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Post by Marvel4 on Feb 9, 2013 9:54:01 GMT -5
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toysrme
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Post by toysrme on Feb 9, 2013 9:55:35 GMT -5
ive made this point in other forums every time i've ever seen that POS website brought up.
its no more useful for actual information than the bars in the pictures. frankly they're equally as accurate.
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Post by Dumien on Feb 9, 2013 11:47:25 GMT -5
In specifics Crazysam and CoD4 are hardheads that don't listen to reason.
I believe Sam just got his adminship and was itching to use his shiny new hammer.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Feb 9, 2013 12:02:14 GMT -5
I stopped posting there the moment a mod disabled a comments section after posting a remark reminiscent of 4chan green speak, so as to deter any argument I'd have made against him for something I'd care less to remember of.
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Post by Amirror on Feb 9, 2013 12:03:56 GMT -5
It's not even a Wiki anymore, it's just a misleading COD stat site. It's even more inaccurate than the in-game stat bars. That's how bad they are. Now I'm surprised they haven't been taken down for misleading info. They all get butthurt and like to spam the pussyhammer when you disagree with them in any way or show them you are right. EVEN when you're right.
Marvel4 will become famous one day, and that site will crumble and fall for their lazy work.
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Post by mmacola on Feb 9, 2013 13:24:14 GMT -5
Marvel4 for new Den (when talking about CoD and CoD only, Den is the best at everything else (including in bed according to Mousey))
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danoski666
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Post by danoski666 on Feb 9, 2013 16:30:58 GMT -5
Juicy gossip, me eyes see?
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Post by KingVaroon on Feb 9, 2013 17:32:31 GMT -5
including in bed according to Mousey I wonder if Den just stopped posting around here from fear of landing in jail
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Post by Robospy on Feb 9, 2013 17:45:43 GMT -5
You must get really unlucky marvel. I anonymously edited the ACOG Scope article once to include that in BO2 is doesn't increase recoil or reduce ADS time and that you can hold breath on snipers with it and these changes were never disputed.
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Post by KingVaroon on Feb 9, 2013 18:08:56 GMT -5
I think the cunt holes over at cod wiki are well aware of who marvel4 is and subconsciously feel inferior to him, which is why only his claim was disputed. He provided them undeniable proof and they denied it. That speaks volumes.
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Post by APOCALYPSE on Feb 9, 2013 18:16:26 GMT -5
Doesn't deny the fact that they denied undeniable proof.
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Post by Dumien on Feb 9, 2013 18:20:12 GMT -5
Objection!
Take That!
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Post by jaedrik on Feb 10, 2013 0:19:37 GMT -5
Thank you for existing, Marvel.
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Post by APOCALYPSE on Feb 10, 2013 0:58:17 GMT -5
YOU SHALL BE AVENGED!!!!!! Seriously though, I lost all hope when I got into an argument with a couple on them on weather the EXE needed a buff. This culminated in one of them saying "The exeggcutioner was fine if you had aim!" I'll probably look for that little spat so everyone could laugh at the stupidity.
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danoski666
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Post by danoski666 on Feb 10, 2013 9:46:50 GMT -5
YOU SHALL BE AVENGED!!!!!! Seriously though, I lost all hope when I got into an argument with a couple on them on weather the EXE needed a buff. This culminated in one of them saying "The exeggcutioner was fine if you had aim!" I'll probably look for that little spat so everyone could laugh at the stupidity. The Executioner was fine if you had aim... aimbot, that is.
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Post by Will on Feb 10, 2013 13:46:39 GMT -5
CODWiki is cool for looking at pictures of guns and stuff if you want to fap. But if you want reliable stats, DenKirson and Symthic (the site moreso than the forums) are the places to be.
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Post by Will on Feb 10, 2013 15:38:05 GMT -5
yeah but marvel helped symthic anyway... Hence the reliability of the information You can't dispute raw game files, even with 1000 wall tests.
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Post by jaedrik on Feb 10, 2013 16:39:19 GMT -5
I'm watching the wiki page, a lot of people are fighting back against Crazy jerkface, pointing out his lack of faith, is that you guys?
