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Post by kylet357 on Feb 1, 2017 13:10:09 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, am I the only one that doesn't care how it looks? Accurate figures are sexier than any title screen will ever be. It probably just helps to have the app in a much neater configuration that's easier on the eyes and easier to use. I agree that the configuration used for most popular apps is probably the way this one should have went as well but I have no control over what BM desires to do with his creation. If he wishes to use this layout, then so be it. Maybe he'll find ways to improve upon it as time goes on. I'd be interested in seeing how he would do that. |
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Post by banana on Feb 1, 2017 14:31:51 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, am I the only one that doesn't care how it looks? Accurate figures are sexier than any title screen will ever be. The looks don't matter to me too much but it'd be cool That should be implemented after everything I requested though  |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 2, 2017 18:55:45 GMT -5
That should be implemented after everything I requested though Can you please remind me what you've requested that has not yet been implemented? |
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Post by Lexapro on Feb 3, 2017 9:59:56 GMT -5
Hi, downloaded the app and got the paid version. Not bad so far but a few random comments/questions that perhaps you can answer off-hand or with a cursory glance at the numbers:
-Sprint out time for SMGs is -0.
-Mentioned previously but alternate fire mode stats for the relevant weapons are still missing.
-I can't seem to find recoil numbers anywhere but it sounds like they were added.
-Regarding the Erad Cerberus: Does Laser Sight affect the Masterkey hip spread? Does Particle Amp affect the Masterkey range? If so, does the Masterkey get the 10% bonus that shotguns normally get or the 20% bonus that other weapons get?
-Does Auto-Sear impact any other characteristics of the weapon?
-How much extra damage does Flak deal to scorestreaks? It's odd because you can't add Ram Servo to the R.A.W. Incision so I'm not sure if the extra damage is actually worth it. It feels the Flak bonus is not very large, like 20% or so?
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Post by vcarnage on Feb 3, 2017 11:30:58 GMT -5
Hi, downloaded the app and got the paid version. Not bad so far but a few random comments/questions that perhaps you can answer off-hand or with a cursory glance at the numbers: -Sprint out time for SMGs is -0. -Mentioned previously but alternate fire mode stats for the relevant weapons are still missing. -I can't seem to find recoil numbers anywhere but it sounds like they were added. -Regarding the Erad Cerberus: Does Laser Sight affect the Masterkey hip spread? Does Particle Amp affect the Masterkey range? If so, does the Masterkey get the 10% bonus that shotguns normally get or the 20% bonus that other weapons get? -Does Auto-Sear impact any other characteristics of the weapon? -How much extra damage does Flak deal to scorestreaks? It's odd because you can't add Ram Servo to the R.A.W. Incision so I'm not sure if the extra damage is actually worth it. It feels the Flak bonus is not very large, like 20% or so? Yea, so much is missing. Bought it the day it released. Wish I could get a refund. Still no Mauler Sentinel stats too. Rather just pay Marvel 4 the 5$ for spreadsheet and updates. |
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Post by Lexapro on Feb 3, 2017 11:37:03 GMT -5
I would also pay Marvel directly for the spreadsheet but it wouldn't stop me from posting it publicly which would really limit this income. I understand why he took the app approach as its slightly harder for people to share data from the app.
This is not made easier by the fact that the app still lacks a large amount of data.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 3, 2017 15:57:59 GMT -5
Hi, downloaded the app and got the paid version. Not bad so far but a few random comments/questions that perhaps you can answer off-hand or with a cursory glance at the numbers: Thanks for checking out the app, happy to answer any questions. -Sprint out time for SMGs is -0. Oddly enough, this is correct. I can fix this to say 0, but that is the value in the code. -Mentioned previously but alternate fire mode stats for the relevant weapons are still missing. I am finishing up a few small bug fixes and improvements, but will prioritize this. -I can't seem to find recoil numbers anywhere but it sounds like they were added. What I did for this was create a method for making these numbers easier to understand. Although many of the people on this forum might understand terms like "hip view kick pitch max", the vast majority of people using the app would have no idea what that meant. I instead created a formula that takes all of the accuracy based metrics and compares them against other guns in the class. Then an overall "Accuracy" score is assigned. You will see things like Accuracy is "Excellent" "Good" "Below Average", etc... This is a combination of all recoil/accuracy stats. -Regarding the Erad Cerberus: Does Laser Sight affect the Masterkey hip spread? Does Particle Amp affect the Masterkey range? If so, does the Masterkey get the 10% bonus that shotguns normally get or the 20% bonus that other weapons get? It appears that yes, attachments on the main gun also affect the masterkey. Each attachment would affect the masterkey by the same amount as the base weapon. -Does Auto-Sear impact any other characteristics of the weapon? Yes. Range, recoil, and rate of fire (compared to the semi-auto fire cap). I will add all of this in detail to the app. -How much extra damage does Flak deal to scorestreaks? It's odd because you can't add Ram Servo to the R.A.W. Incision so I'm not sure if the extra damage is actually worth it. It feels the Flak bonus is not very large, like 20% or so? This one is a bit trickier. There are (no joke) over 300 files that are all sats files this year. In previous years it was 1 for weapons, 1 for attachments, 1 for perks, etc. The files map back and forth to one another and it is a huge easter egg hunt to find some of this stuff. Last time I spoke to Marvel about this neither of us could find it, but we will have another deeper look and try to get an exact answer. Update: It appears to be a 50% increase in damage vs scorestreaks. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 3, 2017 16:08:03 GMT -5
I would also pay Marvel directly for the spreadsheet I just wanted to let everyone know that the way the game was set up this year, there is not a single spreadsheet. There are over 300. The bulk of the data is in a few dozen, but things like variant stats require pulling data from several different files and combining it - sometimes adding or multiplying values from specific columns in multiple rows in different files. Many of the files also have different column structures, so it isn't as if they can easily be combined together either. Just wanted to let you know, because even once we post the spreadsheets it still will not be as simple as looking up a gun name and attribute column to answer most of the questions that people are posting. |
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Post by Lexapro on Feb 4, 2017 11:04:24 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info. I appreciate how difficult what you're doing is; a large part of my work is digging through tons of documentation and linked files prepared by other people and that's really challenging when you have several dozen files, let alone a few hundred.
