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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 15, 2016 11:52:08 GMT -5
Sure thing, I can definitely work to make the warning more obvious, and maybe present two of them before a ban instead of only one warning. Sent you an email with instructions on getting it removed. Looks like I already ran into that temporary ban you were talking about. Had to redownload for it to take effect. That's unfortunate. Lesson learned I suppose. Might want to tell people that that's a thing somewhere. I never got a warning for it. If you don't mind my asking, how long will this last? |
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Post by noyoucannot on Nov 15, 2016 11:56:15 GMT -5
Someone posted these on reddit. Not sure how accurate they are but they feel pretty close. imgur.com/a/WkuRoA few observations: - Surprised how much better range the Karma-45 has over the Erad. In practice though, I feel the Erad does kill faster and more consistently, probably due to its better accuracy and faster RoF. Erad is probably the best overall SMG but the small magazine is an unfortunate limiting factor.
- In general, the Suppressor range penalty seems to be much less punishing than in BO3. Especially on shotguns, where the impact is almost negligible. Unfortunately, shotguns are so bad in this game they need every inch of range they can get. The Type-2's range is so good that Suppressor seems free for like 99% of engagements.
- Speaking of shotguns, I feel like the Rack-9 is in a bad spot. The marginal range improvement over the Banshee isn't worth the much slower RoF, while the Spas-12 has better range for almost the same RoF. Unless the Spas has some drawback I'm unaware of, I don't see the point of ever using the Rack-9 if you have the Spas unlocked. Or really, using any of the shotguns...
- The Volk's 3SK range is ridiculous. The pros have already hailed it as the clear top weapon and its been banned on UMG. Early candidate for "retuning." In my mind, it could have its range profile swapped with the really underwhelming R3K, killing 2 birds with 1 stone.
I've been using the RAW a lot, it felt superior to the Volk aside from the footspeed movement penalty. Looks like it has very close to the same ROF (maybe the same? hard to see based on the graphs) with a lot more 3SK range. I'd like to see the stats but compared to older CODs the ADS penalty for using LMGs seems wayyyy lower. In BO3 it felt like it took ages to ADS, even with quickdraw. Also the sprintout time of LMGs is noticeably low. I believe XclusiveAce did a video on it an said all weapons that he looked at had the same sprintout or very close to it. Those things make me actually find using a LMG viable, because if LMGs in this game had large ADS/sprintout times they would be in trouble with how small the maps are. What I really like about the RAW over the Volk too is that you have no need for scavenger or dexterity if you use Fusion Mag. Free infinite ammo with no reloads. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 15, 2016 12:23:19 GMT -5
Someone posted these on reddit. Not sure how accurate they are but they feel pretty close. imgur.com/a/WkuRoA few observations: - Surprised how much better range the Karma-45 has over the Erad. In practice though, I feel the Erad does kill faster and more consistently, probably due to its better accuracy and faster RoF. Erad is probably the best overall SMG but the small magazine is an unfortunate limiting factor.
- In general, the Suppressor range penalty seems to be much less punishing than in BO3. Especially on shotguns, where the impact is almost negligible. Unfortunately, shotguns are so bad in this game they need every inch of range they can get. The Type-2's range is so good that Suppressor seems free for like 99% of engagements.
- Speaking of shotguns, I feel like the Rack-9 is in a bad spot. The marginal range improvement over the Banshee isn't worth the much slower RoF, while the Spas-12 has better range for almost the same RoF. Unless the Spas has some drawback I'm unaware of, I don't see the point of ever using the Rack-9 if you have the Spas unlocked. Or really, using any of the shotguns...
- The Volk's 3SK range is ridiculous. The pros have already hailed it as the clear top weapon and its been banned on UMG. Early candidate for "retuning." In my mind, it could have its range profile swapped with the really underwhelming R3K, killing 2 birds with 1 stone.
I've been using the RAW a lot, it felt superior to the Volk aside from the footspeed movement penalty. Looks like it has very close to the same ROF (maybe the same? hard to see based on the graphs) with a lot more 3SK range. I'd like to see the stats but compared to older CODs the ADS penalty for using LMGs seems wayyyy lower. In BO3 it felt like it took ages to ADS, even with quickdraw. Also the sprintout time of LMGs is noticeably low. I believe XclusiveAce did a video on it an said all weapons that he looked at had the same sprintout or very close to it. Those things make me actually find using a LMG viable, because if LMGs in this game had large ADS/sprintout times they would be in trouble with how small the maps are. What I really like about the RAW over the Volk too is that you have no need for scavenger or dexterity if you use Fusion Mag. Free infinite ammo with no reloads. Still finishing some of the TTK info, but it looks like the RAW may have the best TTK numbers of any auto/burst weapon in the mid to high mid distance ranges |
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Post by clearshot on Nov 15, 2016 12:53:42 GMT -5
I think the M1 has one of the best TTKs at long range. Sadly Hollow Point doesn't make it a OHK to the head so it's a waste of an attachment.
