16:52:49 GMT -5
Mini-map seems oddly sized. Calling cards and medals don't do anything but obscure the screen. Light bloom and lens flare are for real, be prepared to not be able to see someone who has a light source behind them. Gun sounds are different and seemingly worse. Not sure why they would change them if they weren't going to make them better.
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Post by Gamma on Sept 7, 2016 2:22:11 GMT -5
I only played CoD4 single player (MW2 was my first playing multi), so the multiplayer will be all new to me. I'm pumped. Just be sure to haul-arse from enemies you kill, and you'll be good to go.
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Post by wings on Sept 7, 2016 2:30:50 GMT -5
Lens flare? So every gun has a laser as a compulsory faux attachment or something?
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Post by illram on Sept 7, 2016 2:42:11 GMT -5
Yeah the new voice acting is terrible. Is the Russian guy supposed to be drunk? Wonder why they changed it.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 7, 2016 10:25:00 GMT -5
Uh yeah the general sense of entitlement I see in this thread is rather surprising. Its not enough that they made MWR, now they have to just give it to you the way you want it too. "Why should I even have to pay for single player, I just want the multiplayer. Can I not pay for Zombies, I never play it. Wow, IW/Activision is so evil and screwing over us gamers." It's ridiculous. Seeing how shitty the game got with the supply drop/pay to win/play going on . . . .isn't it understandable people would be a bit jaded? It's not an issue of entitlement. It's more an issue of getting burned by Activision. I'm done having to pay extra for map packs, guns, camos, weapons and everything else in between. I paid what? $50 for the bonus/Map pack edition and I don't think I'll even see the last few maps with BO3. It's activision's right to do whatever they want, it's their business. It's my right to call them out on it and say it sucks.
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Post by PSIII on Sept 7, 2016 17:52:31 GMT -5
Especially after playing their franchise for more than a decade and watching it get worse each year because of the shitty industry trends. Entitlement my ass.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 8, 2016 8:08:20 GMT -5
considering after the endless bitching everyone still buys the game anyway i still cant believe that anyones surprised that activision doesnt bend over for anyone here theyve made absolutely no attempt in the past ten years to hide the fact that theyre milking the ever living shit out of the franchise. they dont care. I'm only buying this Legacy edition because I can sell Infinite Warfare on eBay and end up paying only around $20 for the Remaster. If they end up requiring the Infinite Warfare game disc to playing the Remaster, I'm canceling my preorder. I have zero tolerance for their bullshit, and I've never spent an extra dime past retail on any of these games.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Sept 8, 2016 21:32:21 GMT -5
MW1 is 2nd best Duty Calls. Also the M16 is all powerful.
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Post by bucket415 on Sept 13, 2016 11:46:34 GMT -5
Currently...all signs point to needing the IW disc in order to play COD4RM. Good luck.
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