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Post by turboRush on Jan 3, 2012 18:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by mmacola on Jan 3, 2012 20:17:16 GMT -5
The most attachment friendly weapon is the ACR; the G36C is the best looking weapon, good reload animation, great weapon stats. Easy to use.
All of this is my opinion.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Jan 3, 2012 20:35:13 GMT -5
The most attachment friendly weapon is the ACR; the G36C is the best looking weapon, good reload animation, great weapon stats. Easy to use. All of this is my opinion. +1 regarding ACR customization. Good iron sight = sight attachment is not absolutely necessary manageable kick = flexibility in proficiency selection Long effective 3HK range = good w/silencer Issue with G36C is the iron sight is a bit distracting.
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Post by exaltedvanguard on Jan 3, 2012 22:43:27 GMT -5
G36C irons take quite a bit of getting used to. Other than that, it really is an amazing weapon. In my books, far better than the ACR due to predictable recoil and faster kill times.
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Post by Evan950 on Jan 4, 2012 0:29:04 GMT -5
g36c probabaly has the worst iron-sights :/ acr is more attachment friendly, but the g36c is a really good gun
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Post by wcparker on Jan 4, 2012 0:41:09 GMT -5
I see the tradeoff between ACR and G36 as one of range vs. ROF I would agree that the ACR has better irons, but I don't quite understand why everyone has such a problem with the ones on the G36. Don't seem much different to me from SCAR irons. Perfect vertical recoil makes it the pro choice (max control), and the ROF advantage is more important for COD maps than a bit of range. It's also one of the best ARs to silence thanks to the high rate of fire and 4-hit max range kill. The only ARs that give it competition in my book are the M14 and the Type95, which are obviously totally different weapons.
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Post by turboRush on Jan 4, 2012 3:37:46 GMT -5
I really dislike the ACR, I don't find it better than the g36c.
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Post by exaltedvanguard on Jan 4, 2012 13:01:32 GMT -5
I actually find the range on the ACR and G36C to be equal. With my Silenced Kick G36C, I was in the southern raised hallway on Bakaara, killing people in the building to the north, past the chopper. You never really fight anyone at longer range than that on these maps anyway. I find the unidirectional recoil to much much more important to accuracy than having a slightly smaller magnitude of recoil
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Post by asasa on Jan 4, 2012 14:32:09 GMT -5
turbo, how is your spm so low???
900k score in 162 hours?
am i seeing something wrong?
i have 1.7mil in 57hrs
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Post by noclass on Jan 5, 2012 16:21:10 GMT -5
Im torn on this one. I prefer the ACR by far but cannot ignore the G36's power silenced. I got an MOAB with it without really trying for it..in a dom on dust... It was a nice surprise as i was working on getting the gold skin with OMA.
The IS are so horrible though. It just takes up way too much space. RDS is a must in my case.
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Post by turboRush on Jan 5, 2012 20:11:31 GMT -5
turbo, how is your spm so low??? 900k score in 162 hours? am i seeing something wrong? i have 1.7mil in 57hrs Reset all stats in the prestige shop.
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Post by asasa on Jan 6, 2012 0:18:47 GMT -5
doh that explains it!
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Jan 6, 2012 1:45:39 GMT -5
In my honest opinion this the best gone Maybe. There are several guns, however, that I find to be rather more effective.
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Post by psijaka on Jan 6, 2012 18:35:19 GMT -5
I'm not finding the irons too bad. But it is the recoil that makes the G36 really stand out; a lot of second shots land exactly on target, making the gun particularly deadly when burst fired.
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Post by turboRush on Jan 6, 2012 18:37:08 GMT -5
I'm not finding the irons too bad. But it is the recoil that makes the G36 really stand out; a lot of second shots land exactly on target, making the gun particularly deadly when burst fired. And that is exactly how I use this gun, burst firing is extremely deadly and that's honestly the only way this guy should be played if you want the most out of it and get what the g36c is all about.
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Post by asasa on Jan 6, 2012 22:56:26 GMT -5
I tried using it today, again, and just cant see the purpose of the weapon. While the % re-centered values are definitely neat, I feel that the ACR would be more accurate up to medium ranges without kick, and with kick better than a kick G36C at long ranges.
And even if the recoil was a tie, and the firerate was in the G36C's favor ever so slightly... the reloads are killer. I use scavenger, and it seems like a game breaker -- at least for me.
So tell me, why would you want this over the highly comparable ACR?
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Jan 6, 2012 23:27:03 GMT -5
So tell me, why would you want this over the highly comparable ACR? Same reason that people preferred the FAMAS over the AUG.
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Post by turboRush on Jan 6, 2012 23:34:22 GMT -5
I tried using it today, again, and just cant see the purpose of the weapon. While the % re-centered values are definitely neat, I feel that the ACR would be more accurate up to medium ranges without kick, and with kick better than a kick G36C at long ranges. And even if the recoil was a tie, and the firerate was in the G36C's favor ever so slightly... the reloads are killer. I use scavenger, and it seems like a game breaker -- at least for me. So tell me, why would you want this over the highly comparable ACR? Burst firing with its extremely fast 1600 center-speed with kick it should be an extremely accurate burst fire weapon and kills from long ranges aswell as close with its fast rate of fire if trigger is hard pressed. ACR is a slight left and right recoil and the G36C recoil is up and upwards recoil is very important when burst firing.
