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Post by iw5000 on Oct 6, 2017 8:37:46 GMT -5
Yay me.
Funny thing about it was that I was using a second character. Yes, I gave in and started a second character. I probably should just shoot myself in the head now. Kill me. But I did it. Why? I have been buying all the exotic pieces from Xur for the other classes, so I have them all there. I can get to level 20, toss on an exotic, sponge off the freebies from the clan (thanks for playing video games with me Dumien, and letting me get free shit)...I think I can immediately raise my Titan to a high level. Bypass a ton of grinding. At least that is the plan.
Anyways, part of leveling up below level 10 is one has to do the Crucible, competitive playlist. Two games for a prize or something. So I went in at level 8. Two of my other three teammates were below me, with the last at level 20. We faced off against a clan. A clan I must say, that very well might be the worst clan in Destiny. My team smoked them in a large part due to my going into beast mode with my crap-azz guns.
Here's to my level 22 assault rifle and a stiff right uppercut.
At least for the next few hours, I can pretend to be a FPS god.
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Post by bradman on Oct 6, 2017 10:59:29 GMT -5
Red bar superstar detected.
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Post by iw5000 on Oct 6, 2017 11:40:51 GMT -5
Red bar superstar detected. I'm a superstar until the next time I sign in, and then precede to get annihilated. |
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 6, 2017 11:51:31 GMT -5
Worst thread ever
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Post by iw5000 on Oct 6, 2017 11:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Oct 6, 2017 14:44:59 GMT -5
DDOS attack incoming.....
Most people save this sort of thing for Trials.....
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Post by GodMars on Oct 6, 2017 16:55:45 GMT -5
I thought this was going to be an AMA; I was disappointed to see it was not. 0/10, would not bro again.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Oct 7, 2017 15:35:16 GMT -5
Anyways, part of leveling up below level 10 is one has to do the Crucible, competitive playlist. Nah.   |
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Post by malgato on Oct 7, 2017 16:51:36 GMT -5
How can you hate Crucible when you haven't even tried it? Try it, and then discover why you hate it. Yes?
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 7, 2017 17:30:00 GMT -5
Zero supers and zero mêlées?!?
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Oct 7, 2017 18:24:53 GMT -5
How can you hate Crucible when you haven't even tried it? Try it, and then discover why you hate it. Yes? Sure, as soon as you give me your fully informed tried-it review of full blown AIDS. Zero supers and zero mêlées?!? Hey I didn't make Destiny tracker take it up with them. |
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 7, 2017 18:58:27 GMT -5
I'm happy to announce that Crucible is better than full blown AIDS
Bungee can pull that quote for their box cover GOTY edition
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Post by pachiderm on Oct 10, 2017 22:16:13 GMT -5
I'm happy to announce that Crucible is better than full blown AIDS Marginally |
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Post by qupie on Oct 11, 2017 3:49:15 GMT -5
Have you guys even given it a fair chance? This version of the crucible is by far the best we have ever seen imho. Netcode still sucks, but at least there are a lot of viable strategies and you actually have to coordinate as a team.
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Post by markopolo on Oct 11, 2017 11:19:47 GMT -5
I vastly enjoy this version of the crucible over D1's.
I'd much rather lose a gun fight over a 1hk melee or skip grenade chasing me half way across the map.
the only ability kills I get are nova bombs
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Post by pachiderm on Oct 11, 2017 16:50:11 GMT -5
Have you guys even given it a fair chance? This version of the crucible is by far the best we have ever seen imho. Netcode still sucks, but at least there are a lot of viable strategies and you actually have to coordinate as a team. I knifed a titan twice in the back yesterday and he didn't die. |
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 11, 2017 17:10:54 GMT -5
Yeah those guys are like tanks
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Post by qupie on Oct 12, 2017 3:38:27 GMT -5
Have you guys even given it a fair chance? This version of the crucible is by far the best we have ever seen imho. Netcode still sucks, but at least there are a lot of viable strategies and you actually have to coordinate as a team. I knifed a titan twice in the back yesterday and he didn't die. 2HK melee are not a thing anymore. Melee is a finishing move now, not a stupid netcode dual. Starting with a melee and backpedaling while shooting is another great way to win a 1v1. |
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Post by TheHawkNY on Oct 12, 2017 9:36:27 GMT -5
Have you guys even given it a fair chance? This version of the crucible is by far the best we have ever seen imho. Netcode still sucks, but at least there are a lot of viable strategies and you actually have to coordinate as a team. You'll have to explain to me what these viable strategies are, the only one I'm familiar with is "teamshoot". D2 has coordination - you all run together so you can teamshoot. This is boring. Everyone has the same role. I'd like to be able to have a unique, defined role; not be a lemming. |
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Post by hebbnh on Oct 12, 2017 9:49:14 GMT -5
Then roll off from your other 3 teammates and go for flanks while they teamshoot and distract enemies. It's free kills a lot of times. While teamshooting may be the strategy most people default to, it's certainly not the only viable one.
