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Post by Marvel4 on Nov 4, 2016 17:46:59 GMT -5
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I'm currently working on getting the stats for Infinite Warfare, so I wanted to give you some information on how they will be released. As you probably know, last year I worked with Brass Monkeigh to release the Black Ops III stats as part of his app. While the app did very well, some people were upset because they were accustomed to me releasing the stats for free. I talked with him about working together again, but also about the criticism we received and how to improve some things. So here are some of the improvements for the Infinite Warfare app: -It will be released with stats from the full game, not the beta. -There will be a way to see when the stats were last updated. -An Android version will be released as well after a couple of weeks. You can find more information about the features of the app in this video: Feel free to share your thoughts and suggestions in this thread. Thanks!
Released apps: AppleAndroid
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Post by jmc84 on Nov 4, 2016 19:36:51 GMT -5
Thanks for all your work on this. Any idea how much the app will cost? When does your agreement expire?
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Post by banana on Nov 4, 2016 19:58:15 GMT -5
Will the app stay free?
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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 4, 2016 21:15:57 GMT -5
big up
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 4, 2016 21:55:41 GMT -5
Hey Jmc, the app will start off at $3.99 US for the full version for early purchasers and will go up to $4.99 later on. Thanks for all your work on this. Any idea how much the app will cost? When does your agreement expire?
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 4, 2016 21:57:57 GMT -5
There is a free version of the app and a pro version. The free version of the app will always be free.
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Post by Zoze13 on Nov 4, 2016 23:41:16 GMT -5
I'll gladly pay $5 for the app, well worth it Marvel4. Thank you for all the work over the years. My understanding is no one else in the world can obtain them. Cheers to you. If you're good at something never do it for free, amirite?
Do we agree, the MWR stats match the orignal COD4MW version stats? So far in my experience they do. I'm level 25 and the G3 is always a OSK in HC. And the AK47 is always a OSK in HC, unless you equip silencer or red dot. Then it has a 20 damage long range.
Thanks
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Post by netherwind on Nov 5, 2016 2:51:48 GMT -5
I have no issue paying for the stats, but didn't that guy Foxtroted up so hard, he couldn't even copy and paste the stats correctly into his app? I mean if he can fix that, I am paying for the app, but I do want access on PC if I am paying for it.
Also would be great if the app have tricks like how to edit sensitivity in file on PC.
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Post by akumetsu on Nov 5, 2016 4:56:03 GMT -5
I don't mind it, but last year android users were promissed an app as well and it never launched.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 5, 2016 9:07:05 GMT -5
It would be nearly impossible for the stats to be copied incorrectly with how I have things set up. Marvel sends me a .csv file, then I load the file into a custom parser in PHP I wrote that puts the values into a format for the app. I don't hand copy values. I think the confusion last year was because the app had stats from the beta for about the first week or so. Some people misunderstood this and assumed they were copied incorrectly. I admittedly did a poor job of dispelling misinformation at the time, because I was spending all of my time working on the app instead of on the forums. I will definitely try to add those kinds of custom tips. I find that videos are a great way to show some of those things. If you can make a list of items like that that you want to see, I can put them all into the app. Thanks for your feedback! I have no issue paying for the stats, but didn't that guy Foxtroted up so hard, he couldn't even copy and paste the stats correctly into his app? I mean if he can fix that, I am paying for the app, but I do want access on PC if I am paying for it. Also would be great if the app have tricks like how to edit sensitivity in file on PC.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 5, 2016 9:07:51 GMT -5
So far, the MWR stats seem to match exactly. The devs promised this during development, but I will update the UU for MWR app if we find any differences. I'll gladly pay $5 for the app, well worth it Marvel4. Thank you for all the work over the years. My understanding is no one else in the world can obtain them. Cheers to you. If you're good at something never do it for free, amirite? Do we agree, the MWR stats match the orignal COD4MW version stats? So far in my experience they do. I'm level 25 and the G3 is always a OSK in HC. And the AK47 is always a OSK in HC, unless you equip silencer or red dot. Then it has a 20 damage long range. Thanks
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 5, 2016 9:14:51 GMT -5
This year I have devoted considerable additional resources to making sure Android happens. I worked for months to revamp the iOS version to be more visually appealing, and much more efficient code. This made the conversion to android easier, although far from trivial. The Android version of the app is still not complete, but good progress is being made. I will create a thread to keep everyone updated as things progress. I don't mind it, but last year android users were promissed an app as well and it never launched.