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Post by haoz on Feb 5, 2017 0:21:32 GMT -5
Unfortunately there are no plans to make any changes regarding the items you've listed. I will not be using official game art for the splash screen. I agree that it would look better, but this is a legal requirement. Nothing can be done to change that. As for the keyboard, compatibility always takes precedence over aesthetic tweaks. If you have any doubts over the technical aspect of what I've said, feel free to read up on iOS programming documentation. I'm not expecting you to change anything art- or design-wise. I am pointing out design elements that work poorly. |
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Post by pteam on Feb 6, 2017 6:08:28 GMT -5
Can you add akimbo to the app? Since akimbo got nerfed it reduces hipfire spread and range, it would be good to know what these values are. Also does a gun like the akimbo hvr Gemini which has akimbo by default have separate stats since akimbo is built in?
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Post by tobysi on Feb 6, 2017 16:31:46 GMT -5
Can you add akimbo to the app? Since akimbo got nerfed it reduces hipfire spread and range, it would be good to know what these values are. Also does a gun like the akimbo hvr Gemini which has akimbo by default have separate stats since akimbo is built in? Thanks! Interested in this as well. I leveled up the mission team to get the Gemini and I'm disappointed. Seems pretty bad imo. |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Feb 8, 2017 0:15:20 GMT -5
so if you have windows app, you're screwed?
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 8, 2017 12:11:07 GMT -5
so if you have windows app, you're screwed? Correct, but if you have a windows phone being able to download the Ultimate Utility app is probably the least of your concerns. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 8, 2017 12:14:52 GMT -5
Update:
iOS:
I've submitted an update with a number of small improvements and bug fixes. Most relate to minor UI improvements and fixing unintended behavior. This update also adds scorestreaks.
Android:
I'll be adding scorestreaks via an update shortly. Good progress is also being made on maps and the side-by-side gun comparison.
Later this week:
- Stats for the alternate fire modes of weapons
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Post by kylet357 on Feb 8, 2017 12:52:21 GMT -5
Correct, but if you have a windows phone being able to download the Ultimate Utility app is probably the least of your concerns.  |
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Post by tobysi on Feb 8, 2017 18:31:34 GMT -5
so if you have windows app, you're screwed? Correct, but if you have a windows phone being able to download the Ultimate Utility app is probably the least of your concerns. Shots fired |
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Post by banana on Feb 9, 2017 7:57:14 GMT -5
That should be implemented after everything I requested though Can you please remind me what you've requested that has not yet been implemented? We need more variant stats More stats for guns like burst delays Still need stats for the alternate modes The graphs need a 10000% overhaul. Forget doing things like going up 5 in damage and moving up 10 meters every time for your scale. That's pointless and for most guns we will never know the true number. Mark the axises by each gun's individual damage number, distance unit change, ttk, etc!! The weapon comparison needs to be able to overlay graphs on each other asap Add variants to the graphs eventually How does the oni work |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 9, 2017 10:24:08 GMT -5
Can you please remind me what you've requested that has not yet been implemented? We need more variant stats More stats for guns like burst delays Still need stats for the alternate modes The graphs need a 10000% overhaul. Forget doing things like going up 5 in damage and moving up 10 meters every time for your scale. That's pointless and for most guns we will never know the true number. Mark the axises by each gun's individual damage number, distance unit change, ttk, etc!! The weapon comparison needs to be able to overlay graphs on each other asap Add variants to the graphs eventually How does the oni work Thanks! All great ideas. I can get at least the first three items done relatively quickly as well as more info on the Oni. The others require a good bit of work and will have to come after I get things like maps and the existing compare guns feature into Android. |
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Feb 9, 2017 17:35:42 GMT -5
Can you please remind me what you've requested that has not yet been implemented? We need more variant stats More stats for guns like burst delays Still need stats for the alternate modes The graphs need a 10000% overhaul. Forget doing things like going up 5 in damage and moving up 10 meters every time for your scale. That's pointless and for most guns we will never know the true number. Mark the axises by each gun's individual damage number, distance unit change, ttk, etc!! The weapon comparison needs to be able to overlay graphs on each other asap Add variants to the graphs eventually How does the oni work For the Oni, things like rev rate/time, and max RPM would be very helpful. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 13, 2017 14:38:33 GMT -5