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Post by GodMars on Oct 12, 2017 9:59:26 GMT -5
Then roll off from your other 3 teammates and go for flanks while they teamshoot and distract enemies. It's free kills a lot of times. While teamshooting may be the strategy most people default to, it's certainly not the only viable one. That’s what Hawk does. It’s still a shallow experience. |
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Post by iw5000 on Oct 12, 2017 10:00:36 GMT -5
My complaints with Destiny's PvP don't have to do much with the tactics. I think there's enough on the tactics/strategies front. I don't think it offers the same variety of play styles that CoD does, but it's not horrible. Team shooting is what is needed. Slow ttk's, recovery on your own shields, you simply can't mow down opponents like you do in CoD. But there are tactics. I've certainly seen it when playing the trials of the nine. A few nights ago was a perfect example playing with mal and the heb's. We weren't quite as organized as the other teams, and it showed. Plus having me not do so well didn't help either. Team killing is essential.
Speaking of which, I need to figure out my issues with sprinting. I'm still not sure if it's due to my controller or something in the mechanics of the new game. Sometimes sprinting works, sometimes it doesn't. Like I cant' sprint at all for entire blocks of time. This really REALLY hurts me in pvp, as I'm typically late to my spots, can't get to heavy ammo, and a whole host of other issues.
My complaints with pvp kind of fall with the following
1. Jumping - the more jumping, the shittier the FPS play imho(but that said, D2 is better than CoD Exo system)
2. The net code is bad at times. Not talking milliseconds, sometimes it feels like a full sec or two behind.
3. Supers - Free insta kill based on nothing. But this does seemed toned a bit down from D1
4. Can't play the game you want. I'm forced to play game modes I don't like
5. No private lobbies - This is a feature that should be there. At least for map learning purposes
6. 4x4. this is to small for Control. Games just race around a bit to much.
7. 4x4 also hurts solo players a bit too.
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Post by iw5000 on Oct 12, 2017 10:08:14 GMT -5
For example. Destiny's 'Control' mode is comparable to CoD's Domination. Got to be blunt here, but Destiny's control comes NO WHERE close to what CoD's Domination used to be able to do in it's heyday. A good well matched CoD Dom game, had actual tactics involved. Controlling certain spots on a map. Getting to power points. Locking them down. Spawn trapping at time if you got it. Using different weapons and grenades (smoke, flashes, etc..). Back and forth, figuring out where the opponent was coming. Playing offense and defense. Trying to time caps with kill streaks.
Destiny's control? It's 4 vs 4. You basically just run around rotating flags. Nothing described above really happens. You just rush to a flag, cap it, and then race to the next one. Flags rotate quickly because it's 4 vs 4...due to the small number, and spawns, smaller maps, mismatches happen (1 vs 2), and you will die.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Oct 12, 2017 10:33:17 GMT -5
For example. Destiny's 'Control' mode is comparable to CoD's Domination. Got to be blunt here, but Destiny's control comes NO WHERE close to what CoD's Domination used to be able to do in it's heyday. A good well matched CoD Dom game, had actual tactics involved. Controlling certain spots on a map. Getting to power points. Locking them down. Spawn trapping at time if you got it. Using different weapons and grenades (smoke, flashes, etc..). Back and forth, figuring out where the opponent was coming. Playing offense and defense. Trying to time caps with kill streaks. Destiny's control? It's 4 vs 4. You basically just run around rotating flags. Nothing described above really happens. You just rush to a flag, cap it, and then race to the next one. Flags rotate quickly because it's 4 vs 4...due to the small number, and spawns, smaller maps, mismatches happen (1 vs 2), and you will die. The issue is the layout of the flags - triangular vs. in a line. The maps are for the most part triangular, which results in constantly flipping flags. There are only three maps I can think of where map control is achievable whatsoever - the Shores of Time remake, the Emperor's Respite (the Leviathan map), and Altar of Flame (the Mercury map). Two of those are the only maps that have the points in a line. |
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Post by qupie on Oct 12, 2017 10:50:39 GMT -5
teamshotting doesn't mean you have to be close to each other. How is solo killing any more strategic than teamshotting?