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Post by haoz on Nov 15, 2016 13:08:04 GMT -5
Someone posted these on reddit. Not sure how accurate they are but they feel pretty close. imgur.com/a/WkuRoA few observations: - Surprised how much better range the Karma-45 has over the Erad. In practice though, I feel the Erad does kill faster and more consistently, probably due to its better accuracy and faster RoF. Erad is probably the best overall SMG but the small magazine is an unfortunate limiting factor.
- In general, the Suppressor range penalty seems to be much less punishing than in BO3. Especially on shotguns, where the impact is almost negligible. Unfortunately, shotguns are so bad in this game they need every inch of range they can get. The Type-2's range is so good that Suppressor seems free for like 99% of engagements.
- Speaking of shotguns, I feel like the Rack-9 is in a bad spot. The marginal range improvement over the Banshee isn't worth the much slower RoF, while the Spas-12 has better range for almost the same RoF. Unless the Spas has some drawback I'm unaware of, I don't see the point of ever using the Rack-9 if you have the Spas unlocked. Or really, using any of the shotguns...
- The Volk's 3SK range is ridiculous. The pros have already hailed it as the clear top weapon and its been banned on UMG. Early candidate for "retuning." In my mind, it could have its range profile swapped with the really underwhelming R3K, killing 2 birds with 1 stone.
Based on JustABitAgroed's spreadsheet before he removed it, the Volk already has a slower ADS time of 0.300, just like the man o war (before the nerf). The 3HK range is also the same as the man or war, and the RoF is slower. I'd say keep it as is. |
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Post by lustindarkness on Nov 15, 2016 13:51:17 GMT -5
I need you people to stop using the RAW, that one is mine. Thank you.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 15, 2016 14:18:48 GMT -5
I'd like to see the stats but compared to older CODs the ADS penalty for using LMGs seems wayyyy lower. In BO3 it felt like it took ages to ADS, even with quickdraw. Also the sprintout time of LMGs is noticeably low. I believe XclusiveAce did a video on it an said all weapons that he looked at had the same sprintout or very close to it. Those things make me actually find using a LMG viable, because if LMGs in this game had large ADS/sprintout times they would be in trouble with how small the maps are. I'll see if I can put some of this together after I finish work on the app. |
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Post by noyoucannot on Nov 15, 2016 15:15:23 GMT -5
Stats mostly confirming what I believed from playing the game so far.
RPR seems to have better TTK in AR mode in ranges past 300 units.
If this is same units as BO3, SMG is basically only better at point blank range. Like getting the point blank medal in game.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 15, 2016 15:21:39 GMT -5
Stats mostly confirming what I believed from playing the game so far. RPR seems to have better TTK in AR mode in ranges past 300 units. If this is same units as BO3, SMG is basically only better at point blank range. Like getting the point blank medal in game. This is correct. Base units are inches, but the app converts to meters. Same as BO3 |
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Post by flatulentmonkeys on Nov 15, 2016 15:58:44 GMT -5
If anyone would like to post the stats but not get banned send them to me and I will post them for you here. Shit, I'll PP you the $5 to buy the app and put the stats into a spreadsheet. Hell, I'd pay $20 for it. |
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Post by ksms on Nov 15, 2016 19:18:59 GMT -5
I bought the app, but the stats seems to be not that accurate.
Especially range values.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CENTIMETERS ARE IN AN INCH?
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Post by kylet357 on Nov 15, 2016 19:45:13 GMT -5
I bought the app, but the stats seems to be not that accurate. Especially range values. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CENTIMETERS ARE IN AN INCH? At least 1. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 15, 2016 20:38:23 GMT -5
I bought the app, but the stats seems to be not that accurate. Especially range values. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CENTIMETERS ARE IN AN INCH? Thanks for checking out the app. All of the values are direct from game code, but if you let me know which values you feel are inaccurate and what you are comparing them to, I am happy to double check anything. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 15, 2016 20:52:16 GMT -5
Daily Update:
- New version (v1.0.2) was released this morning. If you downloaded the app last night (14th) or early on the 15th, I highly recommend you download this ASAP. you can check which version you have by looking in the top right of the profile page. v1.0.1 had a big where stats for Assault Rifles would sometimes be loaded into other weapons. This was fixed and approved in under 24 hours.
