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Post by thexclusiveace on Nov 28, 2017 12:17:41 GMT -5
One thing I couldn't find in your app is the range which avanced rifling increases for weapons. Could we get some more info on that? For sure, the weapon graphs now have Advanced Rifling added as an orange line. For SMGs, the first damage drop is unaffected. Only the later ranges are improved with this attachment. I don't think we have ever seen things work this way in past games. For all other weapons, all ranges are improved. Edit: Additionally, the description for Advanced Rifling in the attachments section has always had a description of the ways that each class is affected by this attachment, but there are some weapons that don't follow the standard values for their classs. The exact values for each weapon can be seen on the individual weapon graphs. Long Barrel worked pretty much exactly like this in BO3 for SMGs. 25% increase to minimum damage range as well as 5th damage range with no impact on your maximum damage range. It's clear that many of the gameplay mechanics in WW2 are inspired by BO3.
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Post by quickbuck on Nov 29, 2017 5:32:21 GMT -5
sorry, my comment was now irrelevent, so I deleted it, I was replying to an unrefreshed page... doh
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Post by fhelps on Nov 30, 2017 13:20:33 GMT -5
Hey! What's the correct amount of increase in fire rate using Rapid Fire with LMGs? Because in the Attachments page of the app it says 9.9%, but looking into the individual page of each LMG and doing the calculation, it indicates that only MG-42 is gaining 9.9%, the other ones calculation falls in line with the 6.4% from the ARs and SMGs, then I don't know which fire rate increase is the correct one.
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Post by qupie on Dec 1, 2017 7:37:30 GMT -5
Any hard data on what was changed in flinch mechanics?
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 1, 2017 12:25:06 GMT -5
Primed effectiveness got reduced by 85%.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Dec 1, 2017 13:00:35 GMT -5
Hey! What's the correct amount of increase in fire rate using Rapid Fire with LMGs? Because in the Attachments page of the app it says 9.9%, but looking into the individual page of each LMG and doing the calculation, it indicates that only MG-42 is gaining 9.9%, the other ones calculation falls in line with the 6.4% from the ARs and SMGs, then I don't know which fire rate increase is the correct one. Great question - the amount shown in the attachments section is the default adjustment value for each weapon class. The thing is, not every weapon uses the default value for the class it is in. Some have custom values. For this reason, use the values on the individual weapon page if you want to know the value for that specific gun. In the case of LMGs, the default value for rapid fire is not the most commonly used value.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Dec 1, 2017 13:02:30 GMT -5
Primed effectiveness got reduced by 85%. Yes, drift0r did some testing on it too.
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Post by banana on Dec 2, 2017 18:31:02 GMT -5
does advanced rifling boost the bar's 3 shot?
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Post by lustindarkness on Dec 2, 2017 19:47:13 GMT -5
does advanced rifling boost the bar's 3 shot? Yes, but not by much, not worth it IMO. Looking at the chart in the app, it goes from 18m to @24m. Let me look for Ace's vid...
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Post by banana on Dec 2, 2017 22:08:56 GMT -5
does advanced rifling boost the bar's 3 shot? Yes, but not by much, not worth it IMO. Looking at the chart in the app, it goes from 18m to @24m. Let me look for Ace's vid... looks good enough for me tbh. Mountain + Primed; QD, Grip, AR (SND) Airborne + Primed; same as above (CTF) Infantry + Hunker; same as above (Hardpoint)
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Post by qupie on Dec 4, 2017 7:20:55 GMT -5
Why not use an FG with rapid fire over an Bar with advanced rifling?
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Post by banana on Dec 4, 2017 12:07:43 GMT -5
Why not use an FG with rapid fire over an Bar with advanced rifling? I was talking about ranked play, I should have specified. What is the FG's RoF with rapid fire vs the Bar's normal fire rate btw?
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Post by qupie on Dec 5, 2017 4:10:47 GMT -5
550 vs 571
While the 3HK ranges are ~40 meters for a non AR FG vs ~25 for an AR BAR.
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Post by banana on Dec 5, 2017 15:20:11 GMT -5
at what ranges dos the ppsh beat the grease gun in ttk?
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 5, 2017 15:26:48 GMT -5
at what ranges dos the ppsh beat the grease gun in ttk? Beats it by 81ms after 11m, then 1ms after 17m, then 25ms after 25m.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 5, 2017 18:32:30 GMT -5
at what ranges dos the ppsh beat the grease gun in ttk? Beats it by 81ms after 11m, then 1ms after 17m, then 25ms after 25m. It's important to note that the above is only relevant when you're preADS; if you factor in the fact that the ppsh is 50ms faster in both sprintout and ADS times it beats the grease gun at all ranges.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 9, 2017 14:28:57 GMT -5
Looking forward to the stats on the new guns, hope they come soon. Trying to decide if they are worth spending armory credits on.
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Post by Usagi on Dec 10, 2017 1:43:28 GMT -5
the sten is legit, its basically just another type 100
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 10, 2017 2:34:34 GMT -5
the sten is pretty medium, its basically just another type 100
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 10, 2017 14:06:32 GMT -5
I’ve heard the Sten is either a copy of the Type 100 or the MP40. Which is a bummer, because both suck. Bummer.
Hoping the Gewehr has a 2HK. Anybody tried it yet?
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Post by qupie on Dec 11, 2017 4:36:12 GMT -5
Why are you all disliking the type 100? That gun is pretty rad
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 11, 2017 7:53:28 GMT -5
Why are you all disliking the type 100? That gun is pretty rad It's not terrible, it just doesn't really have a role. Being the slowest killing SMG and getting good recoil in return isn't a great trade when the all around best SMG (ppsh) has very controllable vertical recoil anyway and the actually played ARs still dumpster you in your preferred range. Also, the fact that now the sten does basically the same thing with a (marginally) larger magazine and a 3hk in barrel stuff range means the type-100 is even more pointless.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Dec 11, 2017 13:41:09 GMT -5
The exact stats for Winter Siege weapons have been added to the Ultimate Utility app.
A Loose Overview: The Gewehr is statistically somewhat similar to the M1 Carbine The Sten is statistically somewhat similar to the MP40 The GPMG is statistically somewhat similar to the MG 15
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Post by qupie on Dec 12, 2017 4:38:05 GMT -5
Are they somewhat similar but better, or somewhat similar and equal?
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 12, 2017 11:00:14 GMT -5
Are they somewhat similar but better, or somewhat similar and equal? The Sten is close, probably a little better. The GPMG is worse, I don't know who thought a 4hk gun with a 30 round mag would be usable with an LMG reload time but it really isn't unless you're ca mping your nuts off (and even then it's still probably worse). The Gewehr is even worse than the m1a1, if you can imagine that. It's literally a 3-5hk SEMI AUTO. It's honestly insulting that it's even in the game really, I'd rather get a grip in my loot crates tbhfam. Worst gun in the game by far, shotguns included
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Post by banana on Dec 21, 2017 11:29:14 GMT -5
What shoots faster now, mp40 or ppsh
what about waffe and thompson
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Post by banana on Dec 21, 2017 11:32:50 GMT -5
also what is the machine pistol's 4 shot range now, none?
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Post by banana on Dec 21, 2017 11:47:27 GMT -5
Also fg ttk vs stg?
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Post by qupie on Dec 21, 2017 12:09:27 GMT -5
Was there a new update?
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Post by banana on Dec 21, 2017 12:17:37 GMT -5
check Michael Condrey's twitter
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