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Post by tobysi on Nov 5, 2016 23:25:08 GMT -5
I'll gladly pay for an android version. Definitely appreciate all the work you do for us with the stats.
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Post by illram on Nov 7, 2016 2:47:44 GMT -5
Are stats on the free version?
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 7, 2016 8:05:51 GMT -5
No Are stats on the free version?
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Post by vcarnage on Nov 7, 2016 12:43:59 GMT -5
Is this app out with stats for all gun varients?
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 7, 2016 12:51:38 GMT -5
The free version of the Ultimate Utility for Infinite Warfare is out now on iOS. Full version will be out in another 1-3 days. Full & free versions of the Ultimate Utility app for MWR are both out now on iOS. Android versions are ~3 weeks away. The variants are more time consuming to get stats for, so the app will release with base weapons first and be updated with variants as we are able to get the stats for them. I am hopeful that we will have stats for most variants by the time the Android version releases. Is this app out with stats for all gun varients?
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Post by vcarnage on Nov 7, 2016 13:04:11 GMT -5
Ok. So its out now, but only with base stats? I dont have an apple device with me, sorry.
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Post by banana on Nov 7, 2016 14:14:04 GMT -5
It isn't out yet
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Post by haoz on Nov 7, 2016 17:07:34 GMT -5
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 7, 2016 17:43:02 GMT -5
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Post by banana on Nov 8, 2016 9:05:07 GMT -5
Am I allowed to do a weapon comparison post on Reddit using these stats once they're out?
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Post by sixone on Nov 8, 2016 9:46:28 GMT -5
I'll gladly pay for an android version. Definitely appreciate all the work you do for us with the stats. Ditto
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Post by sixone on Nov 8, 2016 9:47:31 GMT -5
Is the fire rate still tied to frame rate like pre-BO3 titles?
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 8, 2016 9:55:44 GMT -5
Thank you for asking first! You are welcome to take a small number of screenshots and post them, but I would ask that you please refrain from posting a screenshot of every single weapon/app screen or even the majority of them. If you want to compare every single weapon using your own research, gameplay, and analysis, you are more than welcome to do so, but please do not simply repost significant portions of the app. Am I allowed to do a weapon comparison post on Reddit using these stats once they're out?
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Post by illram on Nov 8, 2016 10:17:41 GMT -5
Am I allowed to do a weapon comparison post on Reddit using these stats once they're out? Weapon stats are Activision IP, so you can do whatever you want with the numbers.
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Post by haoz on Nov 8, 2016 12:04:38 GMT -5
Is the fire rate still tied to frame rate like pre-BO3 titles? Given the observation of firerates like 780 RPM, 800 RPM, and 660 RPM, we can conclude that something has changed. I just want to say again that a lot of the SMGs seem frustratingly weak. I shoot at someone just a little further away, and I hear 5-7 hitmarkers.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 8, 2016 13:42:03 GMT -5
I work with an excellent IP attorney and have devoted considerable time and resources to doing things properly. If you plan to go beyond my suggestion above, I would highly recommend seeking advice on your own as well. I can promise you that you absolutely can not "do whatever you want" with another entity's IP. Good luck with whatever you decide! Am I allowed to do a weapon comparison post on Reddit using these stats once they're out? Weapon stats are Activision IP, so you can do whatever you want with the numbers.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 8, 2016 13:58:57 GMT -5
Since this forum has some of the most devoted CoD players, I also wanted to ask how many of you would be interested in a clan feature as part of the app? It would be included in both paid & free versions.
This is a feature that has been requested frequently in the past and I think playing games (especially team games) with friends makes them much more fun, so I would like to make it happen.
My question to you all is what types of clan tools would you use? Here are just a few ideas: - Clan builder/recruiting tool - Clan management tools (calendar with reminders for matches) - Clan wars (This would require honor system reporting and is subject to dishonest opponents) - Clan messenger (group chat for your clan)
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Post by illram on Nov 8, 2016 14:43:40 GMT -5
I work with an excellent IP attorney and have devoted considerable time and resources to doing things properly. If you plan to go beyond my suggestion above, I would highly recommend seeking advice on your own as well. I can promise you that you absolutely can not "do whatever you want" with another entity's IP. Good luck with whatever you decide! Weapon stats are Activision IP, so you can do whatever you want with the numbers. Cool. I am a lawyer too. Activision might have something to say about what people do with its IP, but the one thing we can all be sure of is you do not. Unless you have a licensing agreement with them. Which I doubt. Sell your app, I'm glad Marvel is making some money, but don't pretend to own this information. That's the risk you run when you sell this info.
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