Good suggestion. I've added more info to the Oni Kaiken description including max RPM both regular and akimbo, as well as the charge time and suggested attachments.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 15, 2017 10:36:45 GMT -5
Both iOS and Android apps have been updated to reflect the contents of yesterday's patch
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Post by banana on Feb 15, 2017 14:29:27 GMT -5
Both iOS and Android apps have been updated to reflect the contents of yesterday's patch Anything change weapon wise? |
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Post by banana on Feb 15, 2017 14:31:40 GMT -5
Good suggestion. I've added more info to the Oni Kaiken description including max RPM both regular and akimbo, as well as the charge time and suggested attachments. What about the regular oni? |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 15, 2017 17:17:52 GMT -5
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Feb 15, 2017 17:20:44 GMT -5
What about the regular oni? Base Oni stats (and stats for other variants) were already in the app. Are you not seeing them? |
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Post by banana on Feb 16, 2017 8:21:46 GMT -5
What about the regular oni? Base Oni stats (and stats for other variants) were already in the app. Are you not seeing them? I'm seeing them but it doesn't show the max rpm nor does it show how long it takes to get there (I'm assuming it's linear) |
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Post by pachiderm on Feb 16, 2017 22:16:09 GMT -5
So Den can we ban Lacking yet? www.reddit.com/r/CODModernWarfare/comments/5uhks3/modern_warfare_remastered_all_raw_weapon/Alright, I can't stand by and watch this bullshit of a thread anymore. Weapon Statistics are not meant to be, and will not be sold or locked behind any type of paywall. Selling your app is one thing, but forcing people to pay money to see numbers from the game they own is a whole different thing, it should be Donationware at most. I respected Marvel4 and even worked with him on the Advanced Warfare Sheet, since Black Ops III he's been requesting payment for a not-at-all hard to task to pull off, I can't respect him, same with Brass Monkeigh for the earlier stated reasons. Threatening people to ban them from an app they payed for just because they're taking screenshots, paying Marv to not give anyone else Stats, etc. If you've purchased this app, refund it, Apple allows you to try apps for a limited time. I've pulled every single .CSV from Infinite Warfare prntscr.com/d8l74v , and will be maintaining a 100%-Free Statistic Chart this year, and for the years to come. Weapon Statistics will not be sold. As a Moderator on all of the Call of Duty Subreddits, I will make sure that Brass Monkeigh's Apps are not advertised anywhere on the Subreddits, it's a scam. Here's the catch, this year it's a Foxtroting mess, stats aren't all in one nice-and-neat .CSV File, they're scattered throughout multiple files and the columns aren't even labeled, Variants also seem to be misnamed. So, I'm going to need an extra hand or two on this job with me, most likely just for this year, depending on how they do it for the years to come. I've already got a sheet made with some statistics filled in (below), all Weapons and their Variants are there, I just need some help sorting the .CSV's, figuring out which stats are which, etc. If you're interested, let me know. Sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UZ5OKX2fOpdh-P8mttDChv4bfewEoqxkMgPVfNuk4x0/edit?usp=sharingThe fact that a lock was in place to prevent multiple screenshots shows that you know the only selling point in the app is Weapon Stats, and you had to prevent people from sharing that around so that your app would sell more. Lets not forget that the Weapon Stats aren't available in the Free Version of the app. Take a look back at your Black Ops III app, it didn't sell because Marvel had a Spreadsheet out after a few months because you payed him to hold it back until January. The only interest the DenKirson and majority of the community had in your App was Weapon Stats, as demonstrated all throughout this thread. I believe I can speak on behalf of everyone that you can take your scam app elsewhere, the only selling point you had was information that's meant to be free, and will be free.  |
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Post by Zoze13 on Feb 16, 2017 23:26:03 GMT -5
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Post by Zoze13 on Feb 16, 2017 23:35:00 GMT -5
Whoa. Did LackingAGoodName as a moderator remove my comment and without notifying me in any way? (And Mousey called it). I was wondering how he got his post pinned to the top so fast. I feel like a plot device in a conspiracy movie. Original post: This information was pulled from the game and built into this spreadsheet by Marvel4, for everyone to view, free of charge. Please see his Den Kirson profile below to review his posts and all he has contributed over the years. Also, check his signature on desktop for important links. denkirson.proboards.com/user/1991 |
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