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Post by iw5000 on Oct 12, 2017 10:58:30 GMT -5
For example. Destiny's 'Control' mode is comparable to CoD's Domination. Got to be blunt here, but Destiny's control comes NO WHERE close to what CoD's Domination used to be able to do in it's heyday. A good well matched CoD Dom game, had actual tactics involved. Controlling certain spots on a map. Getting to power points. Locking them down. Spawn trapping at time if you got it. Using different weapons and grenades (smoke, flashes, etc..). Back and forth, figuring out where the opponent was coming. Playing offense and defense. Trying to time caps with kill streaks. Destiny's control? It's 4 vs 4. You basically just run around rotating flags. Nothing described above really happens. You just rush to a flag, cap it, and then race to the next one. Flags rotate quickly because it's 4 vs 4...due to the small number, and spawns, smaller maps, mismatches happen (1 vs 2), and you will die. The issue is the layout of the flags - triangular vs. in a line. The maps are for the most part triangular, which results in constantly flipping flags. There are only three maps I can think of where map control is achievable whatsoever - the Shores of Time remake, the Emperor's Respite (the Leviathan map), and Altar of Flame (the Mercury map). Two of those are the only maps that have the points in a line. That's a good point. Having only four players on a side probably makes the above swapping issue even more prevalent. There's just always an open spot to go run too. What doesn't help is I wasn't even sure of the above. I can't see the maps. Call of Duty pretty much shows you all it's maps. Go online and see how they are set up. Get a list. It's all there, public knowledge. Destiny? I can't find a map list online showing the setups. |
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Post by markopolo on Oct 12, 2017 11:04:25 GMT -5
Have you guys even given it a fair chance? This version of the crucible is by far the best we have ever seen imho. Netcode still sucks, but at least there are a lot of viable strategies and you actually have to coordinate as a team. I knifed a titan twice in the back yesterday and he didn't die. Unless they're running with below 4 (I think) resilience... almost all classes take 3 melees to kill, at full health and shield. |
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Post by TheHawkNY on Oct 12, 2017 11:07:05 GMT -5
teamshotting doesn't mean you have to be close to each other. How is solo killing any more strategic than teamshotting? Teamshotting does not mean you have to be close to each other. However, if your enemies are competent players, not being close to one another is suicide. You can't consistently effectively flank competent players. If they are in a gunfight with your teammates, and you come from a different direction, they will use cover to be shielded from your teammates and then light you up. Where is there any strategy in Destiny PvP? Where is there any diversity in playstyle? |
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Post by markopolo on Oct 12, 2017 11:16:38 GMT -5
Where is there any strategy in Destiny PvP? Where is there any diversity in playstyle? Who needs diversity when you have friendship? [/sarcasm] |
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Post by hebbnh on Oct 12, 2017 12:38:29 GMT -5
teamshotting doesn't mean you have to be close to each other. How is solo killing any more strategic than teamshotting? Teamshotting does not mean you have to be close to each other. However, if your enemies are competent players, not being close to one another is suicide. You can't consistently effectively flank competent players. If they are in a gunfight with your teammates, and you come from a different direction, they will use cover to be shielded from your teammates and then light you up. Where is there any strategy in Destiny PvP? Where is there any diversity in playstyle? To be fair, teamshotting is kind of always going to be a thing in any high TTK game, it’s not a Destiny specific issue. That scenario above just comes with the territory, doesn’t it? I’d argue the strategy is being on the same page enough with your team so that when they counter your flank, you get teammates that push hard to counter their counter. You really do need to be able to switch from a somewhat passive play style to a very aggressive one quickly (and vice versa) to have the most success IMO. |
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