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Post by KenDirson on Feb 22, 2012 16:09:08 GMT -5
A new post from today:
They're nerfing akimbo. Again. Along with considering buffing LMGs and the Draggy (see my other thread).
I love Infinity Ward right now.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Feb 22, 2012 16:13:54 GMT -5
At least they are taking community's input and trying to continuously improve. Since they are not afraid of making multiple changes in the same area (say Akimbo), there is hope that the desired balance will be achieved over time. Relying on QA alone for weapon balance is an impossible task. Changes must be put in "wild" to really know how effective they are.
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Post by slowriot on Feb 22, 2012 16:14:50 GMT -5
this is good news! thanks for the heads up
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Post by Megaqwerty on Feb 22, 2012 16:20:56 GMT -5
Good riddance. They need the shit nerfed out of them. And not just the akimbos. Even the singles.
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Post by sh58 on Feb 22, 2012 16:25:33 GMT -5
they test?
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Post by brutalonslaught on Feb 22, 2012 16:35:31 GMT -5
Single MPs are OP now? Good god, if you are getting killed by them then my dog would probably kill you rocking a Deagle.
Anyway, if it's like their last nerf the akimbos will become one hit kill at all ranges with no recoil.
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Post by slowriot on Feb 22, 2012 16:42:46 GMT -5
maybe if you're dog was a chinese pug, but i doubt any other dog has the raw skill or good looks to kill anything with a Deagle. the mp9 is extremely deadly at any range. even with a silencer you can take out 4 UAVS with Blind Eyes.
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Post by brutalonslaught on Feb 22, 2012 16:46:40 GMT -5
He is a pug. I'm not sure I could get him using the deagle though, he only Qui ckscopes the little doo-doo
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Feb 22, 2012 16:46:44 GMT -5
I sure wish they would stop patching this game. They act all surprised that a balanced metagame hasn't developed when they artificially change it every WEEK.
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Post by slowriot on Feb 22, 2012 16:48:30 GMT -5
pugs>all other dogs/animals/humans.
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Post by seanbateman on Feb 22, 2012 16:53:30 GMT -5
Maybe MW3 will finally be playable by the time BO2 comes out.
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Post by 8bitasplode on Feb 22, 2012 17:03:07 GMT -5
Good riddance. They need the doo-doo nerfed out of them. And not just the akimbos. Even the singles. Not just the FMG9s either. The machine pistols in general are just too good to be secondaries. This isn't black ops where the snipers and SMG suck and the only thing that can reliably take out air support is a launcher. Maybe MW3 will finally be playable by the time BO2 comes out. If Vahn's post are anything to go by then it's possible that MW3's LMGs become more usable than the BO2 LMGs.
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Post by Marvel4 on Feb 22, 2012 17:09:51 GMT -5
I bet it will be a bullshit nerf again. They should just make the hipspread like in Black Ops.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Feb 22, 2012 17:15:40 GMT -5
Black Ops 2: LMGs deal 50 damage per shot at all ranges. To the user of said LMG. Single MPs are OP now? Good god, if you are getting killed by them then my dog would probably kill you rocking a Deagle. The MP9 outclasses half the SMGs.
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Post by brutalonslaught on Feb 22, 2012 17:16:50 GMT -5
pugs>all other dogs/animals/humans. This is him playing: The MP9 outclasses half the SMGs. It's better than all of them at mid/long range but worse than all of them at short range. But then at mid/long range it is dominated by ARs.
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Post by shaktazuki on Feb 22, 2012 17:17:35 GMT -5
Like a boss.
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Post by revolution on Feb 22, 2012 17:35:06 GMT -5
sounds great, cant wait to make a new lmg class
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Post by Zero IX on Feb 22, 2012 17:41:12 GMT -5
MW3: a semi-polished turd. Don't worry; IW will continue to polish... until this coming November.
I have no faith in IW's ability to nerf the Akimbo in a meaningful way based on the fact that every weapon-balancing patch they've released thus far has been ineffectual.
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Post by brutalonslaught on Feb 22, 2012 17:43:28 GMT -5
Really? Shotgun patch was pretty effective and the single FMG is now practically impossible to kill with at distances > 1m
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Post by Zero IX on Feb 22, 2012 17:47:35 GMT -5
Shotgun patch either nerfed the shotguns or kept them the same as they were when the ExMags glitch was in effect. That's not effective in my eyes in the slightest.