- Maps were updated
- Hot fix for two weapon images that were not appearing
- Hot fix corrected game mode names in Let's Play & replaced Origin Platform with Steam
"To Do" for tomorrow/next few days
- Finish adding in weapons that were improperly named in the stats files. (A couple of guns are still missing because I couldn't tell which stats belonged to that weapon due to naming convention inconsistencies and did not want to add in the wrong stats)
- Add in TTK & DPS over distance graphs
- Add in more detailed info for grenades, rigs & perks
- Add in all objective locations & callouts to maps
- Add more tips videos for individual items
- Improve Pwn Box mechanism for seeing who/how many people are online. Chat is currently flooded by "_____ joined the chat" messages.
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Post by vcarnage on Nov 16, 2016 10:39:34 GMT -5
I do not have an apple device. If someone could post a spreadsheet, that would be great. BTW i would gladly pay if it were on android.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 16, 2016 12:22:56 GMT -5
I do not have an apple device. If someone could post a spreadsheet, that would be great. BTW i would gladly pay if it were on android. The Android version of the app is almost done  I can't give an exact release date, but best guess is ~10 days. I will post as we get closer to release & also have Marvel update the links at the top of this thread. Just like on iOS, Android will have both paid & free versions of the app. |
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Post by vcarnage on Nov 16, 2016 12:26:13 GMT -5
Oh, Great! I can wait til then. Thanx for reply. Mainly curious of Mammoth mauler ttk....lol
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Post by banana on Nov 17, 2016 8:23:03 GMT -5
Will attachment stats be added?
In the weapon comparison for snipers, take out dps and bullet damage. Add Headshots, Neck, Chest, and stomach shots to kill.
For shotguns, take out the damage per pellet and dps, add amount of pellets, range for 1 pellet kill, 2, 3, etc, add spread size for moving and standing, add ads spread size
For reg guns, take out bullet damage, dps, and chest shots to kill. Add range for 2 shot, 3 shot, 4 shot etc. Add ttk @ 2 shots to kill, 3 shot, 4 shot, etc. Add strafe speed.
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Nov 17, 2016 8:52:42 GMT -5
We need more multipliers as well. Stomach/groin, arms, legs, hands, and feet. Amount of pellets is 8 for everything. If you look at the killshots section, it already has pellets needed to kill. Specific pellet damage over range would be nice though. And hipspread figures for everything as well. For reg guns we need damages for every range, not just max and min. And yes, movement speeds for both ADS and not would be great. Oh, and sprintout figures.  |
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Post by banana on Nov 17, 2016 9:42:30 GMT -5
Ooh forgot sprint out
Perk stats would be sick too
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Post by sgtw on Nov 17, 2016 11:06:18 GMT -5
I just bought the app. Not only does it show absolutely no information except the name of the guns, but they're from BLACK OPS 3!?!? What the fuck!??
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Post by spas12 on Nov 17, 2016 12:20:04 GMT -5
SGTW - sign into the app, small brain...
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Post by haoz on Nov 17, 2016 12:31:49 GMT -5
I have to say the app is a bit awkward to use.
1. What's the point of the locks over the weapon pictures? You intuitively click on the weapon pictures to see the stats, and all you do is toggle some lock icon whose purpose I do not know.
2. Having to register leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
3. You should put in units for ADS and damage range.
4. "Pwn Box" crashes the app
5. Why doesn't the app support the modern iOS keyboard?
6. Clicking on a map in the maps section freezes the app as it takes time to load the map image.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 17, 2016 13:05:35 GMT -5
Oh, Great! I can wait til then. Thanx for reply. Mainly curious of Mammoth mauler ttk....lol You don't have to wait for that Mauler TTK is 320ms close & 400ms far |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 17, 2016 13:10:29 GMT -5
Will attachment stats be added? In the weapon comparison for snipers, take out dps and bullet damage. Add Headshots, Neck, Chest, and stomach shots to kill. For shotguns, take out the damage per pellet and dps, add amount of pellets, range for 1 pellet kill, 2, 3, etc, add spread size for moving and standing, add ads spread size For reg guns, take out bullet damage, dps, and chest shots to kill. Add range for 2 shot, 3 shot, 4 shot etc. Add ttk @ 2 shots to kill, 3 shot, 4 shot, etc. Add strafe speed. Attachments will definitely be added. They will be added in two places; first they will have their own section in the strategies tab listing detailed info about each one. Additionally, the damage over distance graphs in the weapons sections will be updated to have lines for some of the common attachments. (Ex: silencer) The Ultimate Utility app for MWR already has this, but it will be added to the UU for IW soon too. As for the weapon comparison tool change requests, I probably won't remove any of the comparison items, but I can definitely add all of the things you requested. Also in reply to your follow up post, Perk Stats are 100% in the works. Those were always planned, I just didn't want to add them into the 1.0 version as I didn't have the images or much info for them yet. I can definitely add sprint out too. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 17, 2016 13:14:21 GMT -5