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Post by asasa on Jan 7, 2012 0:14:44 GMT -5
Disgruntled Jigglypuff Famas: Predictable recoil, allows better players to do better In this case, the ACR is the one with predictable recoil. A 30-35 up kick and light L/R wave turboRush: i see what you mean in regards of the recentering, but the acr kicks so little in the first place that you can full auto it at nearly any range i dont mean to sound argumentative. i really want to find a reason to use an AR instead of the ACR.
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Post by joe8beast on Jan 7, 2012 4:32:25 GMT -5
i for some reason cannot stand the ACR in this game, its burst fire is way less accurate than i expect it to be, the SCARL, the CM901 and the G36c are all way more reliable burst fire wise, its my next Gold AR after i finish up my last CM90, so i might have to learn to love it
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Post by shaktazuki on Jan 8, 2012 0:10:16 GMT -5
As a result of this thread, I went back to the G36C + Kick and have somewhat to say. It is, in my useage just now, superior to the ACR at range because more shots hit on target, and the irons are actually really good. Plus, it kind of resembles a UMP45, which is... interesting.
I found that the G36C was super effective silenced, but if silenced required Scavenger Pro, for the mags, which for me means running specialist. So I did, and it seemed to go really bloody well.
Suffice it to say it was actually the most pleasant AR experience I've had in a while. It's more forgiving than the T95. The G36C sucks when hipfired so keep them at range.
It's strictly a mid/long range weapon. Even ADS you will lose up close.
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Post by turboRush on Jan 8, 2012 8:02:17 GMT -5
Disgruntled Jigglypuff Famas: Predictable recoil, allows better players to do better In this case, the ACR is the one with predictable recoil. A 30-35 up kick and light L/R wave turboRush: i see what you mean in regards of the recentering, but the acr kicks so little in the first place that you can full auto it at nearly any range i dont mean to sound argumentative. i really want to find a reason to use an AR instead of the ACR. Try it with silence + kick and pop shot and don't full auto the gun at a distance this gun out performs ACR all the way.
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Post by exaltedvanguard on Jan 8, 2012 11:23:50 GMT -5
shaktazukiIt has the fastest kill time of any AR...? It should be winning upclose. That said, I run stalker and am always ADS anyway, so that probably makes a big difference.
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Post by shaktazuki on Jan 8, 2012 12:44:39 GMT -5
I would get 2 or 3 hitmarkers up close, ADSed, before getting stabbed or riddled with SMG holes, so YMMV.
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Post by asasa on Jan 8, 2012 23:54:08 GMT -5
well up to fall, nearly gold camo on G36C.
its definitely a good weapon
the one thing that sucks is that you need kick to full auto it. burst fire its about the same with or without kick, but full auto... dayum.
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Post by turboRush on Jan 9, 2012 1:55:13 GMT -5
well up to fall, nearly gold camo on G36C. its definitely a good weapon the one thing that sucks is that you need kick to full auto it. burst fire its about the same with or without kick, but full auto... dayum. Are you hitting them chest and letting the gun ride up? I easily get kills that lead to headshots that way if i'm full auto'ing the gun.
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Post by wwaa on Jan 9, 2012 8:22:13 GMT -5
My favourite config: G36C + Red Dot (Reticle:Omega) + Silencer (& Scav, Assassin, Marksman)
That horizontal line at the bottom of Omega really helps to controll your bursts.
The iron sights - I find them not obstructive, but due to the recoil pattern and iron sights shape it is harder to determine where the bullets land in mid-long range. Lack of horizontal line.
@ asasa > the one thing that sucks is that you need kick to full auto it
Why do you want to full auto a gun that kills in 0.15 sec ? ... Full auto is always a waste of ammo.
For burst firing G36C is more friendly than ACR due to the higher ROF, as bursts can be shorter. With ACR I tend to press fire button longer, waste ammo, waste time …
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Post by asasa on Jan 9, 2012 16:08:12 GMT -5
@turbo: yeah, but sometimes it goes over their head wwaa: why... wouldnt i? that's like saying why use RF on an SMG.. maybe you think i am talking of long ranges. i am not. i am saying in CQC, it often goes way above players heads. it's not all that big of an issue but id rather not have to deal with that, you know?
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Post by wwaa on Jan 9, 2012 16:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by turboRush on Jan 10, 2012 11:46:39 GMT -5
@turbo: yeah, but sometimes it goes over their head wwaa: why... wouldnt i? that's like saying why use RF on an SMG.. maybe you think i am talking of long ranges. i am not. i am saying in CQC, it often goes way above players heads. it's not all that big of an issue but id rather not have to deal with that, you know? Rarely but it's main purpose and I can't stress this enough is pop shotting. Updated the OP with psijaka's image plots & Image banner with the G36C edited.
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