When was a non-Akimbo FMG9 ever at any point an issue...?
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Post by slowriot on Feb 22, 2012 17:49:55 GMT -5
hahahah! quickscoping pug WATCH OUT! awesome.
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Post by brutalonslaught on Feb 22, 2012 17:55:06 GMT -5
Non akimbo FMG was decent to start with, high ROF and little recoil.
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Post by Zero IX on Feb 22, 2012 17:58:15 GMT -5
Operative word is "decent."
Then again, it's pretty in-character for IW's patch to affect the single FMG more so than the akimbo version which spurred the patch in the first place. >_>
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Post by brutalonslaught on Feb 22, 2012 18:01:59 GMT -5
Yeah, that's pretty standard for IW. At least it made getting to akimbo harder...
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Post by Zero IX on Feb 22, 2012 18:07:08 GMT -5
Lol, I suppose.
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Post by duckcall00 on Feb 22, 2012 19:29:50 GMT -5
Akimbo Weapons should not be nerfed as a group. If they do that, the FMG9 will still be the best Akimbo weapon, with the MP9 a close second. They will just be weaker compared to primary weapons.
They need to nerf each Akimbo-compatible weapon individually, and actually buff some. This is how I would do it: FMG9 and MP9- I don't care too much. Just make it shit. Skorpian- Return it to it's pre-nerf glory, maybe with a damage boost to grant a 2-hit-kill at close range. G18 and Deagle- Recoil decrease All other hangduns- Triple ammo in reserve.
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Post by Marvel4 on Feb 22, 2012 19:36:43 GMT -5
Skorpian- Return it to it's pre-nerf glory, maybe with a damage boost to grant a 2-hit-kill at close range. G18 and Deagle- Recoil decrease All other hangduns- Triple ammo in reserve. Please not, just nerf the shit out of all Akimbo MPs. I agree with buffing the handguns.
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Post by asasa on Feb 22, 2012 20:37:22 GMT -5
Akimbo Weapons should not be nerfed as a group. If they do that, the FMG9 will still be the best Akimbo weapon, with the MP9 a close second. They will just be weaker compared to primary weapons. They need to nerf each Akimbo-compatible weapon individually, and actually buff some. This is how I would do it: FMG9 and MP9- I don't care too much. Just make it doo-doo. Skorpian- Return it to it's pre-nerf glory, maybe with a damage boost to grant a 2-hit-kill at close range. G18 and Deagle- Recoil decrease All other hangduns- Triple ammo in reserve. What the hell is this? "Lets nerf the FMG9 and MP9, but buff the shit out of the similarly overpowered Skorpion and G18"
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Post by shatt3r on Feb 22, 2012 20:39:35 GMT -5
agreed.... Less akimbo is better. And they do need to be weaker compared to primary weapons. I don't really care whichever gun is the best in its class As it is every class of weapons is usually dominated by about 2 guns anyway. SMG: MP7, PP90m1, AR: ACR, T95 etc... Akimbos overall need to be nerfed.
Have to agree with brutalonslaught about their "nerfs" I only pray to god they get the programming right. I'm no programmer, but having the damn akimbo FMG9s have a built in ROF increase at launch, then while intending to nerf it they INCREASE its ROF, and after almost a month of living with that shitty buffed FMG9 fest they try to nerf it to get a net 15-20% ROF deacrease from the single FMG9s, but as it stands akimbo FMG9s still fire at the same rate as a singular FMG9 on PC. So after 3 and a half months and rounds of patches, PC has only gotten akimbo FMGs to what they were intened to be at launch? wth man, and do they even test thier patches before it goes out? come on ithe ROF increase was insanely stupid, 1 game of testing would have been enough to tell you something was wrong. did they not even time it with a stop watch? i found the clip finished so much faster than even with the inaccuracy of using my iPhone as a stopwatch i could tell it was faster. Just 2 min of testing.
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Post by 8bitasplode on Feb 22, 2012 22:22:20 GMT -5
How about just decreasing the raise and drop time on the handguns, increasing the reserve ammo on the deagle and, and nerfing the shit out of machine pistols until snipers start considering overkill useful.
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