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Post by jaedrik on Feb 10, 2013 16:52:30 GMT -5
Okay, wait a second, they have a forums, and talk/discussion pages, look at this gem I found on grip: (cur | prev) 06:59, February 10, 2013 Wiffle357 (Talk | contribs) . . (8,804 bytes) (-9) . . (No need for "roughly" when it's right in the game files.) (undo) (cur | prev) 21:29, February 9, 2013 Flaysian (Talk | contribs) m . . (8,813 bytes) (+299) . . (→Call of Duty: Black Ops II: +BO2 function, courtesy of Drift0r) (undo) Drift0r, I absolutely love you, you're awesome, and I know you have absolutely no control over the peoples of the internet, and I know you've mentioned several times where you get the data from, so this would not so much be directed at you, it would be directed at anyone who edits or cites on that site, as well, look at this doo-doo. LOOK at that doo-doo, "No need for "roughly" when it's right in the game files. -9. MINUS 9, how the HELL can people downvote the discussion of semantics, especially when pertaining to one of the most touchy parts of the game: stats?
So, someone (totally not me because I'm a lazy face) should compile a list of remembered transgressions and fallacies that have been put on the wiki throughout the years, then freakin' make a forum post or some doo-doo or make a huge deal in the talk page and give this long-butt-post proving how unreliable it is, and how everyone needs to cool their heads and check their data and methodologies once, twice, thrice before being a hot-head and getting all uppitty.
Edit: And further to that it should be in the least brazen and impudent terms, the poster should not be crass or overbearing. They should be simple, to the point, straightforward, STOIC, then, stern when appealing to the nobler values that call any further readers of that post in to action. People tend not to have faith in your data or arguments, no matter how logical or cold, if there is not an appeal to emotion, but rather in those cases they are left just as the argument, cold and uncaring. And negative emotional appeal makes people listen even less, and backfire in your face.
I'm sure you who are brazen and crass when making detailed posts know who you are.
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Post by Robospy on Feb 11, 2013 0:43:21 GMT -5
I thought the "-9", "+238" etc were the numbers of words added
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Post by ayyyyy on Feb 11, 2013 8:08:34 GMT -5
denkirson marvel4 wiki time!
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Post by -3055- on Feb 11, 2013 10:01:01 GMT -5
The smr should have a 90-49 damage model. Too bad activision absolutely hates semi-autos.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Feb 11, 2013 10:09:51 GMT -5
lol Crazy Sam. We used to friends actually back when I was on the Wiki.
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Post by jaedrik on Feb 12, 2013 12:13:52 GMT -5
I thought the "-9", "+238" etc were the numbers of words added ohlolneverminditsaboutbitsandstuffyou'reright.
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Post by honeybunch on Feb 13, 2013 20:20:19 GMT -5
So apparently both the SMR damage and the Mk48 reload times are now correct on the COD wiki, Crazy Sam acknowledges he was wrong, and I made a bit of a fool of myself by bringing the issue up on the Mk48 talk page without knowing that.
How many similarly bad moderators are there on that wiki? Could we just keep doing stuff like this until we convince all of them that Marvel's information is actually solid?
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Post by mmacola on Feb 15, 2013 17:30:36 GMT -5
Ha it as me who changed it to 8, suck it Marvel
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Post by Will on Feb 15, 2013 21:00:53 GMT -5
Ha it as me who changed it to 8, suck it Marvel You changed it on the table over on the right, after I changed it in the main body text Neither of our edits have been removed yet. Yay us!
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Post by APOCALYPSE on May 4, 2013 16:49:31 GMT -5
I got the Assault shield damage up to 70 from 50. Yeah me?
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Post by mw2baller on May 6, 2013 0:36:17 GMT -5
The G36C has the same damage as the M4 Carbine; however, its handling is very different. Choosing the G36C or the M4 Carbine is a matter of personal taste as both weapons have their pros and cons. The G36C has a notably smaller idle sway, a lower rate of fire, arguably worse iron sights, and more recoil than that of the M4 Carbine.
Most players choose Stopping Power as their Tier 2 perk, but Double Tap is equally if not more effective: double Tap only slightly increases the amount of visible recoil when aiming down sights, and allows for a much greater killing speed. Bandolier can make up for the faster ammunition depletion, and Steady Aim allows the G36C to perform better at close quarters. Along with a Suppressor, the G36C becomes a deadly close range stealth weapon able to perform well at medium and even long range.
This is why I stopped using that site before mw2.
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Post by Wonder Showzen on May 7, 2013 20:18:20 GMT -5
Thank you for existing, Marvel. ^This. Thanks for all your hard work.
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