We need more multipliers as well. Stomach/groin, arms, legs, hands, and feet. Amount of pellets is 8 for everything. If you look at the killshots section, it already has pellets needed to kill. Specific pellet damage over range would be nice though. And hipspread figures for everything as well. For reg guns we need damages for every range, not just max and min. And yes, movement speeds for both ADS and not would be great. Oh, and sprintout figures. 10-4. Specific pellet damage over range can be found on the damage graph for shotguns. I can definitely add hip fire spread info too. As for regular guns, the mid range damages are shown in the graph, but I can add the numerical values and sprintout times as well in the stats list |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 17, 2016 13:16:18 GMT -5
I just bought the app. Not only does it show absolutely no information except the name of the guns, but they're from BLACK OPS 3!?!? What the Foxtrot!?? I saw your follow up post, so I'm glad you got this figured out. For anyone else reading - yes, you must be signed in or this error happens. I agree this is confusing though, so I will make a better error dialogue in a future update. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 17, 2016 13:29:41 GMT -5
I have to say the app is a bit awkward to use. 1. What's the point of the locks over the weapon pictures? You intuitively click on the weapon pictures to see the stats, and all you do is toggle some lock icon whose purpose I do not know. 2. Having to register leaves a bad taste in my mouth. 3. You should put in units for ADS and damage range. 4. "Pwn Box" crashes the app 5. Why doesn't the app support the modern iOS keyboard? 6. Clicking on a map in the maps section freezes the app as it takes time to load the map image. Thanks for the feedback! 1) Some people like to keep track of what they have unlocked. If you don't want to use this feature, you can click the counter in the top right (xx/23) and select "Unlock All". 2) Sorry, I know this adds an extra step, but this is necessary for the app to work. Getting player card stats, chat, private messaging, let's play matchmaking, and for games that support it, the ability to automatically sync which items that the player has unlocked in the game all require some sort of account to tie the data to. I know it's one extra step, but I made it so that the same account can be used with any Brass Monkeigh app, meaning that once you make your account, it will work for any other Ultimate Utility for any game you play and any future year of Call of Duty, so it should just be a one time thing. 3) Can do 4) Oops! This is a new bug that must have just started today. I will look into this as soon as I finish this post. 5) I try to make all of my apps support as many different types of devices as I can. This app is designed to support iOS 7 and newer. That means that some the newest stuff doesn't get supported. The alternative is you get a newer keyboard, but the app literally doesn't work at all for everyone who is not using the newest iOS version. 6) I will try to speed this up in a future update if possible, but it does take time to load the map files. |
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Post by fpsdredd on Nov 17, 2016 15:23:35 GMT -5
I do not have an apple device. If someone could post a spreadsheet, that would be great. BTW i would gladly pay if it were on android. same |
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Post by vcarnage on Nov 17, 2016 16:15:21 GMT -5
Alright, I can't stand by and watch this bullshit of a thread anymore. Weapon Statistics are not meant to be, and will not be sold or locked behind any type of paywall. Selling your app is one thing, but forcing people to pay money to see numbers from the game they own is a whole different thing, it should be Donationware at most. I respected Marvel4 and even worked with him on the Advanced Warfare Sheet, since Black Ops III he's been requesting payment for a not-at-all hard to task to pull off, I can't respect him, same with Brass Monkeigh for the earlier stated reasons. Threatening people to ban them from an app they payed for just because they're taking screenshots, paying Marv to not give anyone else Stats, etc. If you've purchased this app, refund it, Apple allows you to try apps for a limited time. I've pulled every single .CSV from Infinite Warfare prntscr.com/d8l74v , and will be maintaining a 100%-Free Statistic Chart this year, and for the years to come. Weapon Statistics will not be sold. As a Moderator on all of the Call of Duty Subreddits, I will make sure that Brass Monkeigh's Apps are not advertised anywhere on the Subreddits, it's a scam. Here's the catch, this year it's a Foxtroting mess, stats aren't all in one nice-and-neat .CSV File, they're scattered throughout multiple files and the columns aren't even labeled, Variants also seem to be misnamed. So, I'm going to need an extra hand or two on this job with me, most likely just for this year, depending on how they do it for the years to come. I've already got a sheet made with some statistics filled in (below), all Weapons and their Variants are there, I just need some help sorting the .CSV's, figuring out which stats are which, etc. If you're interested, let me know. Sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UZ5OKX2fOpdh-P8mttDChv4bfewEoqxkMgPVfNuk4x0/edit?usp=sharingThank You so much for all your effort. Unbelievably grateful! |
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Looks like I already ran into that temporary ban you were talking about. Had to redownload for it to take effect. That's unfortunate. Lesson learned I suppose. Might want to tell people that that's a thing somewhere. I never got a warning for it. If you don't mind my asking, how long will this last?
